| Tatoulia | Posted: 28 April 2017 - 07:01 AM |
Hello everyone--I've started a new chapter as the other one is getting unwieldy and this should solve Anony's missing button problem! Tillie, take good care of yourself today. I've asked Dr Scooter and Nurses Marty and Twinkles to check in on you. Porter, your three-day plan sounds terrific! WTG! | |
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| Tillie | Posted: 11 June 2017 - 09:33 PM |
Hi Porter ๐ | |
| Porter | Posted: 11 June 2017 - 09:07 PM |
I've finally got it all in the next house. but disaster has me reeling. My wife has been sent to a hospice center. And my brother killed himself. even my phone was stolen. my escape about the flying bike has been nominal. on the 20th will be 1 month since I started moving. I've been so exhausted. I finally slept yesterday until my eyes just popped open. Im sad for my brother and my wife. | |
| Subclinical | Posted: 11 June 2017 - 08:46 PM |
Tatoulia, you have a lot of people to take care of! And no one else is taking care of you. CM, I also enjoyed the long post! I am hopeful for you about your move. I forgot to say that on Thursday Jim the pig farmer was back, so I only took my usual one box of stale bread. It means I also have to buy feed, but if is much easier to manage. I went to a baby shower today and I took a like-new children's book that I already had (I tend to pick up good titles in good condition at good prices. Each of my kids is getting a starter library when they have children) with a gift certificate for an online store that has stuff I know the new mom wants, wrapped in a reused gift bag and tissue. Dd also went to the shower and wrapped her gift using my stash. Plus she helped with games and I was able to provide felt and safety pins. So, some outs. Small outs, but still outs. Also I started soaking the orange glaze, and worked some more on organizing the studio. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 11 June 2017 - 08:27 PM |
Well I haven't done much of anything today. Saw brother, took him on errands then napped. I've now showered and washed my hair, stripped sheets from bed and have dishwasher ready to go. This sounds like more than it is. The house is a furious mess and I'm tired. Very hot today over 90F. Going to be hard to do much of anything next couple of days. I've kept my windows shut and drapes closed. My legs hurt from all the bug bites from last night's wedding in the woods. How are you? | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 11 June 2017 - 02:32 PM |
CM I am savoring your post! Thank you--I feel more hopeful now. I have read your post twice and will read it again in a bit. It is 3:30 and brother called me at 8 to start the day. I'd barely gotten home and in bed from the wedding. Thinking of you all. CM thank you! Loved reading about your activities, your thoughts on our individual activities and your next step plans! Any chance you'd consider not waiting for the perfect moment to change the storage and call it ready? Let me know--you seem to be flirting with that idea, even if you don't realize it!๐ | |
| CriticalMass | Posted: 11 June 2017 - 01:14 AM |
Being a night owl, but it's a nice quiet time to finally get this long post up. I'll use different colors and space to make it seem less like one huge Russian novel. Last couple of weeks have been pretty busy with church and other commitments. I got several boxes' worth of items donated and helped at the church garage sale Thursday. I also went to some sales myself - another church and some neighborhood ones. But I was good - I really did need to look for certain clothing items and I found some of those. Yesterday I made it to the gym finally. Been out of the habit plus tired, so all I did was take a very leisurely swim and get in the hot whirlpool. But that's okay, it was a start, and a good de-stresser. I got other clothing at Walmart this week. Still need summer shoes; most of mine are getting ratty. I found one pair of nice sandals last week at yet another church sale. I've still been very excited about doing creative stuff. I'm enjoying buying stuff - must watch out - I've felt that old inner frenzy of acquisition. It's not unusual for that to happen after payday (the 3rd). I spend 3/4 of the month pinching pennies and I get antsy, want to cut loose. Bought a few art supplies here and there, and one more Barbie doll when I was at Walmart. She was only $5.00 and a beautiful, Irish-looking redhead, an unusual find. I want to sew her an Irish themed dress. These new items need attending to and put away, the clothing items washed, receipts entered in my spreadsheet, etc. It's like what SubC posted about with the food, I know that it's a different type of stuff but I relate to that about bring something home and having trouble integrating it or dealing with it before it just becomes another clutter problem. Which then I sometimes want to escape dealing with by going shopping! I'm glad I went for that swim - I think exercise can help channel some of the nervous energy that might