I am also sorry for the double posts.

I am on safari. But I think sometimes I just double tap by mistake. My hands are not always steady.

Steven and I have been together since 1984.
Together we went through losing my son, a major devastating flood, the loss of our dear Grandmothers, the murder of his brother and many other hard times.
Then I became very ill and was unable to work.
He became abusive, killed my cat and cheated on me.
He told terrible lies about me to all my friends and those who believed his lies I "unfriended".
Which is why I have no friends any longer.
I would have left but I was/am unable to work due to my medical condition and by moving out I would have been homeless.
So it has been a lot like that movie "War Of The Roses" where we both continue to live in the house separately while openly loathing each other.
I do not cook for him or do his laundry or ever even touch him.
Since he cheated I have considered him unclean, disgusting and contaminated with all manner of diseases.
It has been well over twenty years and now it's just a wait and see as to who dies first.
With no medical insurance or medical care, I really hope it's me. 😀

Tatoulia, it sounds like you hoard the way my grandmother did. She had a huge, beautiful house, and it was full! Everything in it was nice and clean and orderly, and she knew exactly where everything was. Near the end we had to move newspapers, magazines, and catalogues off of chairs and tables when we visited, but she always let the cleaning lady throw them out now and then, so it never got to be a huge problem.

When she died it took a year to empty the house. First, my mom and uncle and aunt took the things they wanted. Then the grandkids came and took the things they wanted. Then the great grandkids. 14 people (and spouses). My cousin filled a uhaul van twice. I filled a pod. My mom redid her entire dining room.

two antique dealers came through the house - one who specialized in toys and one general. The toy guy came back 4 times because we kept finding stuff he thought sounded interesting.

Things were donated and sent off to distant relatives and old friends. Then there was a two day estate auction. At the end of the auction, the auctioneer left with a truck load of items to sell at other auctions he holds regularly with specialized themes.

Then began the sorting of "where can we donate this, might as well keep this, I guess this is trash."
We did put her sofa at the curb. Someone took it within hours.

When "normal" people hear the story, they say how awful, and they never want to burden their children like that. But my mom said it was a gift. She and my grandmother were incredibly close and she feels like having that year when she got to keep going to gram's house and be surrounded by her things and so many memories helped her work through her grief. The actually work kept her busy and the letting go was slow and tangible. She thinks if the estate had been settled and disposed of quickly she would have collapsed.

Anyway, about your microwave and piece of furniture - can you simply remove the microwave and put the items directly on the surface below it? Do you need the piece of furniture because it is serving a purpose? How do you feel about living with the empty space for a while?

Quick drive by before work.

Great job SubC/-I'll write more later! Keep up the good work. Remember to drink water, eat right and take breaks. It's hard yet you are strong!

Microwave is a hazard I'm afraid--I've had it for 25 years and it was used when I got it (yikes). There are people who come around looking for scrap metal and I'm sure this will get picked up. It is not like me to throw away something useable but this is really terrible. If no one picks it up for scrap, and the city picks up, then the city has a robust recycle program and it will go there.

Will write more later!

Good Morning Everyone 🙂

Hi Porter 🙂
The new place sounds GREAT!
Keep an eye out for one of those portable full size dish washers.
You just roll them over and hook them to the sink, wash dishes & then roll them back out of the way.
They do as good a job as built ins.
Since the basement is damp...
Keep the storage bins away from the walls a few inches and leave space between them for dry air to circulate.

Hi CriticalMass 🙂
Hi Anonymoniker 🙂

It's COLD today.
Snowing in Carson City! 😮
Had plans to water and pull a few weeds today but my plans have changed.
Will now straighten up my closet and dresser drawers.
Everything is where it goes but could be tidier, less just tossed in.

Thank you for the lovely story, SubC. I enjoyed it immensely. All of it.

I think I will get rid of microwave this week. It is time. And I'll see what happens to the stuff on top. Maybe 20% could move out?!?

After that, I'll take a deep breath and see about that piece of furniture.

I'll check the trash rules on microwaves now.

Each day I postpone signing the lease I save $22.46 .
I have to prorate the following month.
So my expenses are application fee , first month , and matching deposit.
Truck rental + insurance.
Then 30 later the prorated rent for partial month.
Then on July 1st 1 full month.

The deal with my wife has always been I pay for rent, she pays for utilities. We pay for our own cars and gasoline.

So I'm just barely squeaking by.

The next house will be like this.

All electric.
Kitchen is on first level has portable dishwasher, and 6x3 butcher block table and 1 long wall of cabinets and drawers with counter/splashback. Double sink under windows and ceiling fan near sink. Large panty.

also on first floor, only bath , full bathroom...
1 bedroom, living room , dinning room. A medium porch with outside electrical outlet.

