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Tillie
Posted: 21 February 2019 - 11:58 AM
Good Morning Everybody

What wonderful posts to read!
Great that you all have a new challenge to do together.

The best way for me to sort out, evaluate, declutter a cupboard, shelf or drawer is to remove everything.
Wipe the dust out and then question myself as I put selected items back in.
Moving things around from where they have always been kept gives me a new perspective on them.

I have been able to let so many things that I have owned for decades go as I continue to do my "Swedish Death Cleaning".
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Tatoulia
Posted: 21 February 2019 - 07:15 AM
Cm! Great second post! Thank you! That is very interesting about context. Very wise lesson. I'll combine everyone's ideas and do this so that I have one bag to go to goodwill this weekend. We can do this!
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Tatoulia
Posted: 21 February 2019 - 07:13 AM
Wow SubC! You told someone and she understood! That's great. And she was kind and related. She may not relate to the extent that some of us here can, but honestly, there's a bit of relief to that, too. She gets the busy life, the creative life, etc. I'm pleased.

How are the goats???

I'll do the five minute challenge with you!!


My hoarding took a different path. I'm not terribly creative, so I didn't have tons of supplies for projects. I was more along the lines of buying multiples, buying things on sale THEN finding a use (or not), hoarding books, having stuff in case anyone else needed it, and then keeping anything "sentimental," which meant anything. I love dishes and glassware and stuff like that. I had a few things for projects that I never did but I was able to tell myself, I'm not going to be doing that. So my hoarding was a bit different and although at times it has been painful (that first year was tough), and it still can be painful, I've reached a good spot in my brain. I have to work hard on it, and now I do some of the mental reasoning I've learned from Tillie, which includes, do I need it, will I use it, will I get rid of something else in order to have it, etc.

Speaking of Tille, hello Tillie. Stop by when you can!!

CM I forgot to tell you how proud I am of how well you are doing on your paystub project! We will get through moving some stuff and making decisions. We are here!

I must finish getting ready for work.
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CriticalMass
Posted: 21 February 2019 - 07:00 AM
Tatoulia, I think the idea of doing the drawers one by one is spot on. I can relate to the "stuff blindness" where one looks but does not immediately see.

So if I were to suggest a challenge it would be to pick a drawer and go through it mindfully. Whether that would entail removing some things and lining them up for individual evaluation, or just taking a single item at a time. Whichever way, or some other way, that doesn't overwhelm, yet allows you to cut an item from the herd and deal with it in a focused way.

I recall when I was going to the clutter club and the leader told a story of dealing with her late husband's socks. They had been in a drawer for a period of time after she'd dealt with most of his other clothes. Finally she just felt ready and pulled or dumped them out, and was able to deal with them quickly.

I pointed out that it was at least in part because she had removed them from their old familiar context. Our minds tend to take things for granted as belonging wherever we've stored them, for decades. We get used to looking at the conglomeration as a whole. So it helps to break that mental expectation.

Of course, one must guard against dumping out too much at a time and having it pile up in another spot. That would probably depend on the size of the drawer in question. If it's a larger drawer, do only half, a quarter, whatever's manageable. A box or basket can be a portable staging area yet keep the items contained while you work through them.

I'm generally a person who believes "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." But with our clutter, a different approach is needed, namely, shake things up a bit on purpose to force yourself to see them differently, and take it from there.

You got this! :)
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Subclinical
Posted: 21 February 2019 - 06:45 AM
Yay CM!

It would be great if you stopped by more often, but don't ever feel like you have to keep it short. I love your long interesting posts.

Sorry you've been in the "pits" but how fantastic that you have all that paper cleared out!

I will be excited to hear what happens with your quilt.

I know the stuff in the new van is frustrating. We set high expectations on ourselves and then can feel overwhelmed when things don't go exactly as planned. Just keep working wherever you can, and things will get better.

I have trouble resisting fabric too. My Achilles heel was always the remnant table, and discount Christmas prints. Since I haven't been sewing since my kids moved out, i've been staying out of fabric stores.

That article about the boy was neat. I will never match him!

I think the hoarding/OCD/depression article was documenting co-occurance rather than causation.

I totally understand your desire for a magic decluttering machine! Also the winter blahs. Here is a quick tip - carrying stuff out of your house is exercise test results in fast reduction. ;)

Tatoulia,

Yay for the cleaning fairies!

I don't think you are wasting time sleeping. Each person needs a different amount of sleep, and it is important for your health to get it. I find that when I am exercising more and losing weight, I need more sleep, and if I short myself I stall out on the weight loss.

I think it is cool that you and your BF have friends all over the world!

I have been doing a "five minute February" challenge on another site, but everybody pretty much dropped out and I skipped the last 3 days. If you want to join me for this last week, maybe I will get remotivated.

I am spending five minutes every day on my garage (except instead of timing, I am doing one or more small tasks) - you could spend 5 minutes on a cabinet or do one shelf?