otherwise feed the shopping urge. Sounds like you struggle with the decision making a lot - it's an occupational hazard for those of us who craft, help people, don't like to see waste, etc. Thinking of ways to repurpose allows us to justify keeping things, but it's a double-edged sword of course. I've been questioning myself on this sort of thing a lot during my decluttering process. Your plan of attack for the crafting supplies sounds like a good start. Keep the momentum going and get those suckers glazed and fired! ๐ Tillie, I really like your list on how to decide if something is clutter. I use a lot of those principles too. That might be worth trying with Steven, having his friend talk to him. You're right - it's easier to see someone else's hoard with a fresh set of eyes. I find I can spot my friends' clutter right away - but I do have to remind myself to use discretion as to whether I should say anything at all, and take a diplomatic and non-threatening approach if I do. I've also been on the receiving end of it with my social worker at the storage unit. I find even though I was enthused I do from time to time experience "backlash" when I look and see how her ways (for example, packing methods) differ from mine. I think, "Why did I let her talk me into that?!" I guess that's natural, and it's not going to make me regress and rebel. The push-pull process regarding how to tackle the hoard is both internal in our own minds and external with our would-be helpers or people we're close to. Tatoulia, sorry you have been sick - hope you'll soon be on the mend. It does me good to read your posts about changing sheets and making the bed, though - because it does feel so nice and fresh when I do it, and I hope I'll be motivated to do it more often. I grew up with a neatnik mother and beds were made daily and sheets changed regularly, but out on my own I got ever more lazy. Then clutter started claiming portions of my bed and floor. The idea of changing sheets frequently is demotivating when you know you're going to have to go through this tedious business of removing the crap from the bed and replacing it again because it has no other place to go. ๐ It's a long-term goal, when I get my own home again, to reverse this situation. I already have analyzed what would help: 1) Have a bed that is not in a corner - only the head of the bed against a wall, and 2) a good minimalist bed and linens that don't require fussing - no dust ruffles, fitted sheets, complicated headboard/frame assemblies, or other things that I find annoying or bang my shins on. Joan, you're right that getting the right amount of rest we individually need is definitely not a waste of time! If I don't get enough good rest, I'm klutzy and grumpy and inefficient so that consumes more time and creates more complications. I do tend to wish for more time - wish I had a Doctor Who TARDIS which if you're familiar with the show, is bigger on the inside (more space!) and can travel through time and space. I wonder if a real hoarder could even manage to fill up a TARDIS. LOL! Meanwhile, I attempt to come to terms with the standard 24-hour day. Some days more successfully than others. Lists - I would be lost without mine - although I had hoped to go completely electronic when I got my tablet and not have little slips of paper anymore. It only worked for awhile. Important things come quickly and in the time it takes to find and boot the tablet they can slip away. Plus I use a lot of colored paper notes which provide immediate visual cues. Sometimes I just need those. Anony, what a scary episode! Sounds like you're dealing with some toxic people and that can sure be bad on all aspects - mind, body, emotions, and spirit. Please do take care - I second Tatoulia's recommendation of plenty of hydration especially with the summer. Maybe an electrolyte drink - sometimes I've heard a person can overdo straight water, and if you've had faint feelings there might be something out of balance. As for other posts you made - I think we're all in that boat of being intelligent, creative people who can accomplish some pretty amazing things - yet are frustrated by our difficulties coping with what society views as "simple" things like staying decluttered or accomplishing routine tasks. From what I've picked up in my clutter club group and online, and from my own and others' experiences, I am more and more convinced that our brains are wired differently. Thankfully, neuroplasticity enables us to "rewire" them in most cases but there is an investment of time and conscious effort in the process. First, I think, we must "rewire" that part that programs us to be discouraged if we don't succeed immediately and perfectly! Or if we go along on a roll and then hit a bump in the road. Remember Winston Churchill - Never never never never give in completely to that discouragement. Keep picking back up and pushing forward. Joan, you are an example of a quiet sort of courage in your monastic life and coping with your suffering the best way you know how. Glad you are here