Basement , wide stairs , washer and dryer hook up,
Two room 6 foot height, IM 5'9. THE non laundry room for clutter in totes and is 12x15 1 extra electrical outlet for extra freezer. Heating and AC. Ceiling fans in every room.

The upstairs is 3 small rooms.
No hallway. Smallest room only big enough for an air matress.
Second largest room only big enough for a queen size bed. With TV mounted on wall.
Master bedroom will be used as common area ,
But will have a 60 inch TV , two drum sets electronic and percussion. A DJ table on an 8' counter with room for storage. And 1 large piece of sectional sofa to lounge on. So daughter and I will call it the lounge. Her belongings will kept in the lounge, her clothes In her bed room closet.

The outside is small. A small front yard and a small side yard. I have a lawnmower, and lawn equipment , not big enough for a large garden to many large trees to grow very much.

Live 2 miles from high school. 3 miles from major university.
20 miles from work.
Half mile from large market.
1 mile from large mall.
Ten minutes from Walmart.
3 minutes from hospitals
Half mile from public pool next to police station .
And half mile from 9 nation fast food chains.
Half mile from bad station.

As I'm gear up to be a uber driver. I live 1 mile from downtown bars. I feel I can supplement enough income to pay off the car in two years. But more importantly, separate my vehicle expenses from my full time job Income.

I'm trying set up so that I can pay all bills by myself. And when my wife passes, I'll not have need for roommates. But until social Security benefits apply to my daughter for the death of one of her parents. I'll be self sufficient, and will simply apply the social security towards her education fund. As well as a rainy day account, with heavy insurances.

I'm downgrading her smart phone to a non data plan phone. Forcing her to use broadband Wi-Fi.
And DD and I don't watch enough TV to need to pay for it. As long as we have Netflix and internet vids. There's plenty of free local TV and radio also. So my housing expenses are 1/2 my income.
And my car half of what's left. Leaves me $200 of disposable income.
If I drive for uber I'll be able to bump up to $1,000 a month.

But I also have 7% gross deducted into 401k and my employer matches 3% so it equals about $2000 a year. I have the 401K set up for education benefits. I estimate if I keep working for eight years it will be enough to pay for most of her education . And the what I dont pay for , she'll get from her mothers insurance.

I'm also looking for the goal to buy out the house I'm renting In Four years. And pay it off in 5 years. So it can be cheap housing for my daughter.
I sell it only to her for what I paid for it. After she graduates and after her education is paid in full.

Then if I'm still able I'll buy the the boat I want to live out the rest of days.

Big enough to charter , so I can help DD pay off any loan she may have on the house.
She can also rent it out. To help pay it off.

Well that's my plan. It's not the a perfect or wealthy plan. But if it's a 4 bedroom house that isn't filled with clutter it will feel like a castle to me.

Hello HDD--welcome! Glad you are joining us! We post here regularly to discuss our challenges, our victories and everything else!

Today I'm doing laundry and washing my down jacket so I can donate it. I've already taken my boots to the donation center. Trying to get rid of as much as I can. I've set a goal to get rid of 20% of possessions before end of May!

All suggestions gladly accepted!

Before I started posting on this message board.
I lived in a typical hoard that left little space for entertaining guests or much room more than the space we slept.
It had been purged several times, and posting to this site made feel like I was presently trying to purge. I had some serious reason to do so.
And now I'm moving again with most of the useless parts of the hoarding already purged. I tend to get to serious for too long and burn out.
The suggestion to do something fun or play with my crafts didn't seen like it would make a difference in the hoard or become counter productive.
But I tried , starting working on model homes as my craft. I mean some people are into baseball cards , sport statistics, cars, martial arts, sewing, reading. For me it's quirky. More like a city planner, but less than that.
There is a group that designoven and grade fire.
There goal is to create campfire oven that can transfer the heat with the smallest amount of wood sticks. So that poor people's won't burn the Forrest's down just for cooking and heating .

I'm along a similar vein. What is cheapest way to live a robust life. To build your own mansion, and now unexpectedly how to commute to and from employment. I assume it's where we spend 65% of our lives . At home and on the way to work.
So it's the energy consumption that I'm actually focused on as my creative outlet. I do day dream about it all quite alot. But the creative outlet is a designated time . Usually for me is when everyone is still asleep, much like a model train engineer that goes down Into a basement. In their own private world. I tend to be easily upset, and yell. So I do recognize a need for an adult time out. Either before it starts or when it is occurring. I dont think we'll when upset , and calming down I listen better.