I took a big step yesterday. I told a "new" friend at work about my hoarding (we have actually been friends for more than a year, but only at work.) I started by telling her how happy I have been to be able to find materials and supplies at home when I need them for his year (we were talking about trying to remember if you had something for class) and how hard it has been in the past. at first, she was like "oh yeah, I have those tendencies too, but I think moving around a lot helps." But I told her, no, I mean, I am an actual hoarder. It's like being an alcoholic. And when we were moving a lot, it made it worse, because there were too many decisions and anything might be the exact thing that I would need and not be able to get in the new location, so anything that could possibly be packed had to come along, and then at the new place I couldn't find anything.." and she said "so you bought more." And I said "yes." And she said "wow. Well good for you for making progress!"

People who teach children and do it well make really good friends.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 20 February 2019 - 10:22 PM
CM thank you for the nice newsy post!

I'm excited that your quilt is coming up on the bingo prize! That is so exciting. I understand about the bunny fabric. Even though I don't sew, I enjoy looking at fabrics and they are irresistible. Luckily I never buy any. My drapery toile worked for my drapes, Roman shade and throw pillows. I know if I could sew I'd be buying piles and piles of fabrics. It must be hard to resist.

I slept after work tonight. I got out for a very short walk only and went to see BF at his office. A packet from a friend in Switzerland had arrived. Very cute gifts inside.

I know I shouldn't waste my time by sleeping so much.

I feel better knowing that I'll see the nutritionist soon. Just talking to her made me feel better. I'd like to say goodby to the remaining weight. I'm half way there, I think. I've lost 33 and depending on where I end up I'd like to lose another 33. I feel stronger and more aware just from speaking with her.

I have some paperwork to tackle here. I also have put another sweater in my donate pile. I cannot tell you how good I feel since getting rid of that vase I've had for 26 years. I attached meaning to it that when I thought about it, didn't even exist.

I need to do more of that. What do you think? Open a drawer or cabinet and see what's there? I don't need to do vast clean outs, just another look. Now that I'm fairly cleaned out, I should be able to look in a cabinet without feeling dread. And I can decide the fate of things with a clearer vision.

Anyone want to help me form a challenge? Even a one-bag out challenge would be helpful. One bag a week or one bag after the weekend or something like that. I'd like it to involve stuff that is in the cabinets but which I no longer see.
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CriticalMass
Posted: 20 February 2019 - 03:40 PM
Clawing my way out of the pits.

Not really sure why the pits, just a lot of different things I guess. I did get the student loan paperwork done despite the password delay. That felt good. Also got the pay stubs that were recyclable gone, and the bits that need shredded don't amount to much.

Mainly I wish I could declutter the way I'm (finally) doing laundry - feed the rumpled mess of ALL my clutter into a magic machine that makes it come out neat and as it should be! And anything unneeded is bundled for disposal just like lint goes into the dryer vent. LOL! Know the feeling?

SubC - that article you read may be correct but I've also seen that ADHD might be a bigger factor than OCD in hoarding according to other studies. Who knows. I have both, lucky me...heh...

Bad weather late last week put paid to roommate's proposed trip out of town. I felt bad for her but we had some time to relax and watch extra Star Trek.

We had the bunny event and got on local TV. I'm trying to locate the link to the footage to put on our group Facebook page. May have to call the station if it's not up online and see if we can get a copy or however that works.

We did have some good news in that we saw our repair guy in person and his health is improving. He has been through the wars with trying different medications. So he may be able to start on our sunroom soon.

On Monday we went out shopping, and I had no idea Joann Fabrics had several new bunny themed fabrics - I'm afraid my Wanter won. But I'm thinking in terms of crafting items for the bunny group's fundraiser, so maybe it's okay. Most of the fabrics were bunny themed without being overwhelmingly Easter themed at the same time, which is what I want.

The Easter ones are cute and all, but for the bunny club we don't want to emphasize the connection between rabbits and Easter, as that leads to ignorant people impulsively getting baby rabbits at Easter time. Such people often abandon them when they hit puberty and the people don't want to be fussed to spay or neuter them and otherwise care for them as a family pet.

We also bought some tie dye supplies, because I'm thinking of an idea for watercolor effect T-shirts with bunnies and flowers that we could also sell for fundraising. I'll get a bag of white T-shirts at the thrift store that we can practice on and see if my idea works.

My church quilt Bingo on the first Sunday in March is approaching rapidly! It'll be interesting to see who gets the quilt I made. I want to start working on some new ones.

Tillie, glad your bug is gone or mostly gone and you got to go grocery shopping. Next time you'll know to hide those tangerines!

Tatoulia I think the necklace is fine. I'm sure you'll be finding other items to donate as well as what you already have, so you'll still come out with fewer items and maybe a tax break for the donations so you break even. I'm thinking of purging a lot of clothes as I mentioned before, and getting a new-to-me thing or two that I like better. I keep things forever, and some of them I'm just getting tired of looking at and wearing.

SubC keep us posted on your crochet class. I would like to improve my crocheting and knitting which are very much beginner level. Have you seen this story and video of this 11 year old whiz kid Jonah - man can he crochet!

Crochet whiz kid

Miscellaneous - I've probably been bummed some due to the weather - I'd like a word or two with old Punxsutawney Phil. The bugger supposedly didn't see his shadow on the 2nd but I am not getting any "spring is just around the corner" vibe!

My nice newer van now has stuff in it that is intended to go to storage. And I'm looking at how bad my bedroom is getting - pretty sure I saw a FEMA helicopter fly over earlier. I'm probably going to have to take a large amount of stuff from here over there to ever make it liveable.

