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Dianne
Posted: 15 July 2013 - 11:25 AM

Hi Karla,

This hit home with me.

I'm a stuff hoarder with a lot of animals also. Years ago I went from rescue to sanctuary for older/abused/difficult-to-place animals. In order to care for the growing number of animals I quit my paying job with a vet/kennel and made the sanctuary my full time job. I also have an adult daughter with disabilities who lives with me and she is capable of a lot of the care as well.

My house and property are large enough to accommodate dogs and cats in their clean areas but they generally have access to the hoard if they choose. They are all well vetted, licensed, have quality food and bottled water. Their needs come before the needs of my daughter and me.

That being said it's important to keep the emotional needs of the animals in mind as much as the physical. We currently have 9 cats and 7 dogs of varying breeds and size. Each animal needs daily personal interaction. You have to know each animals' stress level and know their normal behavior patterns to recognize when one is slightly off. We know each bark and what the tone means. Maintaining a good emotional balance is vital to the happiness and comfort of each animal.

For my daughter and I we decided several years ago what our limit was and to stay firm with that. As these animals die (our top number was 20) we will not replace. Ideally we will outlive our babies. If not, care and finances have been set in place for any still living.

So I get the mindset of your friend. And if her physical care is very good she sees herself as their best caretaker. But no one can take care of 30 dogs without daily help. Plus it sounds like she is open to taking in more. That's a big negative in her situation.

If the animals are not in obvious distress who would you turn her in to? If there are no laws in your area as to how many dogs she can keep she may be within her rights. She sounds like she's a hoarder but sadly it has to go pretty far into abuse before animals are removed.

Would she be open to starting a non-profit sanctuary? That way she would need others to help. The financial director must be someone who is not a family member by law. A group of volunteers helping her could have some influence.

A friend of mine has made a huge commitment in turning her entire home into a sanctuary. She has many volunteers and also boards dogs to help with finances. Her website is Housewithaheart.com. Maybe you could suggest to your friend that with 30 dogs it would be in her interest to get serious about the business end of it.

If she is just a dog lover/hoarder stay on top of the situation. You can't change her mind but you can take necessary action. IMO 30 chichis with 1 person is way over the line. Good luck and please keep us posted.
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Tillie
Posted: 14 July 2013 - 12:28 PM
Hi Karla :)

http://www.aspca.org/fight-cruelty/animal-hoarding

http://www.ehow.com/how_8104966_animal-hoarder.html

So many animal hoarders hoard the animals because "nobody else can care for them like I do".
The animals are suffering when there are too many for a person to care for and give adequate attention to every day.
I used to do animal rescues too and know my limits and know the animals I placed are happier now in their forever homes.
Please keep the animals in mind when you do decide what action to take. They are helpless without us.

(((HUGS)))

Please keep us posted on what you decide to do.
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Karla B
Posted: 14 July 2013 - 11:51 AM
I have a rescue friend who I believe is hoarding however she argues she is not a hoarder because her house is clean & her animals are all vetted & healthy.

She has almost 30 chihuahuas and maintains she is keeping them all although she took most with the intention of adopting them out. She says no one can take care of them as well as she does.

She spends several hours a day cleaning & taking care of them....I am just at the end of my rope. As the head of a rescue I have had several animals here at once however they were all up for adoption & many were adopted. The intention was never to HAVE tons of dogs here, however when a foster home decides to quit the dog needed a place to go.

She compares herself to me often, but as I said I do not keep animals or feel like no one can take care of them as well as I can.

What's the solution? Turn her in? I just don't know what to do...
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