with us. I do think there is some newer science on the horizon that will address problems' causes without just stumbling around in the dark, making people guinea pigs for unproven psychiatric approaches and Big Pharma profit margins. I say that as someone who has benefited up to a point from the mental health system and medications, but also experienced damage from each of those. As for the rest of my current situation update - the storage unit is getting closer to being ready to move - it's less a matter of bringing it back from a total disaster now and more a matter of how much fine tuning I want to do before vs. after the move. And when the move can happen. Weather is definitely heading into hot now - 90s. Blech. I'll have a chat with the social worker at clutter club meeting the 21st and see what she thinks - if the Moving Minions can be gotten, that would be an incentive to go ahead. Otherwise wait till fall. But still I've come a long way from where I was at the beginning of the year, so that's something. Okay, now to see if this will post and then this night owl will fly back into her hollow tree and get some shut eye! | |
| Subclinical | Posted: 10 June 2017 - 07:11 PM |
Tatoulia, that is great about your hair dryer! It must feel really good. I love it when I find a place for something. So, these actually might be the last yogurt cups I ever get. I stopped buying yogurt in little cups two years ago, and I hope I never need to again. I could, of course, ask the parents to provide yogurt cups. But our parents are so great and so helpful - when the science teacher needed two liter bottles, the parents sent them in full - because nobody drank soda. One parent helpfully provided paper cups in case someone else's kid wanted to drink the soda. I don't want them buying trash just so I can use it! Dh and dd moved the ping pong table from the studio/shop barn to the new basement space under the addition. There is more room than we thought there would be, and dh says if I will sweep the floor I can move my exercise bike out there to stay. Both of those things open up space for me. Also, it's really nice of dh because I wasn't supposed to get to put anything in the new space. He doesn't usually give me space because he worries that I will hoard it, so maybe this means that he believes I am changing? Of course then I took advantage of the new space in the studio barn to spread out a bunch of stuff I wanted to sort through. So it looks worse. But, I found a doll carriage from when I was little. My kids played with it, but they didn't love it the way I did, and looking at it now, there are a lot of things about it that are not really safe. It needs to go. I will take it to goodwill, because it is pretty close to antique at this point and someone might want it as a collectible. That is a pretty big thing. | |
| Tillie | Posted: 10 June 2017 - 11:29 AM |
Good Morning Everybody ๐ Hi Anonymoniker ๐ Hi Joan ๐ Hi Tatoulia ๐ Hi CriticalMass ๐ Hi Subclinical ๐ HELLO PORTER!!! After grocery shopping yesterday I had a nagging headache that aspirin didn't help. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 10 June 2017 - 09:36 AM |
Thanks for the drive by CM! Looking forward to hearing from you. SubC it is a real pleasure having you here! The group is active and this is so helpful to all of us. As to complaining, we are all entitled to complain! We are all safe here! And like you, we take and find our joys where we can. Hello to everyone--doing laundry and a little relaxation before getting ready for the wedding. My big accomplishment this week was cleaning out a drawer in the bathroom and discovering that my hair dryer can fit in it! No longer just laying about. Coffee clinks to all! | |
| Subclinical | Posted: 10 June 2017 - 07:04 AM |
Good morning everyone. Tillie, did you get food? I hate going out. Sometimes I imagine if it was just me here - I would only leave to go to work. And some days, i wouldn't be able to face stopping on the way home, so I would run out of all kinds of stuff. I'd live on rice pudding for days because there is always milk and I buy rice in huge sacks. It wouldn't taste as good once I ran out of sugar, but that still might not motivate me to go to the store. In the summer I would lose track of what day it was, start ignoring clocks.... This is part of why I take classes in the summer and volunteer at the food bank. It makes me leave the house. Also it makes me talk to people, which I know is important, even though it is hard. The depression used to hold off until October, or even November in a good year, but now it is hitting me in the summer. I don't know why. Maybe menopause? Maybe I am just lonely. The transition out of school at the end of the year is hard. I had a really strong physical reaction to turning in the evaluations yesterday - like I had been doing hard physical labor for days. And I have been cold all week - which is crazy, because it'd been getting up into the 80s, but yesterday it was so bad my Renaults kicked in. But now I feel like a whiner. My health