That's going to entail making the storage unit arranged nicely, and it's going to give me a reality check about the amount of STUFF I have in total. Eek! I may have to break down and let go of more stuff - fabric I'd hoped to use in sewing, for instance, books, who knows what. I may just have to say if I'm not going to use this whatever in X amount of time, it goes away.

And that may be easier to do once I get going. Thinking about it makes me sad, but I think some of that's the winter blahs talking. As I've said already, too, I'm flabby and out of shape and needing to get back to exercising, which will give me energy and a better outlook.

Well, enough Russian novel again, needed to catch up. Can't say 100% that I'll try to post more often so it can be shorter and just because I'd like to - but I will try. Love you all, thanks for being here.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 20 February 2019 - 11:02 AM
Good morning!

The cleaning fairies got here while I was still in bed. All clean here! What a gift to have them. They also brought me lunch. I'll likely have for dinner. It was less stressful having them here today since two went upstairs to neighbor's apt and I only had one here. It seemed to be less stressful. Plus I'm pretty well used to them by now.

My towels are in the dryer and I'm washing a winter throw. I should get dressed soon and take a walk.

Nutritionist appt is set for March 6th! It was good to talk with her and I'm excited to get a bit of a tune up! I'm taking the 6th and 7th off. Will go to the museum of fine arts with mom on the 7th. We will see the Boston jewelry exhibit and then have lunch. I was flirting with taking the 8th off but BF will be working and there's not a big point in taking off just to lounge.

SubC, I am proud of you and I also appreciate the visual snapshot of your home. Let's keep focusing on what's next because I know that together, we can do it! I still have more to get rid of. Still too much stuff.

Tillie glad to hear you are eating! I'm tempted to steal one of those tiny oranges myself! I'm glad you are on the mend. I worry so. And I'm glad you hid the rest of the fruit from Steven.

So I'll finish my laundry and then get dressed and maybe go for a walk. We are expecting some sort of storm tonight but the weather people hype it up so much I'm not actually sure if we are expecting much.

A dear friend from Kuwait is coming to visit in March! I am so excited. We haven't seen her in many years, probably four or more. Her daughter was friends with my BF and then we became close to the mom. The daughter we saw a few years ago when she was in the US. Mother will be here for a conference.
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Subclinical
Posted: 20 February 2019 - 06:35 AM
Tillie,

I am glad you are eating. Boo on Steven for stealing your fruit!

Very busy week at school. No baby goats yet. Getting warmer, but pouring rain - I get paid on the 28th. New boots soon!

I think one keeps one's seashells in one's school supplies cupboard, since that is what they are for. But my school supplies cupboard is still only a concept. Currently it is an overstuffed "random kitchen/garden/household related stuff and things that might be useful and are sometimes used at school" cupboard.

I know that I have made progress. For one thing, the rooms with the goat paths are piled below my waist instead of way over my head! I guess I listed all those areas because I felt like Tatoulia was giving me too much credit, and they kind of provide a snapshot in time if where I am and what i'm Working on.

Ok, must gather materials and leave for work!
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Tillie
Posted: 19 February 2019 - 10:25 AM
Good Morning Everyone

Hi Subclinical
Reading about all you need to sort out, declutter and organize there.
Remember you did recently do some drawers of shirts Tshirts and pants.
You work out of the house and also have work related homework to do.
The girls will be giving birth any time now so there is even more to do farm related.
You have been managing to get things done whenever you find a few minutes/hours.
You have taken care of pottery related tasks of cleaning, sorting out and organizing there.
I've been wracking my brain trying to think of where does one store their seashells in the basement?
Anyways...
Just keep on doing what you have been doing.
You are only one person and can only do just so much in any given day.
This road to getting all decluttered, organized and cleaned is a long road since you are doing this all by yourself.
Think back and you will be able to see how far you have come!
Don't focus on all that is still not done yet.
In time you will get there (((HUGS)))


Hi Tatoulia
Happy you are seeing the positive benefits of no spend February.
It's a lot like the fasting diet.
Helps you get back on track to a healthier lifestyle. :)

Since I went grocery shopping before falling ill there has been fresh fruit to eat.
But Steven saw my tiny tangerines and stole half of them.
Finished my bananas yesterday and finally cut up my pineapple.
It's now all ready to eat on a dish in the fridge.
Hid five tangerines and still have them for today.
Planning to scramble myself an egg or two today.
So yes, I have been eating. ;)
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Subclinical
Posted: 19 February 2019 - 04:38 AM
Oh Tatoulia,

You are so far ahead of me!

The top of my dresser is two feet tall, my walk-in closet is a look in closet, my bathroom has overstuffed cabinets and piles, there are piles on two guest beds again and the sleeping porch is basically a storage room, the closets in the guest rooms are spilling out, there are two large rooms in my basement with "goat paths", the scullery (old kitchen) is a mess, the garage is still messy, the barn is still messy, and the studio barn is still horrendous.

And this morning I am sore and tired from the clay work.

But I put away my desk last night.

Today I go in early because I have a subject area meeting. I also plan to swim and need to grocery shop on the way home.

