Happy Thursday

Tatoulia, I'm glad your mother is going to be okay. And that her kitty has you to take care of her while your mom is recuperating.

Pain, I think throwing everything away is a way to vent frustration and like Tillie said, just do the mental exercise as to what life would be like. Then decide what to keep when in a calm frame of mind. I know calm is probably in short supply in your situation, but your determination is your driving force, so that's something to hang onto.

Weather here yesterday was absolutely marvelous for February - in the upper 70s! And I had been feeling a bit draggy since last week I was all gung-ho to make some progress on my quilt but had set it down and not picked it up. Well, yesterday with the sun and all I felt so energized that I got a bunch done! I rough cut all my sashing strips and photographed my pieced blocks so I can do a mock-up of where they'll go in the quilt. They are from scraps so I must distribute them so there won't be two alike side by side or all the blue ones in one row, etc.

Haven't heard from my social worker lady yet, but it's okay if I don't because wrapping up the month and transitioning into March, Ash Wednesday and Lent beginning, payday bill paying, and prep for our church Bingo with the quilts will keep me busy this week and next. If I haven't heard from her I'll call her after Bingo is over and maybe we can set up something.

In any case I'll have gas in my tank after payday and can go out and do some work in the storage. The paper tossing I did the other day made me feel like a decluttering Ninja! I've decided to try doing a little recycling again. I have a friend who has a bin, and she usually welcomes extra. She lives in the direction of my current storage unit, sort of. I think I'm going to find enough papers and stuff to make it worth my while. It might even make me more willing to part with stuff that I waver on, if I know it's going to be recycled.

From what I hear the weather this weekend is going to be cooler and wetter. I wouldn't mind but it bugs my sinuses and makes my teeth hurt. 🙁 Overall, though, we've gotten so much warm weather this January and February that it may feel like an extended spring. That or we will end up having colder March-April-May, which has been known to happen here.

Tillie I'm glad you are getting snow, too--this unseasonably warm weather here, although lovely, is unsettling.

I had a monkey wrench put in my day yesterday. My dear mother was taken to the hospital and us very ill. I'm at her house right now, keeping her cat company while I work. The cat is not used to being alone.

I will head back over to hospital soon. She sounds better today but has a bit of a road ahead of her.

Good Morning Everybody 🙂

Hi Tatoulia 🙂
Lovely that you are having some warmer weather. 🙂
Hoping that your silver polishing motivates me to do some polishing of my own.
Sorry that your work situation has been so chaotic.
(((HUG)))

Hi Pain 🙂
My neighbor planted a mulberry tree several years ago and now I have two very tall mulberry trees on my property that just naturally planted themselves here.
I grow tomatoes in my garden simply by putting a tomato in my garden and letting it seed it's self.
😀

I had plans for today that involved driving to town.
It's been snowing pretty good since last night and we now have quite a few inches of fresh snow all over everything, including the roads.
I will wait and see if tomorrow the roads are cleared before I go grocery shopping.
But right now it's still snowing very hard.
It's so wonderful to see this normal weather pattern after so many years of drought.
;D

It was nice outside in February. So I picked up the yard. Spent time looking for all the yard equipment . Cut some of the tree back before spring leaves make it a harder to do task.

Since I dont own the home . I only plant mulberry trees. So Ive kept the some seed packs in the freezer. Basically I chew some mulberry slightly and then spit the fruit into toilet paper that I prepared so it's a combination of tissue paper fiber and seeds about 1 inch thick. It always gives me starts. Very easy to get going and I three years I start to get fruit from it and shade.
And sticks for fire starters for the fire pit.

I can't imagine my life with a sail boat on the lake and fire pit in my yard. It's nice to get tomatoes and mulberries so easily .

That was all from a an argument my wife and I had 15 years ago when she decided I spend too much on the boat. A boat I own in full.

So to appease her I reasoned that if I could skip 150 meals a year. That would cover my costs.

Well Im over weight so I practice fasting three days a week. So basically there's 313 skipped meals . Then if I grow 43 meals worth of food in a garden then that's 365. Skipped food money's.

So I don't ever hear it from her anymore.

NSQX2H

Hello all.

Tillie I think it's going to be in the 50s here today.

I made it to work yesterday extra early and it felt good. Today I'm home and having a bit of trouble focusing due to so much chaos at work. But I'll persevere.

