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Tatoulia
Posted: 20 August 2014 - 08:29 PM
Hello everyone. I can see that we have all been dealing with a lot lately. For me, I've spent the last several days trying to get my hands on some diagnostic study results for an I'll family member. Its been a nightmare, fighting with his insurer to get something covered but isn't due to some missing paperwork. His PCP hasn't been able to get it either so I took matters into my own hands and took a half a day off from work to get it dine. The usual call this number,talk to that person, only to end up at square one, being referred all around and ending up at the same place I'd called originally. It is compounded by the fact that I am not the patient and although I am health care proxy they require all thus other stuff. Eventually got in my car and started driving instead of phone calls. It looks like my hard work paid off and 8 think I have the right stuff now. Going to fax it all over the place when I get to work tomorrow. I wish I'd thought of just finding them on my own back in July when issue first arose.

I have not spent any time in my scary closet but let's not focus on the negative. The positive is I'm keeping up with clean and clear kitchen. Never a dirty dish on sink. Counters clean and clear!! Dining room table still looks very pretty. No papers! All laundry washed and folded and put away. It feels so much easier to be me.

I hope everyone is doing well. Please take care of yourselves. Barb, my heart sank when reading that you heard someone being called a hoarder. Oh boy.
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bitsy
Posted: 20 August 2014 - 06:19 PM
LR2014
thinking of you with love and sympathy

"What we have once enjoyed deeply
we can never lose.
All that we love deeply
becomes a part of us."
? Helen KellerĀ 
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Barb
Posted: 20 August 2014 - 03:36 PM
I am so sorry, LR. (((Hugs))) from me, too.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 20 August 2014 - 11:15 AM
My condolences, LR.
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Tillie
Posted: 20 August 2014 - 10:34 AM
LR2014

(((HUGS)))
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LR2014
Posted: 20 August 2014 - 10:22 AM
Good morning, everyone. I wanted to let you know that my much-loved older relative that I've told you about passed away last night. (I was on chat last night and didn't get the news until I saw my phone this morning.) Thank you again for the extra love and encouragement you all have given me over the past few weeks regarding this situation. I probably won't be on the daytime chat very much over the next few days because of family matters.

Glad to have met so many new people last night on chat! Welcome to all of you!

I'll be reading posts when I can, but I may not be posting much during the next few days. Hugs to everyone.
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Tillie
Posted: 20 August 2014 - 10:03 AM
Good Morning Everybody :)

Hoping that everybody's problems are all getting smoothed out. (((hugs)))

I am trying to do the best I can here to keep things up.
Cats are taken care of every day but not much else is getting done other than laundry & dishes.

Please take care of yourselves.
Do the best you can with what you have to work with.
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diane
Posted: 19 August 2014 - 06:16 PM
Wow, sorry so many problems you all are dealing with.I almost did not come to this site today because I feel like I wasted most of my day being indecisive on how to do a few things. Did do dishes, watered some bushes. Used perimeter spray on red ants yesterday, today most appear dead so used it again. Found 2 more areas in back yard with huge ant colonies, same big red ants, sprayed the heck out of them, hope it works. Still too hot for me. Supposed to cool down tomorrow, sure hope it does. I found myself jumping from task to task and find it a big waste of time so tried to stick with one thing until done. Think I will go get groceries soon, also have to drop off donations.
Hope tomorrow is a better day for all of us
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Tillie
Posted: 19 August 2014 - 10:17 AM
Hello,

Hoping today will be a better day.
Yesterday woke up with a migraine and then the well pump malfunctioned so I had no water.
A packrat was in the pumphouse area and ran back under the house when I opened the door.
Wrote a post here and when I hit "enter" my computer went blank & the post dissapeared.
Scooter scratched his eye on another cat's claw. Think it will be alright, hope so any way.
So far today the headache is gone and I have water.
Fingers crossed.

Take care everybody. (((hugs)))
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bitsy
Posted: 19 August 2014 - 07:32 AM
Tatoulia and Dianne
Thank you both so much for your posts. My son had catheter removed last night and may be released to go home today. So now I am freaking because there may have to be home care, and he probably shouldn't come to house till he's more healed. to much stuff to trip over and not a good environment to be taking care of surgical wound and colostomy care. So I guess I will try to get a motel room. maybe extended stay. More money I need to spend on trying to un-hoard. This is how I don't get things done. one "crisis after another. overwhelmed. decisions, decisions. headache, nausea, etc.. Don't know about getting help.
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Barb
Posted: 19 August 2014 - 06:51 AM
I am sorry about your situation, Karl. I hope everything works out for you. It must be frustrating to have to keep moving.