If I attach that handle this morning and clean up after myself all day and only bring home food, it will be a good day.

I read a research article last night and I read out to dh the part that 80% of people with hoarding disorder also struggle with depression or OCD. and he asked "what percent have both?" I'm trying to take that as empathy.

Tillie,

How are you feeling today?

How is everyone else? It's been very quiet here. Jump in if you come by!
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Tatoulia
Posted: 18 February 2019 - 09:25 PM
Hello! SubC you are doing so much great work! I am so proud of you. You are inspiring me to do better.

My cleaners come on Wednesday and I'm grateful for that.
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Subclinical
Posted: 18 February 2019 - 07:17 PM
Oh dear Tillie, now i'm Worried again. You are not even eating soup?

I'm glad you have clean dishes, but keep taking it easy.

Tatoulia, sounds like things went well with your mom.

I am very glad you are enjoying your necklace and getting compliments! No spending and getting your finances in order is important, but so is enjoying your life! It sounds like the necklace was a very good choice for your treat.

My goats are still not having their babies. Today they made a nest and curled up in it together and laughed at me. That is ok. It's going to be very cold tonight. They should keep the little goats inside where it is warm. I gave them a heat lamp just in case.

I spent the afternoon in my studio. Didn't make anything new, but I cleaned up my work table so that I can put a handle on one of my pieces tomorrow, gathered up some things to take to school, wedged up more scrap clay to use, and in the process emptied two buckets with broken lids and threw them in the trash. I have two more buckets with broken lids and I really should get them emptied and thrown out before the trash service ends - they are salvaged cat litter buckets people bring me because they don't recycle, but eventually the hinge gives out.

Areas that are now clear and ready to use in my studio:
Wedging table
Wheel/trimming area
Half the drying rack
One end of the work table
Kiln

I am trying not to make messes elsewhere as I go. I moved a pile of boxes of seashells into my basement, but besides that,everything I have moved has been used up, thrown out, given away, recycled, or put where it belongs.

The seashells belong in my basement, I just don't know where in the basement yet. Too many things, not enough spaces.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 18 February 2019 - 03:39 PM
We cross posted. Glad you are building up your strength, Tillie. Will you be able to eat today?
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Tatoulia
Posted: 18 February 2019 - 03:38 PM
I'm hack from getting mom's additional groceries. It's snowy but warm so the sidewalks were fine. Most people has shoveled. Good to get a walk in

I took my garbage out a bit earlier than allowed. I was worried that once I took my boots off I wouldn't feel like going out. I didn't do anything more at mom's today. I just wanted to get her groceries and mine home.

I'm going to be able to discuss my finances in two more weeks. I'm working on my debt reduction. I talked with someone at work about it (she is wealthy and financially savvy) and she agreed my idea is sound. So give me a few more weeks. I'll also call my former financial advisor since my new one isn't Interested in spending a lot of time with me. My former person is now at a company that I do not want to switch to for personal reasons and he understands my reasoning. But we keep in touch. Circumstances can change.

I am excited about the no-spend February and feel better about myself since I am making wise choices. My March birthday gift will be another session with my nutritionist. I wore my necklace the other day and two people mentioned it. One was a very nice man at the office-he's under 30 and such a nice person. He mentioned he liked what I was wearing and that my jewelry was great. So I'm forgiving myself.

I would like to do a few more things here. I'm doing a quick load of delicates. I have a cat next to me. Sound asleep.

I baked pumpkin bread last night and I remembered all of the ingredients! I also used my old recipe; the one I used in grad school and it is much tastier than the other one I've been using lately. It's more satisfying to eat. I took a third of the loaf up to mom's house.
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Tillie
Posted: 18 February 2019 - 03:30 PM
Good Afternoon Everybody

Hi Subclinical
WTG! for all you did!
YEA! for a clean kitchen!!!
Wishing you lots more time to do lots more ceramics :D

Hi Tatoulia
YEA! for your Mom's laundry getting caught up.
Good you bought a different kitty cereal.
I had noticed great improvement when I use the ones specifically formulated for sensitive tummies.
I am positive kitty truly appreciates the new litter box. ;D


Ten days since I last washed dishes.
Not very many, mostly it was glasses and spoons since I haven't been cooking and also ran out of soup long ago.
But I managed to get the dishes ALL washed today.
Would wash a few, sit down and rest then get back up and washed a few more.
Snowed off & on all yesterday. Been very cold days & nights.
Next storm expected later this week.
All the snow in the mountains is very good to help with drought.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 18 February 2019 - 11:53 AM
Tillie I'm happy to hear from you and I am grateful you are feeling human again. Great work, SubC on throwing six pots! I always wanted to work on a potters wheel.

I did some errands and shopping for mom yesterday. I then went back to her apartment to give kitty a new litter box. I'm also bought kitty a different kitty food to try since she's been having a bad tummy. When I left mom's for the last time yesterday, I spoke with one of the aides to get the rest of mom's laundry done and someone stopped up this AM to get.

It's almost 1 and I'm just getting out of bed. We had some snow overnight and probably in to the AM.

Mom called with more grocery needs so I'll walk to store soon.
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Subclinical
Posted: 17 February 2019 - 07:15 PM
Hi Tillie!