For a long time years and years , I was not spending much time on my creative outlet.
So I wasn't enjoying my time out time.

I consider coming here and writing a post. A form of this time out process. Rather than yelling or venting. To my spouse , I avoid the discord , and write it out , my strategy has been finding the path to do everything myself.

So I feel my house design is in the direction of cheap homeowner ship. That's upgradeable.
If a couple spends 8 hours during the week and 8 hours during the weekend for 16 hours each. 32 man hours a week. In ten years they build a mansion. That is energy efficient and self powered., but has utility hook up if needed.

Then I've also starting to see the implementation of hydrogen harvesting, and how it could power a small bike. Morbid us understand the energy needed to pedal a bike. It's mostly for going up hill. Where going along flats isn't as difficult.
I looked up hydrogen bicycles and found that we can with current technology ride pedal less bicycles for ten miles a day from hydrogen we all produce. Everyday.

Further I've discovered other the new FYI g technologies that could make these ultralite flying g bicycles powerfully enough to overcome the wind and fly rather than walk or ride. .
I estimate that that there is enough disposable hydrogen from non flying or biking humans that there would be plenty enough .
The emphasis on hydrogen being that cheap to harvest and doesn't need vast networks to transport it. In fact if we sold all of our hydrogen we as human create ,from the time we're babies to time were ready to start building our home. We could pay for home long before we start to build it.

While fossil fuels won't go away.
I think of fossil fuels this way.
You've gotten ten thousand candles , it's not a good idea to light them all at once. A little at time, is much better.

Friday morning while I was daydreaming with a thought experiment. I had Eureka moment.
I figured it out.
We no longer need gasoline powered automobiles to commute us 30 miles to work.

A hybrid of bicycle and flying cycle.

I'm now taking the thoughts into a basement and working on it. .
It's of those thing that makes perfect sense ,but not until you see it with your own two eyes. An you think. Well of course.

This idea is so hard for me to ignore as just a random. This idea has so much potential that I must try it. The second obstacle it would face would be how it is copied. If it is marketed as a gasoline powered flying vehicle then it's potential will be as impactful as dynamite In The theaters of war.
Yes I could easily make it gasoline powered , and fear other may create gasoline powered flying cars very soon. My concept isn't about a flying muscle car. As great as that sounds.

My creative outlet has turned from the rammed earth /foam core home. To the hydrogen fueled flying bicycle. Takes off vertically, fly's like a velocopter , lands like an airplane. Fits in a lane of traffic. Parks in parking spot. Is cheap as pee to refuel.

It's just one alternative. Just like thorium lftr.
These are solutions to climate changes from both ends. From the central power station. To the fuels for vehicles a home. 85%. Green house gas comes from home heating and vehicles exhaust.

I find it interesting enough to , keep some of the ideas on my phone. And is a cool to me way to spend a time out. As long as I keep time outs to small five minute breaks , just to calm down.

Moving almost all my things to storage today.

Hi Everyone 🙂

Hi Porter 🙂
At 13 a girl should be allowed to decorate her own room her own way.
Within reason, nothing too damaging to the structure. 😉
I believe that everybody should have a room all their own to set up to please no one but them.

Hi Everybody! 😀

Did almost diddily-squat today.
Swished the toilet bowl.
Sorta raked and swept by the front porch.
Washed some dishes.
Then I took a nap.
Just been so tired every day. Need to sleep better at night and not keep waking up off & on all night.

Tillie, I'm sorry your hoarder isn't ready to change. Does he talk about it at all? Please forgive me if I'm prying and ignore if you want.

I recycle as much as possible, although I try to avoid even recyclable plastic. It's the non-recyclable stuff that is really a problem for me. Styrofoam is the worst! Local styrofoam recycling would literally change my life. The first big step in my dehoarding came with easily available paper recycling.

Maybe you could put a piece of screen over the top of your pot so that the poor plants can't get eaten all the way down?

Just being me today.

Thanks for your understand ing.
Co dependent is exactly right. Together were a hoarding home. Years of blaming eachother. And any attempt on my part was met with biting my head off.

Now with so many health services coming and going.
a large hoard pile is unacceptable.

I have to insist on being the only one to organize it. She's just throwing fits , but I'm not letting fits make it OK to openly hoard again . Thursday's I'm just digging in and inventory, as photo the items. Lable the tubs.. other wise it'll make great places for mice to hide and nest.

I know I may sound like all work and no play. But I do feel like playing once it's all cleaned up.

Until it's cleared. I feel constantly overwhelmed.
I finally separated all hoards into individuals.
So I can push for purges one daughter. Or wife.
Usually who is receptive.
Bug if neither are budging then I can push on just one at a time. For a few weeks. Then back off and start in on the other one.