I was eating lunch at work the other day in the break room and I overheard someone say, "Yes, she's a hoarder." I froze instantly. But they were not talking about me. They were talking about a woman that works in another part of our building. They said that this summer four people came in to help her clean and reorganize her workspace because it had gotten so bad. And they wondered aloud what her house must look like where she lives. And they wondered how long she will be able to keep her work area neat and clean.
No one at work would ever guess that I am a hoarder. I am super organized and super neat at work. You could say I am obsessed about it. My desk is clean and everything is put away before I leave even if I have to do it after I clock out. I have even been known to purchase color-coded file folders and containers for things I use most often so that I can locate them easily. This is because, for me, if everything looks the same, it becomes confusing and things get lost. If things look different, I can make decisions about where they go faster and easier.
And I was reminded again how alike we hoarders all are and yet how different. Some of us, like the other woman, are chronically disorganized. Some, like myself, have to be super organized in order to function. And maintenance is crucial. Once clutter reaches a certain point, we cannot deal with it effectively without becoming extremely anxious.
There are so many of us out there trying desperately to get back a life that has spiraled out of control. We just take one day at a time, one step at a time, do what we can for today, and trust that we will get where we need to be in the end.

Have a great day, everyone. Keep your eye on the prize!
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Karl
Posted: 18 August 2014 - 10:44 PM
New housing-related woes. (Not a hoarding issue.)

Today I got this info from my housemate. The background information is that she (and her adult son) have been renting this place from a friend of hers, since about the beginning of this year; when she complained about not being able to afford the rent, the owner told her to find someone else to rent the smaller bedroom, which is where I came in.

Now, the owner wants to raise the rent, by what seems to be an unreasonable amount, with the alternative being "move out in a month".

Apparently the whole thing was a handshake deal -- there is a contract (the copy i'm looking at is version 2 with a lot of stuff penciled in, and i hear there was a version 3 and version 4). But nothing was ever signed.

She also said that the owner told her she could live here for four years, but since it's a month-to-month deal, that figure probably isn't relevant. A line item in the (unsigned) contract suggests the rent can be increased by 3% each year. The current proposed increase (after less than one year!) is more than 20%, if I understood her correctly.

Near as i can tell, the owner is also having financial difficulties and is hoping to solve them by raising the rent. Though if we respond by moving out and the place goes unrented for a while, then that's going to make the owner's financial situation worse, not better, for the immediate future.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 18 August 2014 - 04:33 PM
YAY Diane! Congratulations!
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diane
Posted: 18 August 2014 - 03:44 PM
i wrote long post (below) and it would not post, I copied it, closed this site, then logged on again and pasted it and it posted. I think it took so long to write previous post that I got timed out or something, so after reading posts about not being able to post, I wonder if it is a timed thing, if we take too long we can not post. Good reason to copy before we attempt to post
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diane
Posted: 18 August 2014 - 03:37 PM
ianne I am so grateful that you updated us, I have missed you and knew you were getting help, so great that you have so much done now, amazing actually. So great you are not buried in your treasures now and your daughter must be so proud of her home now. thanks for letting us know
well, made my to do list
Got up on roof and attached the new metal roofing. Last guy here said it was a waste to use metal roofing and I should just coat it with asphalt emulsion, I debated, then thought, I like the metal roofing, it is already in place and it is 1/10 the work of the other stuff, so what if it costs much more, I like it. so I attached it, so nice to look at it and know it is straight and I did it myself. I figured out how to do roof cap, got it in place, then was too hot so came in to see what you are up to today. I looked over the other areas of roof, looking for areas that might leak, plenty of time for that. After chat last night I finished painting one side of 4'x8' osb board and then the thunder started crashing so moved board in walkway, I had a big spot light on it so did edges and today I can paint other side. Bought it to use where big garage roof has a big sag. Now not so sure, think I will just continue patching that piece of junk roof for this year, who cares how it looks, I never look at that side of garage, lucky neighbors do. I feel like roof is manageable now that I talked it over with you tillie. Balance today, so plan to wash a few dishes, clean bathroom, put a little clutter away. My good drill was put away last week and today I couldn't find it, reason for permanent homes. I moved it last week to a home, just forgot forwarding address. It had been on covered deck shelf, thought I should put it inside so does not get lifted, I am too trusting but since my RV rack got stolen, been trying to not leave good tools in plain site. My battery drill doesn't hold a charge for long so really want to find corded drill. I feel so much better after having two different people tell me they would not work on my roof, too difficult. Now I can do the best I can do and feel ok that it is not perfect, good enough to keep things dry, if not will help me toss stuff!!! I feel a little dose of happiness today. Chat really helped me last night, was so great hearing from others and what is going on in their life.
Tat, my friend, you have been such a great support and encourager for me this past week, and I thank you. Your kindness comforted me and made me so aware of the need to be kinder to myself. This morning I looked around at all the repairs, cleaning painting I have done and took it all in. The workers that came and saw the disarray had no idea that I painted the whole entryway, steps, deck, outside of freezer room and garage, so much improvement. I got devastated by their comments about how impossible the situation is, well I am making it useable inspite of crappy construction. Today I am proud of all that I have done, and with that said, please remind me when I am only seeing what I have not done or what I have done incorrectly!!! I love this group so much, thanks to all.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 18 August 2014 - 12:16 PM
What a lovely post, Dianne, and congratulations on you successes. You need to know that reading through your past posts, I feel close to you. Your words are serving as an inspiration for me. So glad to finally "meet" you. Thank you.
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Dianne
Posted: 18 August 2014 - 11:49 AM
Hello Bitsy,

My name is Dianne and I was a regular poster here for a year and a half. I had to tend to real life issues with family and just stopped by for a *quick check-in*. Rather than do a post in that thread I decided to catch up on *daily chat* and felt your exhaustion and pain.