Polished some silver. Have dishwasher ready to be run. I'll make something of my day. And then I'll report back.

Good Morning

Hi Pain 🙂
WTG! for sticking to your trash truck day scheduled routine! 😀

Woke up this morning to discover that last night's rain had turned to snow.
This morning the sky is clear blue and the sun shining brightly.
Everything looks so pretty and clean with a freshly fallen layer of snow on it. 😀

Just doing the chores today that revolves around trash truck day.

Fridge,trash can , bathrooms, mop the floors, In Rooms with the trash cans.
Clear car of all trash while bringing the can back.
Pick up all trash in the yard.

Took a long bath after scrubbing toliets

Good Morning Everyone 🙂

Hi Pain 🙂
Glad you are feeling better.
Great that you are planning on having a cleaning service!
A long time ago I had to accept that I would be the only one who ever cleans up around here.
I do it because I want to live in a clean home.
I only ever clean up in his bedroom when he is in the hospital because I feel responsible that he have a more accessible room to recuperate in when he gets back home.

Rained all day yesterday.
Found another rat hole dug to under the house foundation.
Filled the hole with sand but still have not caught the rat.
Need to clean the house today after this last 3 day weekend.
Supposed to rain more this afternoon so no laundry is getting done.
Oh Well....

TTYS 🙂

Feeling better today.
I didn't throw any off or away.
I could of ,but I know I would of regrets it.
I have alot of good stuff. I think I just need to find a space that can keep it all. However I need to manage it vigilantly. Not not like a hoard in the form of an abandoned pile. Bug hoard in the form of a wall of photographed tubs. Whatever cannot fit in the wall or in a place in the house .
Needs to not be apart of my life.

I got through 1 large tub of paper today.
As long as I improve my situation a little bit everyday. A little mess is OK, but alot of mess is unacceptable. I don't like being the only person whom is responsible for the cleanliness of the living spaces. But I just need to complete the cleaning any how.
I have an appointment with a cleaning service.
I asked. *visiting nurse services. For a reference, a week later I got a name . They will be here on Friday.
To be honest I get overwhelmed when I go into their rooms and try to clean as they attack me verbally .it's bullspit. But it has to done. I just trying g to find a away to decrease drama, but maintain healthier level of cleanliness...

I know it's just anxiety. Not good at working through it slowly like with CBT.

I usually just stop . And avoid the triggers .
But I follow through with revisiting or repairing issues. I see the hoarder in me. Something I'm not comfortable with. I think I need to expand my routine to a monthly routine.

Where I clear then clean my environments once a month. I fear if I don't then I allow things to accumulate in spaces .

So to be clear. My struggle was to get the house clear and cleaned.

But after I accomplished it . Instead of relaxing, I still feel a sense of anxiety about maintaining it. Maintaining all the common areas with bossing everyone around. When I vent I go too far.

I know I make the mood. Of cleaning together a chore rather than a positive or a good time cleaning together. Like I'm forcing everyone to work as hard as I do.

Good Morning Everybody 🙂

Hi Tatoulia 🙂
Wonderful that you took some time off from your other obligations and rested.
(((HUGS)))
Good luck tomorrow with getting to the office early. ;D

Hi Pain 🙂
By tossing everything out you were then able to truly see how you felt about having everything gone.
Sometimes it helps to do something radical but also reversible to really get to the bottom of our thoughts and emotions.
One way is to completely remove everything from a room or maybe just a closet, shelf or drawer.
Enjoy the emptiness of the space for a while
then slowly bring back in only the items that you really want in there.

Hi Anonymoniker 🙂
WAY TO GO!!! for your fresh clean yard! 😀

Hi CriticalMass 🙂
There are a LOT of very good videos on Youtube on decluttering.
Everybody who ever wrote a book or worked with hoarders has a Youtube video.
Videos by people who recorded all their steps to declutter their own homes or their parents homes.
Videos of hoarding shows like "Buried Alive" or the 'Hoarder Next door".
Honestly, I have spend way too much time watching videos on Youtube. ;D

Hi again Tatoulia 🙂
You posted while I was composing my post! ;D

Raining pretty good this morning.
Rain predicted for all the next week.
Yesterday I fixed my clothesline T pole and organized/inventoried all the lawn & garden stuff neighbor friends gave me before they moved.
Had that stuff safely stored in the pump house over the Winter.
With all the plant food, bug killer and weed killer my garden will be looking so good this year! 😀

Arg--even further behind today than I was yesterday. I have an hour before picking up mom. I will change my sheets now as I did nothing last night other than shower.

