| Tillie | Posted: 19 May 2014 - 09:54 AM |
Lets see if a new thread will help solve some of the posting issues we have developed in the first, long running thread 😀 | |
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| Tatoulia | Posted: 19 January 2015 - 05:45 PM |
Hello everyone! Tillie I started a post this AM but then my lunch dates (friend and her toddler son) were outside and ready for lunch. I did nothing yesterday--lived like a cat--slept til nearly noon (when did I become this person) and after tea and toast I went back to bed. Snoozed, watched movies in Netflix, etc. finally got up yet didn't shower and get out if the house til 8:30 PM. Went over to mom's and was with her as football game finished up. I changed her sheets got her and picked up a little here and there. Bitsy, thank you for your kind words. I appreciate your support and wisdom while trying to help mom. I think you'll be eased to know that she and her social workers got the organizers in their own and they did not tell me. Her apt is so pretty and I took some more donations out last night. Mom sleeps rarely so I stayed til about 11 PM, when the BF stopped by to get me. Celeste, good to see you posting. I'm generally reading and posting from iPhone and couldn't read the lighter green print. I hope all is well with you. Nice newsy post, Mel. My goodness a lot of change for you. You are doing great. Dianne, I didn't post all weekend because I didn't do anything around the house.... Til today! I shredded a bag of my brother's papers which I had planned to do but hadn't. I also shredded a bunch of my own and swept up living room and vacuumed living room and den. Tillie, I am so sorry you've been sick. I've been pretty healthy this year but after dr's appt last week I am on new meds and I dizzy. And having trouble adjusting. Right now I just feel weird and I think I'd prefer the dizziness. I think this will all pass very soon. Today was holiday at work so nice to have a 3-day weekend. And I am pleased with working on house. I have much less stuff, but I let stuff pile up on the floor and it drives me nuts. I have to still reduce and need help figuring out what else to get rid of. I never followed through with idea of removing everything from bedroom and deciding what goes back. I need to do this. I need to further reduce. I'm good about not getting new stuff, and I go have empty shelf and closet space, but I know I need to do more. Will take all suggestions and hints and ideas. I want to go to next level. Missing you all. | |
| Dianne | Posted: 19 January 2015 - 11:42 AM |
Tillie, I think what happens is people just move on periodically. Some newcomers drop by but don't stick around. Some regulars get to a point where real life takes up their time. And what is bittersweet is when people who have been very involved finally reach goals and don't need to post as often as they used to. We miss their frequent updates but can be very happy that they can now live lives in the real world that they were striving for. Glad you're feeling better and can get some things done today. Bitsy thanks for the kind words. Take good care my friend. Celeste, I hear you about the laundry! It's a never ending project in this house. I read your response to Arron regarding schizophrenia. It was exceptional advice from a very personal point of view as well as sounding professional. Your opinion about revealing the son's death was perfect. I'm sure Arron was able to find a lot of understanding and comfort from your post. Mel, I love reading your long updates!! I'm so happy that you are reaping the successes of all your hard work! Hope all went well with the *parent meet*. Sometimes kitties decide not to like someone despite all good attempts. After living and working with over a hundred cats throughout my life I've found that with some it can take literally years before they come to a completely comfortable place. That's not to say you can't live in harmony. But acceptance and love will be on his timetable. I'm glad mama kitty is sweet to you. 🙂 Continue to live a wonderful, balanced life! | |
| Tillie | Posted: 19 January 2015 - 09:32 AM |
Good morning Looks like the Zombie Apocalypse must have happened while I was away. 🙁 None of my weekend plans got done. Been too sick to get out of bed. Checked into Sunday night online support group last evening and it was the same thing.... | |
| Mel99 | Posted: 17 January 2015 - 10:27 AM |
Hello all, hope everyone is doing well and having a productive weekend! LR, hope the move went/is going smoothly! Congratulations!! Tillie, good for you working on will and advanced directives! We went through the process last year of doing all the paperwork with my folks, including setting up a trust. It was a lot of work (and since they set up a trust, it was pretty expensive) but I feel good knowing that they have all the appropriate paperwork completed, that everything has been decided and written down, and if something were to happen, we don't have to worry about it. Also, happy belated birthday! Diane, great idea to plus the computer into the tv! I'm running on an old laptop myself and last year I spilled water on it. The keyboard doesn't work properly anymore so I decided rather than trying to figure out if I could afford to buy a new laptop, I would just get an external keyboard. It's a little frustrating at times but way cheaper than a new computer! Dianne, really nice thoughts on life lessons. When I was young, I was picked on, teased, and bullied for many years. I think about that kind of thing a lot. I might post