Please know that most, if not all, posters have been where you are in terms of overwhelm. They, me, may look like we are forging ahead and dealing well with the problems that come along. There were periods of time I was so depressed that reading of others' progress made me feel worse, like why can't I be that strong? Then I wouldn't want to post and be *Debbie Downer*. And sometimes I was the strong one making headway and felt a little bad posting my successes thinking what if this makes someone else feel inadequate?

It's so human to compare ourselves to others and come up short. Especially when we are already feeling down.

At times when we are called upon to take care of others, like I was, like you are now, it's vital to use our energy well. Mental, emotional and spiritual as well as physical. For me that meant admitting my physical limitations and having to set some limits on what I could or couldn't do. That meant asking for help and trusting that some things could be handled just as well (even better) without me. I also needed to think ahead a bit about what I would eat and drink and be prepared so I wouldn't get caught exhausted and fueling with sugar and caffeine. I needed to adhere to a bedtime ritual to encourage sleep. I needed some deep breaths of fresh air ~ not even a walk ~ just step outside and breathe.

Mentally and emotionally I had to avoid the computer and news. If it was of major importance I'd hear it sooner or later. But I couldn't let my energy be dissipated with negativity and ruminating. There was enough of negative consequence in my real life to deal with so the non-essential had to be eliminated. I had to be very strict with my thoughts. There's a time for crying and there's a time to stop. So damn hard for me to learn.

Spiritually it was imperative to focus on what brought my heart and soul peace. I get that from a little solitude, some Bible verses, books, nature and animals.

It is possible for all the stuff we have to do to be a blessing. Sometimes it literally forces us to choose what must, MUST be done. Make a list of *Bare Bone Basics* that you need to function in your life. From there you add what else you can reasonably do for yourself and taking care of responsibilities.

It brought me to the realization that I will never get everything done on my own, as badly as I want to. That meant I finally needed to ask for help ~ not just online support which is great ~ but help in the real world. Most of it has been freely given which has been a tremendous blessing. A lot of it has been bartering ~ I have a vacation place that I can offer or I can bake casseroles and cookies for hungry hard-working, young guys. There has been lots of good stuff I won't use ~ yes, I am *buried in treasures* :) ~ that people have taken and sold on ebay or used themselves. And of course sometimes I just had to pay hard cash. So with the exception of a couple of bedrooms I am now hoard free in my home. That's not to say hoard free in my mind. That's an ongoing compulsion that must be dealt with daily.

You WILL get back with some semblance of control Bitsy. Be aware but don't look too far ahead with dread. Not just one day at a time. Sometimes one hour at a time or 5 minutes at a time.

God bless ~~ Dianne

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Tatoulia
Posted: 18 August 2014 - 09:09 AM
Bitsy, I am saddened by the news re your son and rd your health. First and foremost, please make sure you are eating well. Protein is very important right now. Also stay hydrated. I don't know your financial or living situation but if you have any opportunity to get help from neighborhood kids (just have them take the trash can out and back for you) you should do so. If that is not an option, I certainly understand.

Please eat right. We all are pulling for you.
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bitsy
Posted: 18 August 2014 - 08:59 AM
I am not able to keep going. .just barely. I have been going to hospital every day. Son still in hospital. It's 11 days since surgery, 18 days since he went in to the hospital. They finally took tube out of nose and he is able to eat, not in as much pain, but not up walking around.
I just feel more exhausted every day. I managed to get garbage out to trash can by putting it on the back of the car and driving it to the trash can but decided tying the can to the back of the car to get it to the street was not a good idea. My daughter blew into town yesterday and stopped by the hospital for an hour then came by the house to get some of her stuff out of the shed. I had her take garbage and recycling cans to the street before she took off even though they won't pick up till Tuesday. I don't know how I will get laundry to laundromat and back. Everything seems so impossible. I doubt my son will still have a job. He probably won't be able to go back to work for 2 to 3 months after he gets out of hospital.

Yesterday I just felt like I should be in a nursing home. Reading your post this a.m. in tears. You all doing so well in spite of everything. and I don't know what to do.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 18 August 2014 - 08:55 AM
Good morning, everyone! I agree, LR, this community is crucial to my progress and success. Something has snapped for me. I'm not having emotional problems with getting rid of my stuff. I'm also not beating myself up for spending so much money on useless junk. While making a bag for goodwill yesterday, I included my Nancy Drew books (some from the 1930s and some from the 1960s -- as kids my mother wouldn't go to garage sales but occasionally she'd stop to see if they had Nancy Drews for me). I know they are now "worth something" (maybe $5 or $10 each) but my space is worth much more. I kept the two that meant the most to me and am on the lookout for the two others that i'd like to keep.

I'm just going through and getting this stuff done. Am maintaining kitchen, laundry and living room. Have two gross jobs--one of which I mentioned previously The Dreaded Closet--that I am still trying to face. Will employ the good advice and steps giving by all of you here.