My stuff has been as purged as I can go without just throwing it all out. My long term memories are tied to some of the objects and is very hard to let go a precious to me things. I can touch an object and or smell it. And go back to that time and Place .

OK today for my creative outlet.
I worked on the rammed earth wall machine for about 1/2 hour. I'm lacking In RE hnical so I'm going slow.
I have been inspired by flying cars. It now realize. . Flying cars are impractical. But detachable flying motorbikes I'm completely fascinated. I've so far as to determine they would be best with hydrogen fuel cell for the motor bike. And battery bank for the flying hover frame.

Where the hover frame provides lift. The motor bike can also add propulsion buy spinning forward or aft propellers In Addition to the hover craft.

So this has me realize I need to make a place to this in my model homes.

My example is a commuter that goes from home in the country to the center of a major city.

As urea is processed at home to make hydrogen. And processed into fuel cell. Fly's to the city and lands in a sky zone parking space where it can be locked and recharged . Detaching the motor bike. And going where the rider wants.

Not everyone would want one. But together automobiles and flying motorbikes could make an enormous dent in both Congestion and pollution.
As well as helping any country become less dependent don't on fossils fuels.

The model has to be the cheapest way to get to work. Or it will only be a novelty.

I've gone as far as thinking of merging pedestrian streets. On for smaller commute vehicle's and foot powered vehicle's. But a layer of decking about 20 off the ground. Instead of Pavement. So no flying vehicle could fall on the pedestrians under inside the deck. Would be much cheaper than asphalt.

Well that's what I've been thinking hard on.

Just like many folks like to buy Harley Davidson and other famous bikes. For around 20,000. I can see a niche for flying bikes for 20,000 also.

Most of the Harley's can't be rode I. Winter Conditions, but a flying motorbike. Could be made especially to avoid harsh road Conditions. Especially traversing frozen roads from the country to an inner city. Hydrogen motorbikes. Are silent just like electric cars.

Good Morning Everybody 🙂

Hi Porter 🙂
You have done so much to make moving so much easier for your family.
The actual move shouldn't be too difficult. 😀
Have you found a place to move to?

The reason that play time, crafts & hobbies and just taking the time to enjoy the day is so important is that "life goes on" even when we have a hoard to declutter and a house to clean.
If all we ever do is declutter and clean we get burned out and depressed.
We need some enjoyment, some rest from the daily grind.

Overcast & breezy today.
Need to water the trees sometime this weekend.
Should go grocery shopping for fresh produce.
Only 10:00am so there is plenty of time yet to decide what I want to do. 🙂

This will be Post 1 of 2 - responding to everyone's recent posts. Then I'll make a 2nd post for my own doings of late. It's been a busy time!

Porter -

When you get more time again for your creative outlets -

I still think you ought to write a futuristic novel! 😀 Here are some of my thoughts about that.

I'm afraid I'd be a bad candidate for the flying car thing, though, as I'm agoraphobic with a fear of heights. Unless it could skim along not too far off the ground, but that would seem rather boring and kind of defeat the purpose, wouldn't it? 😉 Don't know about the moving sidewalks - I also have difficulty taking public transportation with my weird complex phobia. But I could see a lot of people liking that. As long as there were various options for those of us with different needs, I could be okay with it. My point is, you'd have a percentage of the population who would be afraid of it; they'd want to keep some of the old ways available. And maybe that'd just be necessary anyway for various reasons - but if the low energy consumption of the newer technology helped, it might all work out.

How would the need for "air traffic control" and the potential for "air rage" akin to road rage be dealt with? What about spying on one's neighbors, no-fly zones over parts of town - see, this is why you need to write a novel! You have all the elements for conflict and resolution built in - just need to flesh it out with characters and a plotline. It'd be a great creative project. But as busy as you are just creating the real thing, and dealing with your everyday situation, maybe there are only so many hours in a day. I just can't resist pointing out novel or movie ideas to folks when I spot them, LOL.

Back to reality for a moment . . . What sucks about any "off the grid" or renewable solutions to our dependency on fossil fuels and so on, is that if the government can't regulate it and the big corporate fatcats can't cash in on it, it ain't gonna happen. I hope someday this changes, but I doubt I'll live to see that day. Sorry for the Debbie Downer moment. I think we still must try to do what we can. Forge bravely ahead!

Tatoulia - "editing" your house - as a writer, I love it! 🙂

Re the chandelier - perhaps you could find one you prefer and show it to your decorator and act really excited about it, say you got a great deal on it and it just "called" to you - and she will get caught up in your enthusiasm and there you go!