I am sorry that Steven doesn't want to take care of you. But I am glad you feel well enough to give us such a nice long post. We worry!

I am still feeling pretty good about dh feedback. I think he is still feeling bad about his comment, because he is cleaning the kitchen!

The thing I was looking for does hang out with similar objects, but they do not have a permanent home yet. So, it was in the pile in the guest room, and then it was in the pile on the dining porch, and then it was in the pile on the floor at the end of the storage shelf, and then it was Christmas time and I was sick and it was in the way, and I couldn't remember moving it. But I did - because the whole pile was gone.

But I eventually found the pile in another part of the basement, hiding under a large gift bag from Christmas that I hadn't put away properly.

Tatoulia, i'm Sorry you are having a struggle with your mom's home right now. Hopefully she will let you make it better. Did you find something that agreed with your tummy?

I have been catching up on school things today and I worked in my pottery studio. I have all my plans done for Tuesday and Thursday, and most of them for Wednesday, and half of Friday. I threw six pots and wedged up a bucket of clay.

And my kitchen is clean. ;)
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Tillie
Posted: 17 February 2019 - 04:22 PM
Good Afternoon Everyone

WOW! Subclinical!!! :D
So wonderful that your DH acknowledged all your hard work in such a positive reinforcing way!.

So glad you spoke up for yourself.
Words do hurt (((HUG)))

One way to help keep from losing something and having to look everywhere for it...
Is to have specific areas/zones where specific types of items go.
So when you put something down you always put it somewhere in it's designated zone.
Maybe it's not stored properly due to time limits but at least you only need to search in the one specific area/zone for it.
Just think what zone does that belong in and look for it there.
Close enough. ;DS


Hi Tatoulia
YEA! for a good looking bedroom!
So sweet of you to cook for her. ;)
Good luck cleaning up your Mom's place.
Have something light and easy for supper maybe washed down with a ginger ale.


Today I am out of bed and even dressed.
Had some lunch too.
My energy is very limited.
Can't do much in any day.
Don't have enough energy to wash dishes but I did scoop litter boxes and filled kibble & water bowls.
Yesterday I did not get the boxes scooped but with three cats and three litter boxes it isn't so bad.
Steven has been going out of his way to ignore me.
Never once asking me if I'm not well.
If I were to tell him how scary sick I have been he would only start going on & on about how he feels, just minimalizing my problem.
You and the cats are the only ones who know I'm sickly.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 17 February 2019 - 02:57 PM
I cooked for mom and took the casserole to her. Then we wrote our belated valentine's. I put the clean duvet on her bed. She still has the pile of laundry that I told her I'd pay to have done. I also need to find a vacuum at her place. Her place is just awful. And she seems to be st a point where I could accomplish some things there. I'll pick up the laundry on Wednesday and will do.

I have the kitchen cleaned from the cooking this AM. No idea what I'll be eating tonight. My stomach is always a little turned after being at mom's house.

Hope everyone is doing okay. Would love an update from Motown, Tess, Anony, Cm, Tillie.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 17 February 2019 - 01:05 PM
I love you both so much.
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Subclinical
Posted: 17 February 2019 - 12:52 PM
This morning I was looking all over the house for something I need, and I was very frustrated, and I couldn't find it, and I was grumpy. I told dh I had moved it too many times. But I took a break to do something else, and then I just looked again, and I found it, and I put it on the stool in the entryway. And dh said "you just moved it again."

And I said "but i won't lose it here, this is a staging area." And he said "the entire house is your staging area." Which hurt.

But I am learning to stand up for myself. Even if I am in the wrong, I do not deserve to be treated badly. And if I have made you angry or disappointed, or frustrated, it is still wrong for you to be mean to me.

So I said "that is unfair. Do you know how easily I get discouraged and how hard this is for me and how much I have accomplished?"

He gave me a hug and said "you're right. I'm sorry. Do YOU know how much you have accomplished?"

I asked "how much?"

And he said "you have accomplished so much that it doesn't bother me anymore."

Wow.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 17 February 2019 - 09:56 AM
Hi SubC, I know it's idrational but please treat yourself well. Don't beat yourself up. You are experiencing anxiety and panic and I feel so sorry for you. I have been there and know how awful it can be. So please say nice things to yourself.

Good work on whittling down the T-shirt's! Last night I ended up starting a bag for goodwill and I included a vase that I've had for many many years. The vase held this giant bouquet of flowers my then-boyfriend sent me when I received my graduate degree. So off it goes. I'm really happy about that. I've also included two cloth napkins to try to reduce the number that I have.

Tillie I hope you are on the mend.

I washed one of mom's duvets late last night. BF and I had gone out and then had dinner at his house. I am going to cook dinner for mom before I head up to her house. I know she's going to want me to get her out today but I want to work on some of the gross stuff in her apartment.

My bedroom is looking good! I'll work a bit more on it today and then move on. I took my recycling out last night. I absolutely love the feeling of getting things out of my apt. Love it.
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Subclinical
Posted: 16 February 2019 - 12:38 PM
Thanks Tatoulia,

I hate it because I know it's irrational, but I still can't seem to keep myself from spiraling out of control.

How is you bedroom going?