I found you all at the right time.
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LR2014
Posted: 18 August 2014 - 08:09 AM
Good morning. Good to see those who were able to make it to chat last night. As I've read the posts from the past few days, I note how comforting, helpful, and healing it can be to share our struggles here.

Barb had mentioned trying to post earlier in the week but not being able to. I wonder how many of our usual "posters" have been having the same problem; maybe some people whom we haven't "seen" lately have tried posting but couldn't. Just a thought.

One of my goals for today is to spend at least 30 minutes cleaning out my vehicle and organizing things that are in it. I also plan to add to my gratitude list, spend at least twenty minutes on paperwork, and spend at least twenty minutes on cleaning/dejunking/organizing a certain area of my living room.

Have a great day, everyone.
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diane
Posted: 17 August 2014 - 01:20 PM
Tat and Whew, I teared up reading your posts this morning. It is so wonderful you truly understand the extent of what we are dealing with and what it takes to keep going, I truly appreciate your thoughtful kind posts, especially today. I do not usually post this early in the day, but needed your support so got online and see your great posts!!!!
I started in the garage and reclaimed some space. First I looked for things I could donate, several glass items, only one was a difficult decision (collector porcelin) but I don't relate so time to give it away. Then looked for bigger items, found 3 big metal rack things that I never used so time to go. Vertical space was used to get more space to move around. Moved one heavy container, and to my surprise found my 2 electric saws I had been looking for weeks. Made me smile at how when I organize and don't label, dont know where I put things I need to use. Lesson, label and make it a permanent home. I think my disgust and frustration allowed me to get rid of more stuff today. Want to keep up the search for give aways and throw aways today. I have to stop myself when I start wasting time with sorting little things, either give it away or put in general area for nails, screws etc. Micro sorting has wasted enough of my time. I have a big hook thing to hang bicycle on. I need to screw it to wall and put bike on it, or get rid of it, same with some shelves I never put up that I like, if I just keep them in a pile, they just are in the way, either install or get rid of them. I saw hoard more clearly after my visitor yesterday pointed out how much disarray I still have which would make it difficult for workers to do anything to correct problems. Before anyone else comes to fix things, I must get crap out of the way, hopefully willing to get rid of most of troubling items. Yesterday man asked if I was getting help for my problem, I said I have tried therapy and have been in this group for a year and a half. Admitted I need to hire someone to keep me focused, I can do the work just get so distracted. The treat of someone else coming over made me stay really focused this morning. I must just keep going. Yes, it is so easy to go to the critical comments at my worthlessness and failures in life, my go to place when criticized. When he said you have to stop buying things, I felt terrible, I was addicted to acquiring possible creative supplies for many years. Truth is, I have mostly stopped that behavior with the help of this group. As you stated, it is a big deal for us to pass up garage sales, any bargain for that matter. Made me feel so good when I read of your success and that you gave yourself cheers for not stopping at sale. It is the only way to stop addictive shopping, not tempt ourselves. My mind lights up with addictive impulses when I see a garage sale sign so lately I have been staying home on weekends. I would give up if I didn't have your friendship to keep me going. Your successes help me know it is possible. So grateful for your posts.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 17 August 2014 - 12:22 PM
What a beautiful post, Whew. I got a lot out of it; thank you.
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whew!
Posted: 17 August 2014 - 11:20 AM
Hi Diane (((HUGS))),

I thought a lot about your post...and am amazed at how far you've come. And it gives me hope.

From first seeing the problems to second beginning to sort through what is helpful and what is not to third being able to have workfolk come in to fourth being clear with yourself and with him. You've done great.

The platitude "It didn't happen overnight, so it can't be fixed overnight" is true, however, with one big distinction. It will take much quicker to get through these problems we all have created than it took to get in the messes. It took me a lifetime to get to this place. While it might not be overnight, it won't take a lifetime either to get in a more satisfying space.
So my thought to you is YAY YOU!!! You've accomplished a lot!

My second thought is how quickly we beat ourselves up for not having the resources or the energy or the skills or the knowledge or the (fill in the blank). We are but human and we get to make mistakes and learn from them and try again. So again YAY YOU for staying in the game.

Warm thoughts to you this day.
Warm thoughts to ALL of us who are this journey with you.








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Tatoulia
Posted: 17 August 2014 - 10:59 AM
Good morning! I slept til 1030 today and then didn't get out of bed til 11. This is rare for me but I have been very very tired these days and question whether my blood levels/medications are where they should be. (I did get up to feed kitty at 6AM; hence my success in sleeping in).

I thought about yesterday and how I accomplished nothing toward the hoarding situation. Guess what? It turns out that I DID address the hoarding situation in important ways:
1. Kitchen has been maintained. Counters clear and clean, dishwasher emptied promptly and NO dishes in sink. Sink wiped down.
2. Took a beautiful set of Denby dishes (never used) to my car to give to my brother.
3. On way to garage yesterday, the community center was having a White Elephant sale and there was a gentleman sitting outside beckoning people in. I said (very friendly and cheerful) oh no you don't -- I'm busily working on getting rid of 19 years worth of stuff. On my way home around 4:00 PM it was still going on, and I was really tempted to "just stop in and have a look-see". I DID NOT! Victory is all mine.