about that separately because my posts are always so enormous even without that 🙂 But I will share my thoughts. Tatoulia, congratulations about your mom! And good job working on all that shredding! Celeste, good luck with the folding! Are your kids old enough to help out? I haven't had time to post recently, tho I have been reading peoples' posts. On the fun side, it was my birthday week this week and I've had lots of fun celebrating. On the not-fun side, there were a series of layoffs at my workplace, and my boss, who was very high up in the company and had been there for 20 years, got fired unexpectedly. We have a newish CEO (been there for a little over a year) and he's been cleaning house since he got here, but since she had made it so long we thought she might be OK. I already had a good working relationship with the person I am now reporting to. He "inherited" several people from the department i've been associated with, and he told me that the person he was most excited to work with was me, so at least I feel like that's a positive thing. Still, it's a huge change, plus I had been working with my boss for 7 years and we had a really good relationship, so I was very sad for her as well. My boyfriend is taking a couple more classes (he's done with his "core" classes but has a couple of electives to finish up before he graduates in June) so we haven't been doing a lot of cleaning. I've been doing my best to keep up with my stuff, and he shredded three full banker boxes worth of stuff in the past week. Since he's the one who usually gets the cleaning moving, we haven't made a ton of progress in the past couple weeks. However, he did previously finish cleaning out the second bedroom, which was amazing. I can't remember when the room was so clean. He even organized a ton of my CDs into alphabetized stacks. I had major anxiety when he threw out the stuff he had shredded - I didn't think he mixed it up enough, he didn't add yucky fluids to the bags, etc. I know I'm probably being way overly paranoid about it but I've known people who had nightmares with identity theft and it just scares me. I've worked really really hard to build up my credit, and it's not perfect, but it's not bad. I'm sort of getting adjusted to living with the kitties. The boy kitty does not like me at all, but only shows his displeasure with me if my boyfriend is not around, hissing at me, swatting at me as I walk by, etc. I've tried feeding him, giving him treats, petting him, playing with him - nothing works. The mama kitty is sweet to me and I like her. Unfortunately the kitties aren't keeping the mice out. Or maybe (hopefully) it's just one. We have a "bread drawer" in the kitchen where we store all our bread products. Last week I bought my favorite bread and a few days later I discovered it had been chewed on. I moved all the other bread out of the drawer and put a small trap in there. So far no luck. I don't really have a lot of options. I can't put poison out at all with the cats around (plus I wouldn't want to put poison so close to our food), and I have a trap in the drawer but it's not catching anything. Do I get more traps? Even those I'd have to keep in the drawers since I don't want to hurt the kitties. Thankfully the bread appears to be the only thing being eaten. It even left alone a bag of candies and a different bag of bread. Today I am planning a trip to the library, possibly taking a friend out to eat, and spending some nice quality time with my boyfriend. Tomorrow his parents are taking us and my parents to breakfast. It will be the first time our parents will meet, so it's a little exciting and scary. My sister dislikes my boyfriend so I'm a little worried my mom will say something about that (I love her but she often puts her foot in her mouth when she's nervous about meeting new people). My dad has parkinson's and alzheimers, so if he's having a bad day tomorrow they're going to stay home. I would like them to meet so I'm hoping he'll be doing ok. Sorry for always babbling on and on. I hope everyone has a great weekend! | |
| Celeste | Posted: 17 January 2015 - 07:32 AM |
Also, Does anyone know if there's maybe a system update or something going on? I have been trying to connect into group chat, to see if anyone's up for a little buddy session today, to motivate me to task. I haven't been able to connect, either phone or computer. Just says says "connecting" for the guest sign-in. Thanks for any feedback. | |
| Celeste | Posted: 17 January 2015 - 07:26 AM |
Hello all, I hope to tackle some folding of clothes. I have more bagged up clean laundry than I can count...seriously. I then hope, although ambitious, to bag up dirty laundry with all the empty bags. I could do a load of laundry for 365 days just to tackle it, however, all the new dirty would just collect. Soooo...one load drying and another in the washer. The hardest part is putting away the clean before someone knocks it over, and pets lay on it or kids step on it, then it has to be washed anew...again. Maybe I can pack away summer clothes before the season changes, for the 10th year in a row!So that is my plan for today! 🙂 | |
| bitsy | Posted: 16 January 2015 - 08:35 PM |
Dianne, | |
| bitsy | Posted: 16 January 2015 - 08:17 PM |
Tat, | |
| Tillie | Posted: 16 January 2015 - 11:22 AM |
Good morning 🙂 Friday, again. January has no special dates for me. My one big plan for this weekend is to get outside and make a huge bonfire. TTYL 🙂 | |
| Dianne | Posted: 15 January 2015 - 02:49 PM |