is generally excellent. I feel awful for those of you who are struggling with severe physical limits and pain! Anony, my brother suffers from a cooling disorder. He used to get hassled (even by teachers) for being a "wimp" because he had a doctor's note to miss gym if the temp was over 80. Plus he was supposed to opt out of some activities. He was a tough looking 6' tall teenager and he never would (probably because of the teasing) so my mom would get called to come get him because he had passed out and was grey and vomiting. I learned you don't mess with heat! Joan, I'm glad you are seeing bright spots and progress! Tatoulia I hope your cough is better soon! I am going to try to focus on my garden and pottery this weekend. I finished the red glaze yesterday, so however much time that was (maybe half an hour total?) and I have two bottles of useable glaze worth about $27 total. See, the problem isn't that I save this stuff, it's that I have no follow through! I set all the little yogurt cups I cracked the dry glaze out of aside to wash, but I think that actually I don't need them. I should probably throw them in the trash, right? They don't recycle. I can't think of another use for them. This is - oh, wait! My class can start plants in them in the fall! (This paragraph brought to you by my actual stream of consciousness. - so now I will wash the cups and set them aside until September. I need to make a place to store stuff for that class so I can find them. When I was typing "this is" the next word was going to be "hard" and I was feeling sad and frustrated. Then I thought of the plants and I got a jolt of happy. If dh were watching that, he probably would have felt a tiny bit of hope (she's going to throw something away!) followed by dissapointment and disgust (nope. As usual.) I don't know what is right. I know he wants less stuff in our lives, but isn't it better to use things you already have rather than constantly creating garbage and buying new? I have made a huge dent in the coming in. They still buy things, but I am trying to tell you everything - bought, accepted, salvaged - so you can see how I'm doing and give me good feedback. (oh, I bought a container of paint stripper last week for a furniture project - which I didn't mention because it is consumable. The dresser has been sitting in my garage for months.) CM, I am looking forward to your post. | |
| CriticalMass | Posted: 10 June 2017 - 12:06 AM |
This is a test post - Internet has had issues today. I have another longer post I saved that I hope to upload tomorrow. Meanwhile, if you're reading this, know that I'm thinking of all of you. Anonymoniker and Joan especially my heart goes out to you. May you find healing and strength. <3 <3 More later. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 09 June 2017 - 10:50 PM |
Dear Joan--somehow I missed your post. I feel terrible about your situation. How terrible. My heart breaks for you. Keep fighting. Dear thing. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 09 June 2017 - 10:47 PM |
Anony--do not overwork yourself--esp in heat and humidity. I have an extremely low tolerance for heat, humidity and direct sun. I get sick very easily in the heat. Sometimes in the summer I wait at the office til seven before going home, just so i can take public transportation without it being too crowded and hot. I've also been known to carry a ziplock bag of ice to put on my wrists. You must be very, very careful. We are expecting heat here next week. Not looking forward to that. I rarely make plans in the summer because I know if it's hot and humid, I won't be up for it. Snowstorm expected? I will meet you for dinner and a movie! Tillie! My cough is working it's way through my body. I am tired of it. It gives me a headache. Hope everyone is well and happy. I slept after work tonight then had to go up to mom's at 10 because she was having some problems. TV wouldn't work, she was hungry, etc. I'm now home and showered. Have a wedding tomorrow -- looking forward to it. | |
| Joan | Posted: 09 June 2017 - 09:22 PM |
Hah! Anony, I am constantly reassuring myself that I am not making excuses. Tillie, I feel bad that you have to go through that. My movement disorder (cheek biting) was dismissed for decades as "just emotional". I got dumped into the alleged "mental health system". It took me about 35 years just to get one doctor to take the problem seriously. No-one (not even the providers I see every week) realize how devasting this disoder is. My brain does not work right at any time. My sleep could hardly be called "sleep" most of my life. For the last 3 years I have been seeing a chiropractor, now every week since last September, because the bitng twists my head off my neck. I often have been getting vertigo and balance issues. After a recent setback these last two days were great, so time spent not bitng gives me hope. In this lifetime I have to work with what I have. Newer modalities (like homeopathy and the type of yoga that I practice) help a lot. In coming times I expect medical systems to address actual needs of patients, rather than just disposing of "defective people". That is my rant for tonight. Be well. | |