Tillie - glad the baby bunny was okay! It's a wild and crazy time in nature. We walk the dog between 10:00-11:00 p.m. and see adult bunnies doing their mating dances, leaping up in the air and dashing about. The dog goes crazy. Squirrels are everywhere, birds... it's sad to see the inevitable fatalities of those who dashed in front of a car, or drew the attention of a cat.

Also hope that by now your shoulder is healed - but still, protect it, as it's going to be vulnerable to reinjury for awhile.

Anony, good to have you pop in again - keep us posted! I think it's okay to work on the part we're having success on - because success breeds success. Eventually the day should come when you have an "Aha!" moment about one area of the interior, and you go and do that, and it leads to more such moments. That's kind of how my storage unit work kicked into high gear. My social worker suggested we work on eliminating the sad, sagging cardboard boxes. From that simple idea came the purging of many papers, or reorganizing of non-paper items, the pitching of the boxes, more space to walk through, and a sense of excitement and eagerness to keep going. I think it gave my ADD-indecision a place to focus and NOT have to dither, just target the next cardboard box in my line of sight and dig in!

I'm thinking that has scooter's paw prints all over it, Tillie

Hi, all!!!
The fire scare is over & i am intensely relieved & so very grateful to God & the fireworkers!!! Ive been pretty shaken up in a different way, now that im out of the crisis mode.
Porter, your flying car idea sounds fascinating! Im curious, as gross as this may sound, could people's toilets use their pee to make fuel? That way fuel would be free & available?
......dang, i knew i should have written down what i wanted to say to everybody....ha ha...ill be back...

Hello everybody! Tillie glad you are up and running again! Anony thanks for the shout-out. It's easier to think of it as editing at this point. I need a professional editor, I'm afraid, but I'm doing it myself in the meantime! Hello Porter!

My friend from overseas (an artist and designer) said that next time she's in the US, she wants to redo the living room, dining room and library area of my house. She wants me to leave for a day or two while she does it. She has beautiful taste. She picked out the drapery fabric already and although she found a good antique chandelier, I'm not sure it's the one I want. But I do like it and the drapery fabric is beautiful. She will make drapes and then for small window in library she will make a shade. I'm pretty happy about this! This will also help me make decisions re some of the artwork I'm not quite ready to get rid of. She'll be able to help me with that. She said I just leave out the stuff I want her to use and/or choose from and she'll get it all done.

I will likely buy the fabric in the next week or so. I'm not convinced on the chandelier and will see what I think when I go to see it again.

I have to go through my things and find more to take to consignment shop. I liked getting a check earlier this week!

Part 2 of 2 - my own updates

It's gotten a little mushed up in my mind since I had hoped to update more frequently, but that's okay. I'm sure I can at least convey the gist of it.

Last week I went to the storage with the idea I'd had of extracting breakables so that when moving time comes (so exciting to say that as it feels like more and more of a reality!) no one need worry about breaking anything, and I won't be nervous about it either.

So I found my angel collection, which I decided to pare down to just the favorites. Then I packed up the keepers. My cat figurines - one of which did get an ear broken when the social worker picked them up and they fell - I brought home, and repacked carefully. I had found the ear on the floor and figured out what it was, then I found the cat it went to. I glued it on. It needs a little filling in with putty and repainting, but that can be done later when I unpack them in my new place whenever I finally get one.

I was very energized with all that I was doing. The more I did, the more I wanted to do.

I also brought home important paper files, and merged and purged that with files here. Eliminated a fair amount of paper in the process. I used to have so many metal filing cabinets of paper. I think it was 2-3 of the 4-drawer and 4 of the 2-drawer, something like that. And I carried those babies up and down stairs, loaded them into vehicles, etc. No wonder I developed hernias! They are long gone. I'm hoping 2-3 medium tubs will hold any papers I absolutely need.

I took some of the repacked collectibles back to storage yesterday. Seems kind of redundant as they will be getting moved again, but they were in the way here at the house.

I also did some moving of stuff in the unit, and made a discovery that was a bit dismaying - about half a dozen more cardboard boxes of assorted papers that had been hiding behind other stuff. Sigh. But it'll be okay - I'll just have to set a day to tackle those. Or more than one day if that's what it takes. I can have a system - there's a wastebasket already for "Shred" and I can make temporary boxes for sorting a few keepers. Hopefully the vast majority will end up in trash or shred.

Some of these papers are memory triggers good and bad. My college stuff - the awards and all, then the plan for the master's thesis that never got rolling because I crashed and burned emotionally . . . the home foreclosure stuff (shudder), and some good memory stuff as well. I kind of had to laugh at myself because when I thought the other day that I was down to just two boxes, I had this nagging feeling at the back of my mind that it had been too easy. Now I know!

