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Hoarding Help Message Boards : How to Help a Hoarder : Daughter of a elderly hoarder
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Dianne
Posted: 15 April 2014 - 12:41 PM
Hey Tina,

I am a hoarder. I agree with Tillie that minimizing danger is ok. I've managed to do that in my house pretty much.

If someone had come in while I was gone and done that for me I would have felt extremely embarrassed, violated and angry. But going deeper I probably would have also felt some relief and gratitude that the process had been started.

As far as someone cleaning and clearing everything without my knowledge I would *die*. I can only think of it as ripping out my heart, guts and soul. I wouldn't be able to appreciate anything; I would only be able to focus on all the things I had lost. Not just material things but what losing them signified ~ that what was important to me, what gave me comfort was nothing more than trash in someone else's eyes. That *I* was trash, that my feelings were so easily disregarded, that the cleaner had thought I was incompetent and filthy. I would probably cut that person from my life and my level of trust would be permanently lost.

But my personality really struggles with living positively. I've dealt with clinical depression most of my life and I am VERY change resistant. Losses in my life and the fear of loss can be devastating.

On the other hand your father sounds like a mentally strong guy. Very physically active, intellectually interested in the world and enjoying new things like travelling overseas. He may very well be very open to your help. How did he react the other two times you cleaned for him? If his home is in bad shape again will another clean-up stay that way?

Hoarding is a behavior that needs to be dealt with on a daily basis. Each hoarder is very different. Maybe he deals with his messiness by getting out of the house while some people isolate there.

As a start do what Tillie suggested. Then have ongoing talks with your dad about how much help he wants, will he work with a counselor and will he have professional cleaners in. It sounds like you both have a loving relationship and that goes a long way in giving and receiving help.

All the best to you ~
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Tillie
Posted: 14 April 2014 - 04:31 PM
Hi Tina :)
Hope the others here chime in on this issue.
I am not a hoarding person but I do live with one.
In a situation like this it is alright to "minimize the dangers".
This means it is alright to make sure paths are clear and not in danger of things falling down on him.
Hallways, doorways and access to windows need to be accessable for escape in case of emergencies or for rescue personnel to get inside.
Obvious garbage, rotting food, expired medicines can be thrown out to prevent accidental poisoning.
Things like the stove and water heater must be clear of clutter to prevent fire.
A good book for you to read is "Digging Out", helping your loved one manage clutter, hoarding & compulsive acquiring.
Good luck & best wishes :)
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Tina
Posted: 14 April 2014 - 01:26 PM
HELP! My father is/was a very young 80 y.o. He was still working, working out 3 days a week at the gym, dancing, hiking, etc, but has had a health issue with his eye culminating in a cornea transplant and still dealing with complications.

I had planned to clean up his house or have it done professionally as it's not a safe place for him to come home to and then work with him to get counseling to deal with the root cause of the issue.

Now, I'm re-thinking this. I've done this with him twice before when he was either sick or out of the country on vacation and now I'm reading how much this may damage them psychologically.

Can some of you who have this disorder chime in and tell me how you would act if you were away and when you got back all your stuff was cleaned up or thrown away?
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