Dh helped me with my plain t-shirts before he left today. I just put them on one after the other and he said keep or toss. I kept three and put four in the donate bag. He said I could keep a fourth one, but I saw his face while he was deciding. Now there is a little extra space in my dresser, so I may move some things around.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 16 February 2019 - 11:55 AM
Yay for feeling better, Tillie, and yay for the big orange cat! I have been worried. Glad to hear you can eat a little again. I bet the tomato soup was delicious.

SubC you certainly have had your fair share of anxiety and worry lately and I'm so sorry about that. Try to breathe and sip tea. I'm so sorry. As a champion worrier I do understand. And the anxiety really can take over; you can't even sleep peacefully.

I am doing two loads of laundry and changing my sheets. I got a hair cut last night and had a great deal of fun talking to one of the other customers. Turns out that we both lived in the very same apartment. I lived in it late 80s until I bought my condo, and she and her husband lived in it starting in 2000. Isn't that odd? Also, last week during jury duty one of the jurors lived in that building, but not the very same apartment. Very fun to talk about the building. I enjoyed living there.

Ok I need to look at things realistically. Will start with the bedroom. BF and I are getting together at 3PM. So I'll need to look alive.
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Subclinical
Posted: 16 February 2019 - 06:09 AM
Tillie, I am glad you are feeling better and that you have a big orange kitty to love you. Keep resting.

I slept until almost six this morning, I might have slept longer, but MY kitty was very upset by this change in our routine and finally I insisted I get up and let him out.

I dreamed that my husband and my son cleaned out the basement. It was very stressful and upsetting. I woke up and was happy that my basement is still a mess I have to deal with.

I was very tired last night. I overplanned all of my classes because I was was so stressed out, and then instead if just realizing that I had enough activities and information for two sessions I tried to finish as much as possible. Fortunately by the last class I had come to my senses and I just explained the card game, we matched the footprints with the animals and talked a little about why the prints looked the way they do (some animals have retractable claws! Some hop!) and then they made their own cards to take home and play with their families. Most of them finished, and some of them had time to play a round or three with classmates. And they all had time to help me clean up!

My third class ran four minutes into my fourth class and I will have to review the stuff I spent the last ten minutes "previewing" just so that their homework would make sense, my second class ran ten minutes into lunch and left me with all the cleanup, and my poor 1st period high school kids were so confused by the activity I tried to rush them through that I will have to start over on it next week and try to undo the damage.

I am trying to regroup this weekend. My goal is to not leave the property until Tuesday. Dh has a "meeting" to call into this morning and then has to leave around noon and will be back in the evening. I don't know yet if he has to work tomorrow.

My first goat is due today, but she is not bagged up yet, so I think she will go late. Today is day 145, and the latest a goat has ever gone here was her mother - who went to 157 once. I was expecting a dead kid from that, but everything was fine, so if she goes very late I will remember genetics and not worry.

I am two weeks late starting my tomato and pepper seeds, so that is important today, and I need to set up my desk and get my classes in order for next week. I have also been struggling to get out and work in my pottery studio, so I want to make that a priority this weekend. Plus, I need to demessify my house and run some laundry.

I have been thinking about why I am so stressed out. Part of it is the not knowing - I am working on a list of things that (have to) happen before we find out our teaching schedules for next year (in 19 days) so that I can distract myself with some short horizons. Also, I cleaned out the laundry room, and newly open spaces actually make me very unsettled. It takes me a while to adjust. I think if I had a whole house clean out, I would admire the beautiful new space, and then I would build a blanket fort in the corner and crawl into it and cry. I think the basement dream was a reflection of this. I may go down there and putter around if I start to get panicky again.
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Tillie
Posted: 15 February 2019 - 10:29 PM
Hi Guys :)

Today all the excruciating total body pain finally subsided.
I was able to get out of bed, yea.
Had tomato soup with cheez-its and a banana.
Had absolutely no desire to eat before.
Do not know what the $#@& went wrong with my body.

Yesterday's weather was fantastic!
Snow, rain then more snow.
Then dark, dark gray clouds blew over with lots of thunder and dumped a major hail storm down on us.

My big orange kitty stayed by my side in bed all the while I was down.
Today he has stayed right by me being very affectionate and needy.
He takes very good care of me.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 15 February 2019 - 07:24 PM
Checking in on Tillie, SubC and CM. Let me know how you are feeling and faring.
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Subclinical
Posted: 15 February 2019 - 05:19 PM
Tillie,
I hope you are feeling much better!

Tatoulia, i'm glad you had a nice Valentine's Day.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 14 February 2019 - 08:53 PM
My dear Tillie, I am so sorry youve been sick. I wish you a happy Valentine's Day anyway. Sending you warm wishes and prayers for a speedy recovery.

SubC thank you for having some calming tea. I can imagine how you feel. I too cannot enjoy before and after pictures. Not because I might miss some object, but because I find it awful to see my life so objectively. Take good care of those dear goats. I think you are wonderful in every way and I bet the mamma goats can sense your love and caring nature.

Cm congratulations on the bunny newsletter. Like all of us, you have a lot going on right now. I know I feel that I'm having a difficult entry into 2019. Hopefully things will smooth out for each of us soon.

Tillie I am grateful that you did your shopping. I'm not sure if you can eat or not but try to get some liquids in you. My mother used to give me an ice cube. That way, I could get some liquid in me but I wouldn't throw it up.