I don't get Netflix so no Hoarders for me. 🙁 Good for you Tat, shredding papers. I just trash them and figure nobody is going to steal my identity because then they would really have bad credit! 😀 Yes Tillie, I never give myself credit for making the best decision I could at the time. It's very natural for me to berate myself especially with 20/20 hindsight. I always think I SHOULD HAVE been smarter, more observant, not so emotional, whatever. Even knowing the shoulda/woulda/coulda syndrome is pointless and detrimental it's deeply rooted. I rarely have the lightness of spirit to say c'est la vie. It's a very good perspective though. 🙂 Today I've been working on laundry again. Those doggies in and out with the melting snow, what a mess! And scrubbing floors. Little Christmas trees are still up. I don't turn on the lights because they are so dry. Really need to get those babies down. | |
| Tillie | Posted: 15 January 2015 - 12:31 PM |
WTG! Tatoulia 😀 Hoarders episodes can be very motivating. HI LR2014 🙂 Hi Diane 🙂 Dianne, 🙂 | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 14 January 2015 - 05:18 PM |
Woo hoo is right! I will watch tonight as I shred my papers. Making some decent progress on the trunk of my car, Tillie! | |
| Tillie | Posted: 14 January 2015 - 10:53 AM |
WOOHOO!!!!! Netflix has "HOARDERS" available again!!! 😀 Season one, 15 episodes. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 14 January 2015 - 09:29 AM |
Tillie, thank you for your thoughtful post. It sounds like you are taking stock of your life so far and taking a look at your future. When I turned 50, I had a bit of a crisis, realizing that I've devoted my life to taking care of others and trying to fill their needs. That was very sad to me, but I put the energy into purging my hoard--I was keeping so many things for just in case and buying duplicates in the event some one else needed them. I felt I was reclaiming my life by deciding that I will not be a store or a warehouse for some upcoming need for someone. And that's when I found you. I think that it's tough to face the facts of our own mortality and as hard as it can be, it's good that you are mapping out a course for yourself. It feels sad and good, all at the same time. Diane, good for you figuring out the TV/monitor situation. LR, you are doing it! Sending you hugs and strength! Dianne, thank you for sharing so much of yourself. I take great strength from everyone here. Thank you. | |
| Dianne | Posted: 14 January 2015 - 08:38 AM |
Hey LR, it's good to hear from you! Congratulations on your move tomorrow! You've worked very hard to get to this point. How long do expect to stay with your friends? | |
| LR2014 | Posted: 14 January 2015 - 07:22 AM |
Hi, everybody. Here's a quick checkin. I've been packing boxes, labeling boxes, (donating and tossing . . . but not in mass quantities), packing boxes, labeling boxes, etc. Trying to get moved out of my place this week (hopefully by the end of the day tomorrow, if not before). Most things are going to storage and are fitting into a 10x10 space. I myself am going to be staying with some friends for a while. Bye, bye, excess flooding and crazy-level noise! Whoo-hoo!!! (I'm happy.) Thanks for your help and encouragement through this process! Hugs to everybody. | |
| Dianne | Posted: 13 January 2015 - 04:11 PM |
Diane, what a smart idea to try the tv screen with the computer! I look forward to seeing you every day again and hear how you continue to improve your life! How is that good boy, Max? | |
| Dianne | Posted: 13 January 2015 - 04:00 PM |
Tillie, I also have been reevaluating my life. Feeling the age. Unlike you I have many regrets. I think it's natural for some people to wish they had done things differently, made different choices. For me the key has been not to let those regrets continue to haunt me or shape my life. That's a very, very difficult process. I have to work on it every day. Considering that way of thinking has also taught me to consider mistakes I continue to make, learn from them and let them go. Ruminating does no good, especially for someone of my mindset, and is a big factor in regret. I look at baseball players, who after making a really awful, rookie mistake and the intense feeling of agitation they must feel for a moment, hearing the groans of the crowds and knowing the cameras are on their faces to catch the pained expression. And the intense discipline it must take to just knock that moment aside. The is no room in the game at that moment to regret anything. The moment was there, it passed and the next play is just as important. Keep going. Rethink later when the time is appropriate, learn from it, let it go. That's what I try to do now knowing I still have lots of potentially regrettable mistakes to be made in life. I also, like everyone person, have had disappointments in what some people have done deliberately to me. Some of those things have been devastating causing me much upheaval in my life, destroying my trust, crushing my spirit. That has been a tremendous source of growth for me as well as the initial pain. Through it I have learned that everyone suffers in ways that others cannot understand. I have learned compassion and that it is a source of regret (again another lesson) when it occurs to me that I have caused the same horrible disappointments in others. Yes, some deliberately. And it teaches me to forgive all those who have hurt me. Even deliberately. Maybe I had done something to make them want to hurt me. Maybe they were just mean. Maybe they were reacting to something else and I was in the line of fire. I've always taught my kids that