It will all be okay. Even the sad memory triggers. God's got my back, and it will be okay. 🙂

In between all that storage and other organizing of my stuff, my roommate and I tackled yard work that hadn't been doable during the rainy days in April. Cleared out the remains of a dead tree, emptied a big compost bin, weeded some in the garden beds, etc. I'm not the hardcore gardener she is, and I tend to view it more as a chore these days. But there's still some satisfaction in getting it done, and right now the bugs aren't as bad as they will be.

I'm not going to plant much of my own except stuff for my bunnies to eat. If I plant any flowers, I'll be sure to get ones that will obligingly DIE come fall, so that neither of us will be tempted to bring them indoors for the winter. The house gets overcrowded with plants, IMO. I can at least do my part to not add to that.

So, I have been very busy. But it's all worth it! Glad to be back on the board and now that I've said where I'm at with things, there'll be a context for update posts that aren't a mile long - provided I can get them made promptly!

Hi
In the middle of the storm here.
Can't stay, can't move. Ugh!

I've missed alot of reading,
Hi SubC

I haven't read anything and missed your joining in on the thread, hope you are well,

I've added a new function to my management of tubs and boxes.
What currently due is limit the number of of boxes to take up 1 large wall per person in the house.
Along the line of a little mess is OK , but alot of mess is unacceptable.
Any wall of tubs must be able to be inspected and able to trap insects or rodents at a moment's notice.
All tubs must be lable , , layered with only 1 layer nothing Inside overlapping. All tubs must be photographed and those photos viewable on the TV.
A manifest , in alphabetical and or numerical order. Tubs must be Inspected in the spring and fall, with time change for daylight savings .

And what I'm adding is tubs that are given a purge date. So I can purge tubs and not just keep storing what I hoard. If I don't open tubs in a full year. I'll sell it. And keep the money in a special CD account . I'll keep a manifest of what I sold, and if I ever need it again , I'll search for it on sites like let go , when the deposits mature.

This way I have the space, and the money. So if I purged it by selling , I can rebuy without as much trouble as trying to manage storing.
Whatever doesn't sell I'll donate for for taxes.

Right now I have 17 tubs filled with clutter all pieces the size of a large softball or smaller.
Though I tried to keep everything in single layers or in containers inside of totes. Some of just fits better all just dumped in a tub like a pile of treasure in chest. And that's where having the inventory and manifest is helpful. I can also match pricing on the sites like LETGO. So I know what it's worth and it's easier than having garage sales in my opinion.
I was able to trade a gas stove for dishwasher . And OMG, did that make me happy. Something large that I was hoarding for 6 years unused. Trade for something I really needed. I still wash the dishes by hand just before eating off them , but the dishwasher offers a way to keep food from drying on plates , or allowing other I live with to simply put plates filled with food wastes, in the sink filled with water. I mean yuk yuk yuk yuk yuk.
I hate it. I don't mind doing dishes.
But I hate walking into the sink and finding plates that have to scrubbed out with scratch pads day after day. Since my wife became ill. I was told to step up. Well let's see. I mow grass, take out trash, clean toilets,sinks , and showers, mop floors, sweep carpets, porches, and cars. Wash all laundry, and prompt teenager to put laundry away,
I shop, cook , purge the fridge, clean microwave and stove, make bill payments and keep the checking register, trap and dispose of mice, Chane out light bulbs, and managed the hoarding, and schedule visitation and healthcare, as well as drive friends of the teenager, to here there and everywhere.

It would be nice if they could simply scrape thief uneaten food out of their plated before putting them in the sinks and filling with water. Ugh!
Rant over.

I feel better. Sometimes I just need to let it out , and not always to people that are doing it as tend to get Curt instead of having an encouragement tone of voice.

OK well I'll check back in in a few days , I'm having level 4 pain, that I can do nothing about.
Similarly to arthritis, if I don't keep moving , my pain become intolerable. I have so much to do, I almost don't need a list, because I Co close my eyes take a few steps and bump into something that could be a task on the list. I know I need to observe my relaxation outlets, but there's an overwhelming amount of things to do, and looking at the the total of hours needed to do them.I will need help. So but, I'm trying to reserve the help for the move. And focus on the packing ,

Moving is always an opportunity to purge and reorganize. But then the deadline looms, heavy on the priorities. I have a great plan, but I need to remember advice about the end game.
DO NOT MOVE THE HOARD INTO THE NEW LIVING SPACE.

I apologize for making this post about me the whole me and nothing but me.

I wish you all the best and very thankful.