We were able to finish part one of our task today. Someday maybe I'll feel more comfortable discussing the volunteer work. I'm back to office tmr and I am grateful for that.

BF and I had a delightful dinner out tonight. I took one of the array of desserts we ordered home to mom. BF also sent her a pint of Hagen Daas white chocolate truffle raspberry ice cream I have to get over to mom's this weekend. She had a lot going on in her apartment and it all needs some attention.

SubC please breathe. Deep breaths. Come here anytime you are panicking and I'll do my best to help you calm your worries.

Goodnight, dear hearts. Tillie please see if you could have an ice cube or a sip of very weak tea.
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Tillie
Posted: 14 February 2019 - 07:48 PM
Just a quick note to let you all know I have been real spooky sick.
Think the worst of it is over for now.
My eyes can tolerate the computer screen light again.
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Subclinical
Posted: 14 February 2019 - 07:25 PM
CM,

I am glad you got your bunny newsletter done. I hope you come back soon to tell us everything is ok with your loan. Those big things make such a difference when they are off our plates.

I swam 2900 meters.

I had a large glass of wine (with dinner - I made dinner, dh brought home wine, we are so romantic)

I am still panicking. But very quietly. I appear oh so composed.
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CriticalMass
Posted: 14 February 2019 - 02:30 PM
Hi,

Happy Valentine's Day

Been juggling too many balls in the air this week - getting the bunny club newsletter out, returning to quilting since the bad weather let up, and much misc. Plus the everyday this and that, which I have such a difficulty integrating with the variable thises and thatses from one day to the other.

This weekend is the bunny club's quarterly meeting, my roommate is going out of town so I will have all the cat, bunny, and fish care. Dog goes with her, thankfully, one less to remember and deal with. And we may have bad weather.

So anyway, I finally got the bunny newsletter wrapped up around 1:00, and now it's down to something that's been waiting to get done for a month, a very important thing that just hasn't gotten done because of my scatteredness. I have to renew my Income-Based Repayment Plan for my stinking student loan debt.

Went to do it and the dumb website wouldn't take the password I so carefully have made note of - it locked me out and made me answer questions and make a new password. Fine. Then it said I can't use them to login for half an hour! *Flames and smoke coming out my ears* I'm just glad I'm not at the library with my computer use being timed.

I will check in again to celebrate when I get this accomplished, because today is the day I'm determined to get it checked off my list. It seems like so early after the holiday lull that everything needs doing at once, y'know?
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Subclinical
Posted: 14 February 2019 - 11:01 AM
And you are not pathetic!

You are amazing and inspirational.
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Subclinical
Posted: 14 February 2019 - 11:00 AM
Hi Tatoulia.

I stopped. I made myself a cup of tea (peppermint chamomile) it was too hot so I watered my plants.

I came back with my tea to read your post. Three times.

I went outside and set up the kidding stall and put the two goats who are due this weekend in it. I trimmed the hooves on the one whose hooves always get extra bad when she is pregnant and I have to admit I had neglected them.

The first kids would have been viable if they had been born two days ago, and the second kids are viable today. So I am three days late on this job. But the kids aren't here yet, so that is ok.

I try really hard to avoid before and after pictures, because the before pictures are depressing and because I am afraid I will see a thing I got rid of and trigger remorse. So my progress exists only in my unreliable head and the stories of people who have actually been allowed to see the bad areas. There are very few of those.

But I know there have been years that I have been in denial or counted wrong until I found myself in a freezing barn with poor momma goat cordoned off in a makeshift zone with her babies while I deperately tried to get the kidding stall to a minimum level of function. Sometimes late at night. I have even had babies born in the field. So, there is that.

Then I read your post some more and made myself a healthy lunch.

I do want all the classes, i'm just afraid I can't handle them. Every year I have added more classes. This year I have one on Tuesday, 5 on Wednesday, one on Thursday, and four on Friday.

We are four weeks into the seven weeks between turning in class requests and seeing the schedule. So by now, the director has probably done the majority of replacing non-returning teachers, finding coverage for classes she wants to keep that the teacher wants to drop, and working out her preferred list of offerings. Then she has to try to match them with open spaces during the times the teachers are available to create a varied and reasonable slate of schedule offerings for the kids. There are a lot of factors. If by some weird twist of fate she has actually given me everything I requested, now is not the time to tell her I changed my mind!

I threw out another pair of old shoes. I chopped everything up so I can fix dinner for dh in 20 minutes tonight. I ran the dishwasher.

I think I am actualky doing better. When things get better, when there is no pressing emergency "I am behind and I have to do this NOW", when things start to become routine, that is when I panic. I can't trust it.

I truly cannot imagine what it would feel like to be "normal". to have a home that didn't have piles or random boxes of belongings stored in odd places, to have every floor cleared in every room. Cannot imagine.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 14 February 2019 - 07:50 AM
Deep breath in, hold it, exhale slowly. Please repeat.

SubC you seem to be panicking. You are doing a lot. Teaching (and I'm no professional; I teach a few classes at work during the year) requires an unbelievable amount of energy. The first time I taught a class, I was shocked at the amount of energy expended. Five classes in a day? Huge output. Huge. In addition, it's tough to be "on" for that amount of time. Breathe.

also, could you have a large glass of water or milk right now? I'll wait.