Sending everyone warm wishes for a lovely Sunday, with special wishes to all of us who need it most today.

Thank you all for helping me to reclaim my life.
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diane
Posted: 16 August 2014 - 11:06 PM
Thankyou Tat. I really feel touched that you took the time to understand my situation and comfort me. I feel better just knowing one person in the world understands how difficult hoarding has made my life, and how I feel tonight. It is clear that I have to get rid of more stuff, just a lot to deal with. Thanks Tat for your kindness.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 16 August 2014 - 09:34 PM
Sending you big hugs, Diane. I'm glad you stood up for yourself and I am glad he responded with kindness. I wish I had a way to help you. Somebody smart and thoughtful and kind once said "tomorrow is another day"....oh wait, I believe that YOU said that.

I seem to remember you had some possible fun plans for tomorrow. I hope you feel well enough to enjoy yourself. And I hope the weather cooperates. It's been lovely and humidity free here in the East. Much easier to breathe, concentrate and feel alive when not so hot.

Giant love to you and all of our friends here.
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diane
Posted: 16 August 2014 - 04:59 PM
Thanks Tillie, you are right about sorting like items together.
A builder came over this morning and looked at all the work I need done. He shook his head alot. Took notes on a clipboard. the area between freezer room and walkway roof is not something he could do because of all the goofy angles, no way to make sure it does not leak. He said, the roof over freezer room was built incorrectly, that is why all the problems. I have heard this several times before. Then he looked at a few other areas that need to be fixed and he said about the same thing. He told me why the stuff I have done incorrectly all needs to come down and start over. I used incorrect braces etc. I was in tears by the time he left. He said I need to stop buying all the wrong stuff and have a professional do the work right the first time. He noted several unfinished things and said I need to have one thing finished before I move on to the next. I said I have adhd and it is difficult to stay focused and I am not happy about my situation and I realize I need help, just difficult to ask for help when I hear over and over how everything is difficult to fix because of the angles and incorrect way everything was built years ago. He was very kind then and wished me well finding someone that would take on all this work. I am a little destroyed over it all, a little hopeless. Think I will do the best I can to clean up areas I have worked on, I saw many odds and ends I had not noticed until his eyes were scanning my entire place. I am ashamed of the way I have lived, and must remind myself that no one could have walked through the areas when the hoard was all over the place. I am not going down town now, too hot and will be over in an hour. Just want to clean up some stuff in walk way, throw away what I can.
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Karl
Posted: 16 August 2014 - 04:25 PM
Yesterday morning I had an omelet -- usually I mix some milk in with the eggs (more volume and fluffier). The milk was still a day or two from its sell-by date, and it didn't smell bad -- but it seemed kind of borderline, like this might be the last chance. Often in that case I'll go ahead and use it anyway, figuring that it's not actually bad yet. But then I remembered Tillie's stories about Steven. So I poured it out and made the omelet without milk.

If everyone has a purpose in life, maybe Steven's is to serve as a example to others.
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Tillie
Posted: 16 August 2014 - 11:02 AM
Diane

One thing that may be keeping you from being able to accomplish more in the craft room is that the items are all in a jumble.
Very hard to make those keep/toss decisions when only looking at things one at a time.
What I believe would help is to make a sorting station. A place to look at grouped items all at the same time.
This is radical and best done with a helper.
You gather up and sort the crafting supplies into "like" groups. Placing it all into boxes or bins.
Removing everything from the room.
Then in an open space you lay out all the items of one kind, one category at a time.
Look at only all fabric or yarn or paint etc.
Easier to make decisions when you can see all "like" items together.
This helps keep you from churning.
I know that I could never make keep/toss decisions on my crafting items without being able to see all of one kind, all at the same time.
Thing is though that this method clutters up an already cleared space while you sort so you would have to commit to completing the sort out in a limited amount of time.
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Tillie
Posted: 16 August 2014 - 10:44 AM
Good morning :)

Hi Diane :)
Big WAY TO GO! for all you did! :D
Sounds wonderful to go out to the street shows!
Have FUN! :D

Hi Tatoilia :)
Such fantastic work you are doing getting everything in your life all sorted out.
Keep up this FANTASTIC work. :D

Hi LR2014 :)
YIPPEE!!! for all that freshly opened space you are making! :D
Great plan to repurpose the bins to organize the truck.

Hi Barb :)
Great to hear the job is going well! :D
Happy your friend has you there to give her support through this difficult time. (((hugs)))

I have a pile of donations ready to drop off at the charity thrift shop. Hoping I can get that done today.
Been gathering up stuff all week and bagging/boxing it.
Just my stuff. His stuff is still right where he has dumped it.

TTYL :D
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Tatoulia
Posted: 16 August 2014 - 09:29 AM
Glad to hear from you, Barb! Very pleased that the job is going well and you'll still have time to work on your place.