if a dog bites he had a reason. We may not understand it but it made sense in his mind. How could I not extend that same consideration to a human? I may not put myself in a position to be hurt again but I do forgive and pray that the thorns in their lives will slide out relieving their pain. And if the opportunity arises that the person who caused the pain wants reconciliation I am willing to go there fully with them. My dear sister-in-law has blown me away with the lessons of forgiveness and love she lives in her life. Your thoughts on time and enjoyment are spot on. I see more and more people, as they age to be sure, recognizing and living with those ideals. When my brother became aware that his time was going to be cut short the important things in life became crystal clear. I will be forever grateful that my father had a will and advanced directives in place. It is a final gift to those we love. I need to get that done too. I would love to hear others' thoughts on life lessons. In addition to having a space to share hoarding issues this board has allowed me to learn a great deal about myself in many areas. Putting things into writing helps tremendously. Much love and peace and thanks to all of you ~~ | |
| Diane | Posted: 13 January 2015 - 12:12 PM |
Good morning | |
| Tillie | Posted: 13 January 2015 - 10:59 AM |
Good Morning 🙂 Been evaluating my life... Time. What possessions will I be leaving behind? Daily, I am going to make up my will and advance directives. TTYL 🙂 | |
| Dianne | Posted: 13 January 2015 - 09:37 AM |
Yes Tat we all are more fortunate than we might realize. Even in the worst circumstances just the ability to close our eyes and imagine better is something to be thankful for. May Hope touch everyone's heart today and bring a smile. 🙂 | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 12 January 2015 - 04:25 PM |
Oh boy. Both of your daughters sound like wonderful, caring and dear people. Ultimately, even with illness and health problems and hoarding and everything else, we are all so fortunate. Hope and friendship, I heard someone say once, are the true miracles. You are doing a great job on everything. | |
| Dianne | Posted: 12 January 2015 - 04:22 PM |
Oh my gosh Tat no!! I just saw your other post. It's a sad joke that I am definitely going downhill. Three times I've gotten out of my car, shut the door, reached in my pocket for the key to lock it and realized the key was still in the ignition and the car still running. 🙁 At Christmas my nephew was telling us about the girl he plans to marry (she lives out of state and not everyone has met her) and I turned to my sister-in-law (his mother) and opened my mouth to say, "Oh have you met Dana, she is the nicest person." and then remembered, DUH of course, she stayed with them. I told her the slip that almost came out and we all laughed. I used to be an excellent speller. Now I find I *lose* my words and can't quite remember what they mean. If I really need to remember something Laura comes with me. I watched my father and brother who passed away go thru some dementia and it terrified them. Both were very, very smart and losing parts of their minds was awful for them. I have no pride in that area as I am not the sharpest tool in the shed so I can laugh at my mistakes. But a time is coming soon (like with the cars) that's it's not going to be so funny. So dear sister/daughter you are certainly not pesky or jerky! You have earned the right to give advice and I always look forward to hearing it. Will I follow it? Hmm.......I may need some prodding! 😀 And Tat I wish there were private messages here but since there aren't I have to just post it ~ I really do appreciate you responding to me. {{{hugs}}} | |
| Dianne | Posted: 12 January 2015 - 03:52 PM |
Tat, my married daughter feels the exact same way. She would have some help but decisions and caregiving will fall to her. With her son facing the prospect of more surgery for cp she doesn't need any surprises or added stress from a stubborn mother. I'm so sorry you had to deal with the trauma your brother suffered at the same time as your mother's move. It must have been very reassuring to know that your mother was being looked after so you could devote your time to your brother. And you're completely right as to how this will affect Laura. She has always lived here and hopes she can die here. The animals are a big issue. Our beloved German Shepherd has been going downhill and he and his deceased brother were companions and helpers for her. I can't take on another one. But Laura found a breeder who is actually closer to where we would move that gives a guarantee that should the owner not be able to keep the dog for any reason during its lifetime they will take him back. She adores the smaller dogs and cats but she considers the big fierce dogs her protectors. We had a bad break-in here and another time I was attacked. That's when I found those two who needed homes and the big boys were very comforting to have around. A couple times when my son-in-law was travelling my daughter asked if I could leave one of the shepherds with her as their house is semi-rural as well. It would definitely be better if I could ease Laura into a situation of living with other people before I'm gone. That's always been my plan but like so many other things I kept putting it off. Lots of food for thought here. Thanks Tat! | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 12 January 2015 - 03:20 PM |