I had a moment of despair.
I started.just throwing it all away.

I kept thinking about what you said earlier ,
About pulling some of it back out of the dump.

I put it all back, I do need to purge, but no need to go complete minimalist.
I kind don't know what I want to do. So I'm just putting it all back and act like today never happened. Just when I think I'm normal . I go and try to throw away everything I've ever owned.

If I had to guess ,I was trying to have control over my situation even though I have very little Control.
Hmm what I needed to do was find a creative outlet.

Hey everyone! Good to hear your progress!

I have done everything but stuff involving the house the last two days. I will shower now then change sheets and keep on shredding stuff. It's good to read everyone's progress!

Tomorrow is a day off. I'll get mom out then relax. I'm trying to psych myself into going into office early in Tuesday/be at my desk by 7. That sounds impossible but I'm going to try. That's a full two hours before I usually arrive.

Getting rid of stuff feels so good. I'm going to maybe help mom tomorrow with that too. We will see if she feels up to it. I don't like to press her where she's so old.

CM, that is really funny you suggesting that particular saying, cuz its the saying his ex he keeps getting back with used a lot...ha ha

Everybody's keeping busy - good energy begets more good energy, looks like!

Read back through posts -

Pain - your planning strategies and progress in carrying them out continue to inspire. I like to plan yet with hoarding it hasn't always been clear how. I think it's a skill that improves with continued practice, though. I seem to be finding it easier. I didn't know there were YouTube videos on decluttering - but then, I don't go on YouTube really often. May have to check those out.

I hope your living situation decision, and move if necessary, go(es) well.

Tatoulia - I like that mantra "I loved it long enough"! My corollary is that if it's not just trash, I'll then bless someone else with it. I think FlyLady said that originally.

We who hoard usually possess creative, innovative minds, therefore we almost always can think of uses for items, in fact we can probably think of many uses the original manufacturer never dreamed of! I love being creative, but it can lead me to hoarding. I either have to dial down the creative part of me when decluttering, or try to redirect it toward coming up with creative strategies for the work at hand. Like Pain's planning, for instance. Channel that energy in a different way.

My beloved Don Aslett the clutter expert in one of his books points out the cost of storing something is usually worse than the cost of replacing it if it turns out we really did need it later.

Anony - glad kitty is recuperating well. Glad too that your heart seems to be mending. Like you said, just do the next step, whether it's in decluttering or moving forward after the breakup. If he tries to draw you into his drama, just say "Not my circus, not my monkeys"!

This morning I did some more on the Box 'O Papers and now there is only a much smaller bag, and I anticipate most of its contents will be recorded and shredded. I filled the ratty old box with sticks from the garden and put it in the dumpster. This afternoon my roommate and I went to do errands and stopped by the storage unit. But I didn't do much. I'd hoped to find a few things I decided to recycle, couldn't find them, grabbed a small sack of other things plus a box to throw away, and decided I'd just wait till I was by myself to do more. It has been a beautiful weather day and I didn't want to make her antsy waiting for me. I was a little disappointed but I'll catch up next time I'm out there. Overall things are going well.

Hey, I've been thinking about Diane. Anyone hear from her lately on another thread? Hope she is well and happy.

Pain, i am really impressed how well you have planned all this out & carried it through! You are amazing!!! 😀
I remembered as i was loading this truck & unloading it at the dump, how its almost like throwing that junk out 3 times! I have to resist pulling stuff back out to keep, which the stuff i did pull out, really was a good call cuz i do need to keep certain types of scrap materials & i am proud of my small pile i kept! The memories are like in triplicate, tho!
My place actually looks better now(outside), than its looked in 20 years! The lush green groundcover will be obnoxious weeds in a few months, but with the areas ive cleaned up & the spring greens, it is gorgeous!!! 😀
~☆~☆♡☆~☆~

I prompted everyone to have a closet purge day.

Remove everything.
Put unwanted items Into trash bags.
Put keepers on the beds.
"I will put it all back in for you."

I don't understand why it's so hard.

I'm spending all day in my daughter and my storage. I'm going to start making the harder decisions.