I'm sure you will give your friend strength and comfort today. You do that for us here--despite being far away. Take good care of yourself.
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Barb
Posted: 16 August 2014 - 08:16 AM
I posted early Wednesday morning but couldn't get it to stick.
The job is going well. The people I will be working with have been so friendly and welcoming. I have been busy, but not overwhelmed as I was last year. I am working Mon. through Fri. 8:00 to 2:30 with a half hour unpaid lunch. That will get me home in time to do some work on the house every day.
I found a quicker route to work that does not take me through 4 school zones in the morning. It is longer but faster.
Today I am going to another funeral for the husband of a long time girlfriend I grew up with. I know what it is like to be a new widow when you have been married a long time and I hope that I can be of some source of support for her. She has a hard road ahead.
I will be back on Sunday and will check in with the chat group Sunday night.
Have a great weekend everyone!
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Tatoulia
Posted: 16 August 2014 - 07:25 AM
Congratulations LR. You accomplished a lot yesterday! Very impressed, and inspired. Thank you for the chat room tip! After I give everything a little more thought, I am going to set a start date on the closet. I need only look at my kitchen to see what is possible. I have some disposable masks.

Beautiful cool night on the East Coast. Fantastic sleeping weather last night.

Wishing everyone a wonderful day.
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LR2014
Posted: 15 August 2014 - 10:56 PM
Happy Friday night. I hope there aren't glaring mistakes in this, because I'm getting too tired to proofread. It's been a busy day.

Tatoulia, depending on what time of day you are free to work on that closet task, you might find people in the chat room who are ready/willing to give suggestions and encouragement. Glad to know you are taking time to eat some healthy meals and to have some fun, diane! Tillie, those cool temperatures sound really nice to me right now!

Yesterday, I got a number of cleaning tasks done, and I got rid of yet another box of papers. (Well, I kept some photos that were in there, and a few papers that I want to scan.) Today, I rented an open-bed trailer and used it to do several tasks, including taking a couple of bulkier furniture items to a donation location. There is starting to be more free space (little by little) in my living room. (Yea!) I also loaded onto the trailer some large, dusty, had-been-stored storage tubs and washed them inside and out at a local do-it-yourself car wash. Once the tubs dry, I may use them to help organize some of the things that are in the back of my vehicle.

Hugs to everyone.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 15 August 2014 - 09:41 PM
Good evening everyone! Diane, what a great, productive day you had! I'm glad you have some fun things planned this weekend, esp after saying goodbye to the dog. Tillie, great idea for closet. I appreciate it. It sounds doable. The idea re tying hair up and having bug spray were thoughtful. The box/bag idea will also be useful. It hadn't occurred to me to set a timer. So far am just trying to visualize myself dealing with it. Hope to start on Sunday. I'm fearful. But I will feel free.

Today I spent solid time with my financial planner and we made a good plan for getting my debt reduced. Debt has accrued in the last five years. I confided to him that I've recently discovered that I'm a hoarder and as I make my living space right, I'm prepared to rectify the damage I've fine to my credit. Apparently his father is a hoarder and so I told him that I'll give his father the entire contents of my storage spot for $350. We had a giant laugh over that.

Tonight I shredded a bunch of papers from my files in my file drawers. Slow going (no sorting required, all papers are organized into labelled folders-- credit card statements, insurance, etc., going back as far as 2003). The shredding takes time! After I felt too weary to go on, I pulled out the vacuum and took care of any little shredded bits that made their way to the floor. Ran dishwasher and will unload in the AM. Need to wash face and get to bed.

Keep up the good work everyone! Thank you for your help and support. Greatly appreciated.
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diane
Posted: 15 August 2014 - 08:38 PM
Thanks Tillie and Tat. Tillie I finally spent the morning in craft room, thinking I would be as successful in there as was in big bedroom. Did get some progress then realized I was churning so decided until I am ready to really get rid of stuff I will never have it organized. Cant organize a hoard, I know. Then decided to work on some clutter in living room. Cleaned the end table with modem and phone on it. Then did some dusting. Doing the little table could see that I did a good job, see why you say to do one little area. Then back into craft room, used some vertical space. Probably total of 3 hours in craft room today. Improved slightly.
Then went to yard and pulled weeds and moved some succulents. Really felt like I was finally having fun!! Worked all day doing different things, results are not that obvious, but I know things are improving.
I made 2 important calls that I did not want to deal with. One saved me $65 a year. Felt good I took care of these calls finally. Tomorrow will be a fun day. Plan to go to down town street fair in my little town, and old car rally a street over. Just a day to enjoy my little town.
Next weekend there is the best art show of the year by the river in another town, so am looking forward to that.
I am wondering if hoarders ever have things clean and organized and are free to enjoy life.
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Tillie
Posted: 15 August 2014 - 09:44 AM
Hi :D

Sort of cool here this morning. Temps in the 60s but should warm up to 90 later.
Cats have had their breakfast.
I need to go out & water but will wait till it's a bit warmer.

Hi Diane :)
WAY TO GO! for making soup and all the cleaning and organizing you got done. :D
Sorry you have the mean evil red ants too :(
Hope you got the Rx filled and that the new Dr. is a good one.