| Anonymoniker | Posted: 09 June 2017 - 03:59 PM |
~โก~Greetings, y'all!~โก~ | |
| Tillie | Posted: 08 June 2017 - 08:35 PM |
Hi Everybody ๐ Hi Subclinical ๐ Hi Tatoulia ๐ Hi Joan ๐ Hi Anonymoniker ๐ Hi CM ๐ HI Porter ๐ Watered everything outside today then spent the rest of the day making fabric strips for rag rug making. | |
| Subclinical | Posted: 08 June 2017 - 02:11 PM |
Thanks tatoulia, Making myself accountable to someone (besides my boss) helps. I got the evaluations done. I'll proof read them this evening and turn them in by the deadline at 9 tomorrow. (Probably before I go to bed) The inspector came and we passed. Drywall is delivered. Kitchen is better, laundry is reduced to what fits in the basket. Dd is making dinner tonight,so I am going to walk up for the mail, process that, stir the red glaze, shower, and go to the food bank. I will triage the never ending list again tomorrow. Btw, I tore the tush of those shorts this morning, so they are going, and the new pair was just in time! | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 08 June 2017 - 06:33 AM |
Good luck today, SubC. Deep breaths! Lots of water! | |
| Subclinical | Posted: 08 June 2017 - 06:22 AM |
Good morning everybody! Tatoulia, movie into your chest didn't seem like a good thing, but it sounds like you are on the mend. Glad you have your kitty to make you feel better. My kitty (actually my son's kitty who was left behind) is always the best company when I am low. Yesterday I took care of the cherries. I made some cheese, but it wasn't coming out well, so I quit. I stirred the red glaze. The inspector couldn't come and I didn't do any evaluations, and so I must do them all today because they are due in the morning. I intended to reread them today for editing before sending them in. My kitchen is a horrible mess. I never checked the mail, which kept papers out. I did make dinner. I filled the washing machine and forgot to start it. I feel discouraged today. And I overslept. Dh did not set the alarm. I know that sleep is important, but it is always better when I go to bed early, not sleep late. Instead I stayed up too late last night. But the inspector IS coming, and we have drywall being delivered this morning. I am going to do the farm chores, and then, aside from those two interruptions, I will focus on the evaluations like a laser beam until they are done. I am supposed to help at the food bank at 4:30. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 07 June 2017 - 09:40 PM |
Hi Joan--i appreciate your giving us a glimpse of your struggles. It is certainly a tough existence and I am so pleased you are here with us. My kitty is next to me, purring away right now. She'll be thirteen this summer and she's so dear. She looks older to me, but that's fine. I do not look the way I did when I went to the shelter so many years ago, looking for a cat to be my co-pilot. I only dusted one surface in the bedroom today. During lunch I went up to my mother's to change the litter box. Her regular cleaning lady is on vacation and the substitute doesn't clean the boxes (understandable--her usual person does it as a favor). After work I did some shopping I needed to do for a wedding this weekend, I did finally clean my bathroom sink and the vanity and the toilet. The tub is still gross, as is the floor, but I'm getting there. I also cleaned the mirror in the bathroom, honestly this took no time at all. I have the coffee ready to start up in the AM. all of the dishes are in the dishwasher and I wiped down the one clear counter. I have to be at work on time tomorrow, none of my usual hijinks as we have an all-department meeting that starts promptly at nine. I am also presenting at it so I need to be use and awake. One habit I've learned since I came here is I fold and put away my laundry. What a giant difference in my life. Takes no time. | |
| Joan | Posted: 07 June 2017 - 08:00 PM |
Thank you both, Tatoulia and SubC, for the good wishes about my "sheets" (really a bare mattress). I remember when I was in my 20s how much I liked clean sheets. However, now I am demanding more from the universe: a body that sleeps deeply amd regularly. The universe is putting up a fight, but I'll win in the end. Unfortunately I have no "team" on this plane to give me any practical help with my daily tasks, such as home maintenance, sheet changing, etc. There are many reasons for this, and most of them wouldn't be apprended even if I tried to explain, so I won't try. The nature of my job on the planet seems to require a monastic sort of life, meaning a solitary MONOastic life. Tillie, glad you agree with me on the value of sleep and meditation. Love the cat stories. I gave up on pets about 15 years ago, when my goldfish Pumpkin died and I realized I was too sick to even keep a fish in good health. SubC, I have a life-long movement disoder that is very difficult to manage, plus other health issues. Anony, I see your emotional upset as progress. Anyone who really sees what is going on and has been going on on this planet would be very upset. People are starting to see and respond to the conditions we live with here, and to question whether improvements are in order. You are an old soul, so you are a natural empath and are affected by the planetary shifts. If I forgot anyone, my apologies. Tat, hope you feel better soon. You are doing the right thing to take care of yourself | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 07 June 2017 - 09:31 AM |