Another thing is I have a stack of papers 9 foot high. Lol .
OK I have a stack of tubs 9 foot high filled with papers.

I plan to bring 1 tub a day home on Weekdays.
And go through that tub until it is done.
Everyone in the house can participate.
Most of the legal stuff has long past. So it's more just making sure pictures and birth certificate and other irreplaceable papers aren't tossed.

It's a good plan.

I called my go to guys on being ready to move.
Everything seems great.

Moving check list.

Hoard In storage already.

Near by storage with capacity to hold
Couch,dinning room , kitchen, bicycles, lawn mower, air Conditioning.

Three helpers with three trucks to help move bed rooms.

Quick drive-by. Took day off, meaning didn't get together with family as usual. Slept late then got hair cut. Now thinking about my day

Hello to everyone--keep up the good work!

Good Morning Everyone 🙂

Hi Anonymoniker 🙂
WTG! Doing all you have been doing! 😀

Hi Tatoulia 😀
(((HUG)))

Another Drive By

I think the excitement about the storage help is making me motivated, plus I wanted to procrastinate on outdoor work (LOL!), so I opened the box of papers (bills mostly) that's been sitting for months and started going through it. I'd say I'm 1/3 to 1/2 of the way. Got a bag to give to my friend who recycles and a smaller bag of shredding, plus I shredded some. Need to empty the shredder bucket before I can do more.

It also was like an endurance test, because there are lots of papers in the storage unit I'll be doing the same thing with eventually. I think I'll do fine! And if this plan works out to move the storage closer to where I live, I will be able to do it at a steady pace so it gets done but I don't burn out. I won't feel like I have to do a ton in a day or feel guilty about the gasoline to go back and forth. I can just do a small amount, then go back and do more.

I'll do some in the meantime while I'm waiting to hear news, too, because that'll be that much less to fiddle with later.

I feel good! 🙂 🙂 🙂

My plan if I need to move tomorrow.

Completed
The hoard is already able to fit into its own storage unit. Is at discount long term rate.

Active
A second unit is available to me. For temporarily moving the living room, dinning room, and kitchen, bicycles, refrigerator,stove,air Conditioners,tools.
Move these rooms as early as possible. 3pm deadline.

Active
Part three is to assign moving buddies per each individual bedroom.

Wife's moving buddy is her brother in his truck.
Daughters moving buddy is my brother insisting van.
My moving buddy is my nephew in his truck.

This way everyone can focus on their own bedroom space. And move in this guide.
2 hours to pack up and load vehicle.
2 hours to reach destinations
2hours to inlaid vehicles and set up beds and place furniture.
Needs to start by 3pm to finnish by 9pm.

Landlord came today without notice demanding a tour.
I let them in, but I told them they need to give 24hrs notice per the lease. Thing is this is our second property management company. They tried to get me to sign a new lease on the spot. I said nope. And to leave. One guy was big dude and I've never gotten along with he acts like he is a god of maintenance. He was moving furniture away from walls and not putting them back.

Basically they gave us a verbal 30 days if we didn't resign a lease. Daughter graduates by June 1st. So March,April,May. I told them I'm not making any decisions today. I told them they need to make any and all requests in writing.
Worst case scenario. We move by April 1st and have to either transport daughter to school 100 miles or have enroll in a new school. So it's not a preferred situation, but it's not a disaster emergency.
At least we won't need to move the hoard until we're ready to. I can think of four reasons that the property management team should go to hell. But I'm not emotionally attached to this place so I can just deal with it. I know if vent about it wife she'll just get angry at the situation and try to make me feel what she feels in a dysfunctional way.
So I letting her make the decisions. That way she's not fighting me. Like I've said in a earlier post last month. She's hurt me emotionally so many times in so many ways . If today was our last day together I'd be ready to move on tomorrow. I know that sounds cold. But we're a family , we're just parents living together, than husband and wife.
With her being so sick I'm just not going to abandon her. Nor do I want move on. I believe we are better for our daughter to stay together till she graduates high school. But I'm not going to fight what my wife wants to do.

I hear her mother whispering to her and when I make a noise she makes Shh Shh Shh noises. I mean really ? Well it aromatherapy balls are in everyone else's court. I'll have to wait and see what the landlord wants to do. And what my wife wants to do after we find out.
I've been slowly buying things so if we ever separated . Many things are duplicated and some thing in triplicate. .
Is mostly the big contributions to the hoard.
Out fear of starting over with nothing.