PS we did find a place , and put in the hold money, it's not ready, and the deadline looms.
So I'm still packing and putting odd clutter in storage, and all large things are now down stairs , so it won't need to come down stairs on the moving day.

Yes it's true.

We can make hydrogen out of water H2O
BUT urine is 95% water H2o
2% is urea it's the protein waste that comes out through urination. Urea is h4o so for the same energy to process water into hydrogen. You can get twice as much from urea.

Thing is there are scientists and engineers working on home versions is very cheap.

If the urea is harvested for its hydrogen you don't have to go get it. It doesn't have to be shipped.
An average family of 4 can create enough of it to heat a three bed room house to 65° for 4 months .

And some African school girls science project confirmed we can fill an electrical generator with 1 Gallon gasoline. And process the urea.
The generator creates enough hydrogen to then run on The hydrogen. For four times longer than the 1 gallon of gasoline.
Burning Hydrogen is pollution neutral.
It is extremely explosive.

So when I saw the flying car. Recently in the news.
Sponsored by Google CEO.

I began to dwell on the subject is at work while I'm in boring mode.

The problem with a flying car is they cost 300,000
AND YOU CANT take them everywhere . And cost four times the amount of fuel.

So I began to think of a flying mo-ped.
But a flying Harley sounds so much more cool.

If the bike and flying apparatus can separate.
Then you may fly or just ride the bike.

This technology has been fully developed for motor bike to use hydrogen. But the supply at service station is almost non existent. .
I'm thinking there whole nations of young people that would be willing to sell their urea in exchange for rides. . See my thoughts just keep looking to the future.

It's just that there is so much of it. Urea.
It's what humans make most. Staggering amounts.

What caught my imagination is the recent Google backed kitty hawk Hoover car video.
That flying car is under 200 lbs
.
Imagine a flying motorcycle that is made only as a commute vehicle. That is made to match our urea output, and out employers offer addition Hydrogen From their collection. Of urea as an employee benefit. .

If we're going to save the planet?
Home Heating and automobiles must stop using fossil fuels. Only then can we start to implement co2 captures I get emotions before the oceans become too acidic to support Shell creatures and egg layers.

So my mind goes there . It's my creative outlet to help me keep from dwelling on my dramas.
My escapes.

If only I were king for a day. ~sigh~

Drive by - I've literally been getting so much accomplished that I haven't had time to post about it! I want to catch up on you all's happenings and write a "real" post about mine soon. In the meantime best to everyone! 🙂

Hi, I'm new.

I posted a little bit about myself in the welcome forum and Tillie said it was ok to come in.

It's going to take me a while to get to know people and I can't see the other posts when I'm replying, so please forgive me if I mess stuff up. I'm interested in the storage unit progress already, criticalmass, right? - not sure about the capitalizing. Getting rid of cardboard is always good! It doesn't make good storage.

Today is a hard day because I have nothing scheduled to give it structure and it's been raining all day. I'm going to try to clean off the kitchen counter before I need to make dinner in three hours - which I realize "normal" people would consider a slam dunk, but I'm hoping that here I can get recognition for an accomplishment.

I also want to walk up (my house is a tenth of a mile from the road) get the mail, process it, and put enough paper in the recycling bag to balance the mail plus one page.

Hi everybody!

Porter, I just got here. I've Ben trying to get everyone straight in my head. I'm sorry you are struggling with so much pain. It sounds like you have found a hour system to control and limit the clutter.

I hate moving. We used to do it lot and I always thought I would clean out but ended up throwing so much in random boxes at then end. The last move was the worst. I hope your move goes smoothly.

I bought bins and a storage rack for my basement, but I don't have everything organized on it yet. All my "scrapbook" stuff is still in cardboard boxes and isn't supposed to be on the rack anyway.

Dh and I have been working on the house. We are building on a great room which will be open floor plan kitchen/dining/living room so that our growing (adding kids spouses, hopefully someday grand Kids) family can gather. Dh designed it with minimal storage to keep it clean and open - lots of windows for my SAD, but they go too low to put shelves under them.

I get frustrated though, because every step involves me removing things from a space, then something happening to the space that reduces the available storage (son's room got two windows and a queen sized bed. It is now the guest room and has no space for a dresser, shelf and desk that were in there.) So even as the hoard gets smaller, the mess gets worse.

My kitchen is messy this morning, but just dishes. I also got the mail and still need to get rid of 3 sheets of paper to be "ahead".

I didn't wash the bins, so they are staying here all weekend.

I did make cheese, so the milk backlog is better but not fixed.

This is getting long, so I will talk about the food issues another time/place.

Today: teaching, more recycling to drop off, catch back up on kitchen, more out than in.