I'm working from home today. Still sick but it's moving deeper into my chest which I see as progress. I am also going to fast today. I am washing my bed linens now. Will dust and vacuum bedroom today and will again tackle the question of where to put my suitcase. There are more pressing matters but getting home from work yesterday and having my room clean was such a great feeling and I need to feel this way everyday. Get this to a habit level. | |
| Subclinical | Posted: 07 June 2017 - 06:23 AM |
Good morning everyone! Tatoulia, thank you for the encouragement. I'm not really sure if I'm managing more out than in, but I am trying. Since I am keeping the old shirts, yesterday was really an increas - the recycling had all come in from the grocery store recently. Joan, I don't know your back story, but I am sorry you are struggling with such health issues! I also wish that someone (maybe your team in this realm) could fix your bed up for you. It seems like that might help with the quality of your sleep. My big to do tasks for today are Hopefully I also will be meeting with the building inspector, but the office isn't open to call yet. Then I have work in the studio, work in the garden, work in the barn, laundry, dishes, dinner to make... The list goes on, but I won't get to all of that. Most important is to avoid spoiled milk and rotten cherries (and conserve resources!) and to keep in good standing at work. Focus! | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 06 June 2017 - 08:27 PM |
PS to SubC, slot of people I talk to change their sheets every two weeks. I don't think you are outside the norm. My hair is bone straight and I have to wash it on days I go to the office and if I'm going out for dinner or meeting someone or doing anything other than just errands. It gets all bumpy and odd from sleeping. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 06 June 2017 - 08:24 PM |
Hello everyone! So good to hear from you. Dear Joan, I wish I could put a sheet on that bed for you. I know much of your time and energy is spent on your health. I am pleased your health is getting better. I am mentally making your bed for you. Anony, I know that frustrating feeling--all of us here do. Sometimes I feel I abused my privilege of owning stuff and now I'm stuck with all this junk and a place that causes me shame. Breathe, take a walk, have a cool glass of water, tomorrow is another day. SubC, you are doing a good job of more out/less in! I am so glad you are part of this group--very helpful to have you here! Tillie, aww the two kitties sleeping with you! I seem to remember you hang your sheets outside to dry. So jealous! Love that feeling if percale cotton sheets, dried in the sunlight and air. Well I still feel really sick. Went into office today. Came home and slept. Very sore throat and very painful. I didn't even have coffee today, I just waited to eat at lunch time and merely drank water. Hopefully tomorrow I'll see some improvement. | |
| Subclinical | Posted: 06 June 2017 - 07:43 PM |
Hi anony,I hope you figure it out. So along with not washing my sheets enough I wash my hair too much ;D I'm really tired this evening and just coasting. I dropped off the recycling today and I bought one pair of shorts at the thrift store. I was fiddling with the hem of my shorts (dh calls out "OCD") and my thumb went through the fabric. Yesterday the button fell off another pair. I'm starting to look like a scarecrow. But I will keep these shorts for "good" (wearing in public) and still wear the old ones on the farm until my underwear shows. Stirred the glaze. Did a big to do list thing that will reduce my expenses by 40 cents a day. | |
| Anonymoniker | Posted: 06 June 2017 - 07:04 PM |
Thank you, Tillie! Thats an interesting idea! Ive been thinking about how to go about that?! .....ive also been ridiculously emotional all day..crying over everything..... | |
| Tillie | Posted: 06 June 2017 - 04:44 PM |
Hi Everybody ๐ Hi Anonymoniker ๐ Hi Subclinical ๐ I change my sheets every time I wash my hair, about every five days. Hi Tatoulia ๐ Hi Joan ๐ Hi Porter ๐ Hi CriticalMass ๐ Time spent getting the sleep our bodies need is never wasted time. | |
| Anonymoniker | Posted: 06 June 2017 - 03:46 PM |
Hello, to all! | |
| Anonymoniker | Posted: 05 June 2017 - 10:54 PM |
Joan, i can totally relate to your ~โ~Team in the Spirit World~โ~ In many ways i have more of a relationship with those who have left this 'Plane' than with those who are still here...โกโกโก | |