I don't like the idea of living in an efficiency apartment that I have throw away everything I have just to live there. Or live within a hoard.

I refuse to share a bedroom with the wife. Hygiene being my issue. We've had separate rooms for ten years. My room is usually filled with tubs of clutter, but her room is filled with laundry and trash.

Well,
Seems the videos were right on the spot!
To be ready for an unexpected purge?
We have to spend time with the hoard to purge in advance of the unexpected.

This was a lesson I learned last year watching YouTube videos about purging a hoard tips and tricks.
The second lesson. I learned from the experience of actually purging my personal and family's hoard.

The storage unit must have the capacity to swallow the entire hoard.- to avoid unstacking and restacking.
I divided the purge into to phases .
Phase 1.
Moving things unpurged to clear living space.
Phase 2.
Separating clutter per individual. Everyone's stuff must be separated from each other.
There stuff needs to be separated into three categories
1 valuables of $20 or more.
2 large items
3 small items

I was lucky to buy small tubs when they where on sale. So the late items could put Into a single layer nothing overlaping. And photographed Into a easy to view slideshow.
And shoe boxes filled with small things in a single layer nothing overlapping. And photographed Into an easy to view slideshow.

Once my living space was cleared and then cleaned.
I only brought back the valuables I wanted to keep.
I set up a way to sell things I dont want to keep.
If they don't sell in a months time I take them to a donations center for tax deductions.

Our hoard is about 1/3 gone.
My personal hoard is 3/4 gone.
I still Scan memories and photograph things I'm emotionally attached to. But I'm trying to purge large things let them go.

Tatoulia, i got to thinking about my regrets of stuff tossed and realized, of the maybe 15 tons of crap that has gone to the dump, it was only maybe 20 items that i regretted! So, looking at it like that, that is not bad at all!!! 😀
Yesterday i collected these 20 year old sheets of fiberglass panels that are horridly crumbling, into the truck & the dang tailgate wouldnt close & it was an aweful mess to try to rearrange them! Every movement i made little glass sparkles went into the air! My arms are all itchy from it getting into my skin! I just know if id gotten my worker-friend-hoarder to take them, hed not have even tried to be careful & itd be everywhere even worse! He is such a mix of help, cuz hes a way worse hoarder than i ever was, and is so happy to take junk loads, so he can go through it & keep stuff,but when it comes to fixing stuff, he insistes on using old crap parts, etc.! At least i now know what to call him for! 😀
I am loving the way it looks out back now! What a difference this past couple weeks has made! ~♡~Love to all!~♡~

Good Morning Everyone 🙂

Cold dark day here, no playing outside today.
Been up and doing lots of little things inside.
Tidying up and putting away and catching up on things I have neglected while I was outside.
Nothing much really, just sorta puttering around.
Another 3 day weekend coming up.
Maybe I'll get a little help fixing my clothes line T poles.

Anybody have plans for the weekend? ;D

Hey Peeps 😀

Wonderful to read all your posts!

Hi Tatoulia 🙂
Wonderful that you don't try to stockpile or save for Justin Case!
Hope you never regret no longer having the diaries.
Remember only the good and positive things and leave the painful memories in the past. (((HUGS)))

Hi CriticalMass 🙂
I make lists too. Some are long lists but most are just a few things jotted down on a post-it note.
So excited about the help you have coming.
Please keep us updated on the developments! (((HUGS)))

Hi Anonymoniker 🙂
Happy Kitty is doing OK 😀
So GREAT that you have that truck and such a positive happy feeling loading it up! (((HUGS)))

Hi Pain 🙂
We all are grateful to have you here with us.
(((HUG)))

Horrible wind storm raged all day.
Some damage around the property. My pretty glass hummingbird feeder is shattered on the ground. 🙁
Will do some clean up next day it's nice out there.
Went to town for some gardening stuff.
Got a small rake and some tree & shrub anti icky bug treatment.
Steer manure still not stocked in the stores.
I'd get it from the Dairy but I don't want a big heap of raw manure dumped straight into the car.
Rather have the bagged stuff in the trunk.
Tumbleweeds rolling everywhere, dust all over everything, including me. LOL 😀

Cm I like your plan of giving your friend the full picture. Very smart idea. She needs to see the totality of the circumstances! Very pleased for you!