Hi Tatoulia :)
Good luck with that closet.
The best way to do this is to tie your hair back, have bags/boxes & bug spray on hand.
Set a timer for 5 minutes, open the door.
Grab out the first thing you come to.
Decide keep or toss.
Put it in the bag or box.
Repeat this until the timer dings.
Take a break, do some deep breathing, sip some water.
Reset the timer for another 5, 10 or 15 minutes and do it again.
You CAN do this!!! :D

When this closet is finally reclaimed you will feel so light and happy to have this heavy weight off your shoulders.

Hi Everybody else :D
We really are missing your posts (((HUGS)))
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Tatoulia
Posted: 14 August 2014 - 09:01 PM
Congratulations on your accomplishments, Tillie, Diane and LR and to everyone else! I fell asleep after work today, just so tired. Woke up and took the garbage out. As I was cleaning the litter box and sweeping the floor, I realized something. I haven't touched the hallway closet. Truth be told, I pretend it doesn't exist. It is jammed with stuff and I think some insect creatures are living there so I ignore it. Completely. So while I'm busily doing Second Sweep of linen closet, bookshelves and library closet, I walk by that door everyday and just shudder.

Ugh. I do not want to deal with it. I'm full of good excuses on it. I don't want to wake what's in there, I only want to do if it is garbage night (which tonight is so luckily I can extend the excuse to I want to wait til garbage night, just not THIS garbage night). Ugh. I'm grossed out at the thought.

I need a plan. I have to come up with a plan. I've been maintaining my spaces by vacuuming, sweeping, laundry folded and put away, wiping kitchen counters and sink, but there it is: the awful hallway closet. I just feel that my progress is very fragile. I need to find a way to take care of this. I think everything in it has to be thrown out (which is good--no real decisions to make). I just have to do it. Find four hours and do it. Maybe I'll try to visualize having that space back. Any suggestions/advice welcome and appreciated.

Meeting with my financial planner tomorrow. I've let my finances go to heck during the last five years. Getting the hoarding and clutter under control somehow has freed me to tackle other unpleasant tasks.

Thank you all for being here.
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diane
Posted: 14 August 2014 - 06:06 PM
Yes Tillie, these are the big red biting ants, I have proof of bites!! I was surprised how big they are. Tillie, I appreciate all the advice and support. You were with me this morning when I realized part of my depression was weather and part due to not eating enough healthy food during the weeks of temps in the 90's. So as you say, eat healthy, prepare in advance. This morning I washed dishes, made a big pot of soup, washed dishes, cleaned up. I put soup in 2 smaller pans for next two days. Ate soup for breakfast and lunch today. Will freeze the rest of the soup after it cools more in frig. I vacuumed the entire place, except where floor is buried. 1 load of laundry. Cleaned out a kitchen cabinet, had to throw away several bottles of vitamins that had expired. Filled med minders with calcium and vitamins to help me remember to take, since need to take daily for osteoporosis, and usually forget. Organized garden shed a little more, put some things away in there including pressure washer. Nellie left this morning, I miss her but used that to really get a lot done. Much nicer having a clean floor, dishes done, good food. Still have some clutter to put away out here. Nice to have lots of rain so I do not have to water, gives me more time to get inside things done. I have to go pick up Rx today, last day my doctor is working here, then Rx will be invalid, she is moving to Washington. I really need to take a shower and wash hair, but should just go now between rain showers. Thanks for posting all that you got done, helps me keep going and know there is hope.
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Tillie
Posted: 14 August 2014 - 11:30 AM
Good morning everybody :)

Hi Tatoulia :)
Great work developing new good habits! :D
Soon they will become automatic.
Fantastic amount of decluttering and organizing you have accomplished. Keep up all the GREAT progress. :D

Hi LR2014 :)
WAY TO GO!!! :D
So happy that you all are working together in chat and getting things done! :D

Hi Diane :)
YEA!!! for wider goat paths! :D
Some ant colonies can't be killed with spray. You need to poison the queen. They sell ant granules (poison) that the worker ants bring inside to the queen because they think it's food. Doesn't work on the big red stinging ants we have here, they just bury the poison with dirt and ignore it.
Nothing kills those ants here. :(
I killed some big brown ants around here with uncooked grits. They eat the grits and the grits swell up inside them and that kills them. LOL :D

Nothing much happening around here today.
Need to clean the bathroom, should vacuum.
Kitchen is clean.
Looking around in here I see a lot that I want to do but will wait another month before I start my big Autumn cleaning.
With the windows & doors open 24/7 deep cleaning is pointless with all the desert dust/sand always blowing in.
Even the inside of the cupboards & cabinets get dusty.

TTYL :D
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LR2014
Posted: 14 August 2014 - 11:06 AM
Good morning. Wow, great work, diane and Tatoulia! Karl, I hope your Thursday event goes well.

Following up on my goals from yesterday: I only got a little stuff unloaded from my vehicle (in part because of the heat) yesterday, but I did get the other listed goals done. (Yet another box bites the dust! Yea!) As is often the case lately, I got a lot of this work done with the help and encouragement of those who were on the chat. (Thanks.)