Hi again, all! 😀
Tatoulia, that idea of getting rid of 20% of your stuff this month sounds great! Measuring it doesnt sound easy tho? 😀
Hi, HDD!!! 😀
CM, i love that you are helping Ken with a more fashionable attire!!! 😀
Tillie, im so glad youre feeling better now & healing up from your fall!!! 😀
....another effect ive had from the fire scare is being so appreciative of everything here, even the stuff that needs tossing, that i dont mind it as much....i was kinda hoping for the opposite effect....ha ha....maybe itll come next... 😀

Congratulations, CM! Looking forward to your longer post!

I did it!

I recycled all the mail except one envelope for dd2 who is living with us this summer. I went down to my file drawer to try to find three sheets of paper (my guess, since I didn't open her mail) and discovered that I still had all my check statements from 2004-2006 - shredded and recycled!

Counter is clean - I moved everything to the room it belonged in (if that was the kitchen, I put it away) and I took the recycling out to the car to drop off tomorrow. I even put one item in the trash.

trash is a flashpoint for me and I am working very hard at avoiding things coming into my life that will eventually be trash in order to avoid throwing things "away" - there is no "away". I cancelled the trash service and now drop the trash (mostly plastic food packaging) in the wastebasket in my classroom - with permission - or the trash can at the grocery store (I bought it there, seems fair). This is usually an empty chip bag refilled with trash or a ziplock quart bag that used to have nuts or lunch meat in it. One or two a week.

Tomorrow I work all day, so my household goals are simple - to bring in less than I take out, and to go to bed with clean kitchen counters.

OK I hesitate to talk about this.
But if it doesn't kill me ornate make me stronger.

My sister's law has agreed to come help move.
Not my wife's sister. But my wife's step brother's wife. She looks exactly like the woman I fell in love with and got away. Not assuming everyone everyone has someone they couldn't say no to.
But I have a difficult time saying no to her.
She's caught me looking at her and checking her out. And she's been very touchy feely ever since.
And we'll if I go on I'll embarrass myself. But she exposes herself to me, and I've struggled to look away . Doors left open and the little things that add up to trouble making.

Nothing's ever happened, and nothing will happen as ling as my wife lives. The thing is she's the only one willing to help, as my plan for helping buddies for each isn't wife, teenager, and myself has fell on bad timing.

She used to be severely obese and had bariatric
Surgery. For whatever reason, I was very complimentary to her as she lost weight. Without realizing what that might mean to her. I've never been shy around her at family gatherings as we're sort of the odd ones and we tend to gather up all the kids with us and give the family time to talk .

It's known that her and her husband have an open marriage. I have been able to resist her advances. As I prefer monogamy so my home doesn't turn into a turmoil of betrayal and mistrust.

I'm not sure if talking about here is the right place, or appropriate. But I swear the problem is that she looks exactly like an unrequited love I lost. How do I put it. I don't realize I'm staring at her twitterpated. And she gushes. She has invited my daughter and I to live with them after my passes. And bought a house to accommodate us in advance even though is said no , but find myself thinking about saying yes, but I'm not looking ahead, I made a vow to my wife and to god, but she tempts me. Her husband jokes about the open marriage thing, but my first wife , wanted that, when said no, she did it anyway, fell in love , and I had to end our marriage. Though I loved her.

Well be spending many hours alone together in private secluded places. If something happens I'll hate myself , as I've never cheated , not in my first or second Marriage. No cheating in 27 years.

I think I'm just making it into something that it isn't.

I'm hoping to get some feed back from each of you, because I think I need some perspective.

Porter, ive seen a lot lately about the use of urine for fuel. It makes great sense! Did you mean that urine is explosive, or gasoline???
Flying Harleys would be super cool & lots of people would want one! ha ha
It is great to have such an excitement about the future! So much of it is scary, but its great you are engaging in the good things!
Ive really liked the idea of the power producing bicycles. It seems good to literally create the power one uses....and the urine fuel furthers that ideal! 😀

CM you have motivated me!! Thank you!!!! I'm puttering away!

Welcome, SubC! Glad you are here! Congratulations on your accomplishments! Great work!

CM thank you for the nice ,ing posts! You are doing great. So very pleased for you!

Dear Tillie--please take good care of yourself. I've been feeling so much better since taking vitamin B.

Quick post re designer & chandelier--she only wants me to be happy. I told her I wasn't sure on chandelier and she completely focused in on the reason: just not feminine enough for me. She thankfully isn't like the ones we see on TV who fight about stuff and need to be right. When I find my one, I'll pick it up. And meanwhile me if she sees anything overseas, she can send me a photo. I'm hoping for something with a French influence,

Must go--thinking of you all.