Not meant to be offensive--not suggesting you will go downhill. Forgive me, I didn't express myself well. Please, Dianne, we all know what a pesky jerky sister I can be! | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 12 January 2015 - 03:13 PM |
Dianne, my only advice is to make your decision before you need to. I figure that any move will be unsettling for your eldest daughter, so if you can make the decision before you go downhill, it will be better for her on the long run. She will already be settled in her sister's place. With my mother I kept begging her to make the decision before she needed it, so she could have input and choices and at a time that would be convenient for me--as I am the one on whom all this falls. One issue I had was her move date was the 15th and she had her place til the 30th. So she wasn't packed or ready or cooperative with the movers, and I still had to fight and argue and cajole for 25 more days with her. Couple that with my brother was found unconscious and in a pool of blood the night before the move, and no one knew what happened. It was a mess. Frankly, I thought the timing ended up perfect, because during the terrible weeks of brother on hospital (stroke) she was living where they were feeding her three times a day. This is food for thought as you consider the offer and as you think about the timing of any potential next steps. French books were well received! Thank you for remembering! | |
| Dianne | Posted: 12 January 2015 - 11:07 AM |
Thank you for that advice Tat. You sound just like my daughter. (But wait, I thought you and I were sisters!) Oh well the family dynamics are there. 🙂 My brothers and I knew with our dad that he was so entrenched in his home that the only way he was leaving it would be in an ambulance after a fall or in a body bag. Some rooms were hoarded in that nicely stacked collections way. He was a fascinating man, a history buff and world traveler. Also a tough New Englander and a decorated Marine. No living with the kids or assisted living for him. After a fall and a hospital visit I asked that he be admitted. I just wanted a couple nights to sleep knowing he was safe. It was a three month slide from there to death. some of it was probably age but some of it was that he just gave up. When he died, very peacefully with much forgiveness and expressed love all around us kids found out how well Dad had really taken care of everything. A while ago on this board I wrote of the discoveries we made, the humbling, awe inspiring military funeral he had, the amount of people who honored him from far away and how easily things went with settling his estate. My new goal became To Die Well. I need to revisit that goal. To do things before I *need to*. I detailed what an amazing opportunity my one daughter and I were being offered in moving in with my younger daughter's family to put down in writing how foolish it would be for me to turn that down. Like I know my father would have flourished in the company of his peers in the facilities we wanted him to move too. So what is it in some people that they would choose their own increasingly not-so-good living space to an opportunity for better? And even stranger, knowing they will be happy in the new place but still resisting? Lots of other things in my life that I have been avoiding are all conspiring to make me get my head out of the sand and make some deeper changes not just my dehoarding ones. I really appreciate hearing about your mom's journey Tat, thanks! Also how did your boyfriend like the childhood books written in French that you gave him for Christmas? And *lushing* an idea on someone might not be such a bad idea! 😀 | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 12 January 2015 - 08:55 AM |
Push not lush. Sorry! | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 12 January 2015 - 08:41 AM |
Dianne, you do have much to think about and change is hard. My mother had a beautiful condo on a beautiful building in a nice area. I live right in the city. I watched some developers take an eyesore of an empty lot and turn it into a lovely assisted living facility. I would gently tell my mom wouldn't it be great if you lived there. When she was 74 I started to lush the idea. I noticed she was no longer going to concerts or other activities downtown. I had her in there just befits she turned 75. Now she's a few city blocks from my house and my BF is a few blocks past that. The ckeanouf of her condo was terrible-- it was very pretty and for the most part okay, but getting rid of stacks of magazines and books etc was a terrible struggle. My reasoning to get her into assisted living was to do it before she needed it. And now she will say she's glad she did. She was still driving for another year or two, and she was able to ease into it while still active. It's tough looking to the future, when big decisions need to be made. Rest up today. | |
| Dianne | Posted: 12 January 2015 - 05:00 AM |
I lost that last post and had to rewrite it. One of the things I forgot to rewrite was that Tat, you are such a wonderful support for your mother and your brother and they are so blessed to have you! I am very blessed too with a wonderful family. Like your mother and brother have opened themselves to your loving care and help I'm thinking it's time for me to seriously consider doing the same. We get so settled in our ruts and are so resistant to change not even able to recognize how nice those changes could be. Whether the changes are small or huge there comes a time to let go and accept the help that's offered to us. Easier said or written than done. I really, really need to do more work on myself. | |