I spent much more time yesterday on my financial paperwork than planned. Once I got started on it, I wanted to keep going. This morning, I got outside while it was still cool and worked on getting more things cleared out of my vehicle. Feel good about both of those things.

Hugs to everybody.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 13 August 2014 - 08:25 PM
Today is another day! You did a lot of work today, Diane. For me it was the first day back to work after having friend visit. Luckily I was able to work from home so the transition wasn't too difficult.

I found time to do some more cleaning out of my library closet. Years ago I had California Closets come in and so it has beautiful shelves and filing cabinets for books, paper and china. At some point I can go thru filing drawers and probably reduce papers by 70%. Maybe I will do this weekend.

Meanwhile I am maintaining. Wiping, vacuuming, etc. I am using the tips my friend gave me. I am finally at a point where someone off the street come in for a cup of tea. It's a fragile state. Could be gone, no exaggeration, in a week. I will maintain and continue to purge.

Thanks for everyone's help. Have been reading other and older posts and am gaining strength. I'm creating a daily and weekly to do list.

Wishing everyone a goodnight
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diane
Posted: 13 August 2014 - 07:06 PM
Thanks everyone, today is a new day. Got up and worked in big bedroom for 2 hours, goat trail is now 2 feet wider. Had to see some progress today. Did all dishes. Threw away steamed spinach and a whole cooked chicken that were too old, wiped inside of fridge. Washed those pans. Gathered enough stuff to fill the garbage cart. Put donations in car. Cleaned up all the clutter in entrance from roofing. hung up all wet towels and rugs in walkway. Cleaned up some stuff on deck.
27,000 lightning strikes in past 24 hours in NW, 127 in last 1/2 hour here. Rain will start again soon so will go get towels in.
Found a huge ant mound i n back yard when cleaning up that area, sprayed and sprayed, we are talking a village of ants in just plain dirt. Empty can in garbage. Will spray more tomorrow after rain. Wind is really picking up, guess I will sign off and go get towels etc. Thanks again for all the support.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 13 August 2014 - 10:26 AM
Hello LR! Sorry I had to leave chat last night. Would have loved to chat with you! Sounds like you've done a great job setting your goals for today. Don't you just love the "one box down" feeling? I swear if it's in a box it's much more satisfying then "one blobby pile down". Although that's a great feeling too! Sending everyone lots of love and encouragement.
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LR2014
Posted: 13 August 2014 - 10:19 AM
Good morning. Tillie, I love it that you "make friends" with so many little creatures! Hope today is a much better day, diane! Tatoulia, working on all the new habits sounds great! Karl, good luck with your work today.

I have a lot of tasks to get done today, beginning with unloading things from my vehicle that I didn't unload last night (things I'd loaded for a trip to that rural area). I may show up in the chat room off and on today as I'm working on today's tasks. Some other goals include spending at least fifteen minutes on paperwork, adding to my gratitude list, and going through at least one more box to see what's in it that I can get rid of.

Hugs.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 13 August 2014 - 10:03 AM
Good morning, Tillie!

No watering needed here--raining cats and dogs! Just started on Round 2 of my library closet. Goodbye CDs. Take care! Am keeping up with no dishes in sink and folding and putting away laundry. I once saw something re how long it takes for something to be a habit. I am going to keep up with this. I need new good habits!
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Tillie
Posted: 13 August 2014 - 09:56 AM
Good Morning Everybody :)

Doing some watering this morning.
Monday "Cobby" my little corn snake was out there helping me.
He was getting in my way and I would have to wait till he slowly moved so I could get to where I wanted to go.
Last summer he was always laying on the door mat in front of the door and I would have to be careful not to step on him.
He will probably show up again today when it warms up a little more. :)


always look on the bright side of life
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Tatoulia
Posted: 13 August 2014 - 08:13 AM
Diane, I truly understand your hopelessness right now. I think we've all experienced the feeling of "why bother" and "what's the point." Somehow you will find the point. What works for me is I set a limit on it. I tell myself that I can cry for another half hour or I do the reverse, and say, I'm going to push it out of my mind til noon. And then as the day goes on I'll give myself another round of tears, sadness and ruminating. I know this is pretty simplistic for complex feelings but let me know if you try it.

Such a struggle, this life. I can speak for everybody here when I say that you are wonderful, helpful, inspiring and a good friend. I'm even being so bold as to speak for Nellie right now!

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Karl
Posted: 13 August 2014 - 05:36 AM
During tonight's chat I observed that I have an unusually busy week, with events on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. My usual Wednesday event ride has let me know that he probably won't be able to make it again -- last week I used the opportunity to visit a different group, but this time I'll probably just stay home. Thursday is a long bicycling run (10 miles each way, probably with a few extra stops). Friday was going to be another of those opportunities to combine multiple locations using a bus pass, but I've just gotten a ride offer, so I'll skip the other stuff and do only the games event this time. For Saturday's event I'm hoping for a ride, but will take public transportation if I don't find one.

I've been good at getting other errands done, but haven't done much decluttering, and I've been careless about putting stuff away. Maybe I can take care of some of that on Wednesday.
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