WHY DO YOU HOARD?

Why Do You Hoard?
Lynn S
Posted: 12 April 2013 - 09:12 PM
 

I don't know how to start a topic since it is my first time but I'm willing to talk about my mother.

My mother suffers from PTSD and OCD. Hoarding/cluttering for her is hereditery. Both her mother and grandmother have hoarded.
She has had a house fire caused by a lit bottle on fire(arson)which caused her to lose everything and damage a photo album of hers. Because of that she doesn't want to ever lose everything again.
She was married to a drinker so she keeps liquor bottles and buys more empty liquor bottles to be a reminder of him.
More recently due to the loss of her sister then her mother she wants to keep all of or almost all of what they had I guess because of the fear of losing the memory of them. Storing her late sister's items in the storage locker and never going over there. Replacing items or buying items for her sister for things that she can not have might make her feel better. It might replace the feeling of loss.
My mom said that because she can't get photos of her mother, she insists of replacing and keeping things that she does not have room for or any place to store them.
She keeps postponed crafts because she plans to do the crafts when she retires. Bags and bags of scrap material and non-scrap material.
She keeps planning on what she would like to do for the backyard and those things are still in the original boxes. As a 10yr old I had to beg her not to get me any more toys because I realized toys in and not out very quickly take up space.
She still insists on getting me things today and says to me " You don't like it when I get you things so I'll get things for your sister." Still no one in one out rule for her. Her view is buy to help me feel comfortable, safe, peace of mind, satisfactory. She doesn't want to face her fear of shame,embarrasment,guilt,sadness if someone would ever help her.
She does admit the problem but does not admit that she wants any help.

 

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Kara
Posted: 30 May 2013 - 12:44 PM
 

Hi everyone,
I made a new discovery today.

I am a graphic designer by trade and last year I graduated. This year (apart from realising I had a hoarding problem) I went back to see this years degree show at the local college.

There were only 2 person work I liked. Both were fashion designers and both had neat, precise, and colourful clean pieces to show. The rest of the students showed experimental crinkly, beige, pieces and lost any insight into the theme of their work.

Maybe that tells me about myself. I DON'T LIKE MESS!! This means I am a minimalist. Hence why I get depressed when I see my hoard.

Look at other peoples work I ask yourself: WHY DO I LIKE IT? WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT ME?

 
Roxie
Posted: 30 May 2013 - 07:59 AM
 

Gabbie, I hope you'll continue to post on these boards, and read. I think you'll find it helps you get unstuck. Do 15 minutes a day of cleaning and/or sorting. See if you can manage that?

 
Tillie
Posted: 21 May 2013 - 06:21 PM
 

Welcome Gabbie 🙂

 
Gabbie
Posted: 21 May 2013 - 05:20 PM
 


Hi - I'm new here - Good to share!

I obviously don't have the answer to the why, however, I thought I start by joining the conversation to possible get some answers.

A few months back went to mom's where I have most of my storage boxes. Didn't take long for me to come to the realization that I had A PROBLEM with accumulation - not everything, but paperwork, receipts, unopened mail. YES, I have about 15 boxes full of it.

Determined to fix the problem....I brought 4 boxes home, began working on it - off and on - about 3 days, then totally stopped.

Which let me to see and accept, how strong the aversion to even getting close TO HANDLE THE PROBLEM.

That's my starting point....I hope together we could grow from here.

Blessings

 
Tillie
Posted: 29 April 2013 - 08:55 AM
 

Hi LostWorldWoman 🙂

Sorry to hear you have no help.
Many people's homes fall into squalor when they get sick and can't clean.
Things don't get taken out any more and the dust all builds up around them.

Welcome to the message board. 🙂

 
Lostworldwoman
Posted: 28 April 2013 - 12:34 PM
 

I can't decide if my house is a hoarding problem or just a huge clutter problem. I became so ill years ago, that I was unable to contine working a very physical job that I loved. The same one that my husband had and yet I did the household chores as well.
My husband, who isn't exactly empathetic, promised me things wold be fine when I retired with a small pension and his income. And it was, for a few years. Then I began to have other physical problems and was unable to keep up with the house chores.
Of course my husband thinks that's my job and complains now that he now does everything. Well if that were true I wouldn't be writing this. He would take my things, and with no organization skills, throw all my things together in a box that I can't find for years!
He thinks I am being picky and refuses to help anymore. He just pushes things aside or back.
I told him I grew up with a father who was so anal retentive that he would be angry if he found my shoes or homework, whatever, some place he felt it didn't belong and throw it in the trash.
I would be out at the street digging through the cans looking for my things. And it was embarrassing.