Anony, I am happy you have a truck! And I'm impressed by your strength with the Ex. Some people like to be stringing a number of people along at one time. It feeds their ego, it keeps drama going, there's never a dull moment, etc. good show if strength. Yay on kitty doing better!

Oooh I can't remember who said she sometimes feels regret when getting rid of stuff. I am lucky that I haven't experienced that. I know it's pure luck. I loved it long enough is my mantra. If it wasn't necessarily something I loved but something that could be useful, I don't sweat it. The fact that I could figure out a use for it today, now that it's gone, doesn't mean it's actually useful. Also, if say, mom needs something but I've gotten rid of that something, then so be it. I'm not a warehouse for others's future needs. I tell myself these things & im good with it. I'm happier with space.

That said, I do expect that someday I'll regret shredding my diaries. But it needed to be done. And I'm still not finished but def closer to the end.

Pain, we are all down at one point or another. It's impossible not to be. Keep your chin up! You are doing great!

Hellooooo Tillie!

Anyone want to hear how much pain I feel today.
OK that's was silly thing to say. I'm just trying to sleep through it yesterday and today.
I don't go into details anymore unless I'm with my DX. I GUESS is why I pushed so hard while I was feeling up to it. I feel like a rabbit in hole. Just going to work and sleeping.

Yes. I'm big on knowing what the steps are to a goal.

So many times I felt like the more I climbed the mountains of my life the more I got lost on them.

Planning is the the only thing that get me started.
I don't always stick to plan , but it became empowering to discover what I need to do if what I really need is to just get started.

If I don't keep on routine . Years can go by.
I'm so grateful for this site. I know this may seem a little down , but it very good for ,be sure I don't just keep it inside and dwell on it.

CM, WOW!!! IM SO HAPPY FOR YOU! THAT IS WONDERFUL! I know what you mean about lists! They are such an important part of moving forward for me. I have many lists for all kinds of things. Every night i have my list of the 3 things to complete the next day regarding improving my place. Having this rental truck is an amazing feeling! Its just me here doing it. It has a great stereo, so i can listen to music while loading it up with junk! No waiting to hopefully hear from some guy with a truck to show up! Each thing i pick up to put in it is like a lightening of part of the burden on my psyche! It is also such a reminder of how much control i really do have in my life!
My kitty that got in the fight clearly feels a lot better. The fight was a week ago today. I know it could still get worse, so im monitoring him closely.
The ex texted me last night but im not responding. Im in a new place now & it seems clear he wont be changing his love for relationship drama .
Tatoulia, i often hear people not regretting things theyve tossed, but i actually have that happen a lot?! Ive tried to do better at foreseeing what i may need later. Ive dug things back out of my trash/junk pile quite a lot!
Last night i an interesting article on...wow...i dont even remember the subject they gave it, but it suggested 'just do the next step'..that really helped me! Often trying to see the end result is too overwhelming, but knowing the next step is easy & obvious! ~♡~Happy Homes to all!~♡~

Quick drive by

So much to do that I'm still thinking of - my go-to thing is always "Make a List!". 🙂

I'll list anything I think of that I've been wanting to get rid of or change. And what are some criteria for decision making.

Yesterday I called the storage place closer to me and they're having a 1/2 off first month special. I'm wondering if I could squeak the money to do it. We'll see.

When this social worker lady and I make our date to get together for our inspection of the storage, I'm also going to see if she would be willing to come see what I have here at my friend's house, and show her what's in the van as well, because it all needs to be taken into account in planning.

Excited, can't wait to get started!

HIP HIP HOORAY!! So very pleased, CM. You deserve this help and this second set of eyes and hands will do you the world of good. Congratulations! I'm so pleased.

Sending out weather-prayers, Tillie.

For the most part, I've learned to live with the regrets of wasted money. For the most part, buying this or that object meant something to me at the time, it allowed me to recapture a moment, let me recall a simpler time such as being a child visiting my grandparents. The stuff that really irked me was the multiple JustinCase stuff I got rid of a few years back--a habit I have totally broken. I don't Justin Case and I don't stockpile when something is a good price. I buy the one I need and leave the rest right where they are.

I received a Tiffsny silver pen for grad school graduation some 25 years ago. Think I'll polish it up and consign it. Still have the Tiffany box and everything. Never used it and the person who gave it to me is neither here nor there in my life.