Yet despite knowing this, my husband acts resentful that our home isn't like his mothers, on whose floor you could eat a meal on, such are her cleaning skills.
He obviously resents my poor health and now hold our money which he calls "his" money, over my head and he does whatever he wants.
He blames everything on me and that sends me down into a spiral of despair.
I am too embarrassed to let anyone come over because of the dust and dog hair. There are also some things like my art equipment stacked up and it just seems overwhelming with no help.
I have tried talking to my therapist about it, but he seems to refuse to believe that it could be that bad. I feel if it's enough to upset me then it's that bad,

 
Dianne
Posted: 14 April 2013 - 12:00 PM
 

I guess most of could write a book about why we hoard. And although each individual is unique probably most of our reasons are the same. Bottom line ~ loss and fear. I don't think I've ever read of anyone who hoards out of greed.

I grew up in a multi-generational family. We had absolutely no extra space for storage. Everything was basic ~ 1 pair of brown shoes, 1 coat, 1 bathing suit, etc. There never seemed to be enough food. The kids had to fill up on bread. And we weren't poor. All the houses had 1 tiny bathroom, shared bedrooms, 1 car, no garages. Clothes were mended and passed to the next child. Same with toys. That was just the way life was back then.

I was always afraid that my favorite things would disappear. When I began earning a little money I would buy cheese and try to hide it. Somebody would find it and eat it.

Life got crazier and the alcoholism in the adults got worse. The kids got into rebellious 60's mode and the house got crappy. Everyone checked out, gave up. My Dad, a Marine, tried to make us eat k-rations in puke green tins that was years old to save money. I've blocked out whole chunks of my life.

In my need to get out I eventually married a guy and we lived with very little except my ever present animals. We rented a tiny farmhouse for $25 a month. With hard work we got wealthy. Enough that I was able to buy and keep what I wanted. My dream as a kid was to have red shoes that were good for nothing except that I wanted them and to always have real Coke (the drink) in the house.

We provided extremely well for our children and I had enough space to save everything. I adored being a mom and kept every little thing that reminded me of those wonderful times. I still have their umbilical cord stumps. It wasn't all good of course but mostly life was abundant.

I never wanted as much in life as my husband did. He wanted to keep moving up and I was very content to keep our little estate the way it was. You can only use so much. And we had a ton. Well more like tons plural.

Eventually came the most devastating divorce ~ one family wasn't enough, he was supporting two. To survive those horrible years getting untangled I started *jumbling*. A mental trick I use to forget details. I was suicidal, my younger daughter was suicidal, my disabled daughter regressed into an even further child-like state.

Life continued downhill ~ financials problems, physical problems with no hospitalization to help, rape, terrible betrayals, loss of friends, isolation from family.

My superb organization crashed and grew into a huge hoard. It doesn't look so terrible (well it probably does but not to me of course) because I still have the space to hold it. And still have space to function with my disabled daughter and 16 animals.

So why do I hoard? My life story isn't near as hard as others but it was hard enough for me. I fear loss to the point of physical sickness. I have always needed security and desperately grasp at whatever I think will keep me safe. I miss what I used to have ~ looking at the precious outfits my kids wore puts a smile on my face. People are not to be trusted completely ~ ever ~ sadly not even me to myself.

Writing this sucks. I have been trying to keep my focus on the present ~ what I have to be grateful for, which is a huge amount. Trying to get the beauty back in my life. Trying to become someone who my kids and grandkids will be proud of.

I have to say I hold no grudges (the majority of days now) toward anyone in my life. My family was dysfunctional but they did the best they could in the circumstances. It has helped to get older and understand things from a different perspective. Although I miss my intact family terribly I am accepting my faults in the destruction of my marriage. And I am much kinder to myself in understanding my hoarding issues.

So that's some of it for me. Although there is the weird mental thing I have about everything having some kind of life and my need to protect and care for it.

I was talking to an older woman last week who survived unspeakable horrors during WWII. What a truly lovely, strong woman she is. With her soft hair pinned up, her brightly colored nails, her little companion dog and a little shrug of her thin shoulders and a pretty smile she said, "Oh well, Dianne, that's the way life is. Have you ever seen the full moon rise over the ocean in October? It is so beautiful!"

 
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