The self-doubt you are feeling is amplified right now. The short answer is, we are doing what we can. Would it be possible to tell the principal that you have suggested the heavy class load in order to give her flexibility and options when choosing the classes? Let her know that you don't expect all of your "wishes" to be " granted"?

Breathe. We are here. You are doing great. And if you can reflect, your life is probably measurably easier now that you have cleared out some areas of your house. Could you look back a year and look at your progress?


I am 55 years old and still can't make it to work on time. I'm pathetic.
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Subclinical
Posted: 14 February 2019 - 06:48 AM
Tatoulia, I am very happy for you for your weight loss and pretty clothes!

I am learning that Wednesday's are hard I keep thinking that Wednesday's should be easier because I don't exercise in the evening and I get home sooner, so I should be less tired and have more time to do things.

Except I forget that I am a morning person. And that I teach FIVE classes on Wednesday.

And I am scared, because I put in a schedule request for next year that could give me 5 classes every day. ("Every day" means tues through fri) It probably won't, because we never get everything we ask for - I've learned to over propose so that my boss has alternatives for different slots and I am more likely to get them, but it could actually happen. And what if I can't handle it?

I feel like I am making progress on the house and routines and this should make it easier to do other things, but what if I am lying to myself? What if the progress on the house stops or disappears because I am not spending as much time at home and I backslide and everything falls into disaster again and I start losing everything and dropping balls?

I know that "normal" people work full time and raise families and have social lives, and keep up with their homes all at once, and what I am trying to do should be easier. But what if I can't?
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Tatoulia
Posted: 13 February 2019 - 07:42 PM
Hello, hello! I was all day on my volunteer thing. We may be able to finish our task tomorrow, which will be good.

I'm sitting next to my little one. She is so lovely. We have Monday off and I am looking forward to it. I have no plans whatsoever but I do want some time off.

I'm busily planning for my birthday, which is first week of March. I'll likely take two days off. I'll spend my actual day with mom. I'm thinking we could go to the museum and then have lunch. The following day I'm thinking of going to see my nutritionist for a refresher session. Yes, I plan this far ahead. Unfortunately BF's schedule will be a bit messed up so we will celebrate the weekend before.

I'm getting my haircut on Friday. It is overdue and thus a necessity. Tomorrow for Valentine's Day we have reservations at one of our favorite restaurants. I dont know what time I'll get out of my volunteer service day so I'll wear a skirt and red top. Today I wore a dress that I haven't been able to wear in a long time. Say 5 years, maybe 6. Fits comfortably and looks great. One of the women on my panel today, who is gorgeous, said she lost 85 lbs on weight watchers. She was good inspiration for me. Last time I weighed myself I was about 33 down.

I hope I can continue on the path of losing weight. It feels so good.

So what have you been doing today??!
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Tatoulia
Posted: 13 February 2019 - 07:30 AM
Yay for grocery shopping!!! And a cat nap!!! My kind of day, Tillie. I bet it was nice to stop in the thrift shop and just enjoy Ice found that now I enjoy seeing things without the tug. I will say that when I saw the necklace, I didn't feel the tug to buy it (whichbis goid), instead I thought, this is pretty and would be a good, classic piece to replace my now-donated silvertone piece. So I was grateful to have safely tucked away the urge to buy just to buy. It will be a work in progress but I feel strong. Plus the necklace doesn't ruin the no-spend month; I'm still doing it. As my nutritionist says, if you eat too much that's not an excuse to give up; if you dented your car, you wouldn't decide that it was ruined and keep ramming it into things. So the same applies here. It's still a no-spend time.

I agree on the new boots and I hope you can get them soon, SubC. Sometimes when I keep the old pair of whatever, I wait to see if I actually use them in a year then make my decisions. I know that you do a lot of work in varying types of places so you will know fairly early on whether you'll be using them. Good decision making.

OH Christmas stockings! Ok! Sounds good! I'm still going to put my foot in mine. 😊
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Subclinical
Posted: 13 February 2019 - 04:39 AM
Wear your necklace and enjoy it Tatoulia! You made good progress this month!

Chenille socks do sound cozy, but these are Christmas stockings. So I only gave to make half as many. :) since the in-law kids arrived, we don't have matching ones. Theirs are very bland and I thought it would be fun to start over.

A co worker suggested duct tape for the boots too. They are heavy leather work boots and all the seams are leaking. I thought about buying some kind of sealant too. The biggest problem is that I would have to get the boots clean and dry to fix them and I need to wear them 2x a day. Bags would probably work if I could get past the sensory issues. But last night it froze and snowed, so they won't leak this morning. And it might not rain for a whole week!

I think I will buy new boots, and I will keep the old ones and maybe try rewaterproofing them, or at least wearing them when I am working in dry conditions to make the new ones last longer. I threw out all my old ratty shoes, so I feel like I can make space for back up boots. One pair. I have had these a long time. And my wanter is set on new boots now. ;) I think they are a good celebration for paying off the car.

Tillie, i'm Glad you got out and visited with pleasant people.
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Tillie
Posted: 12 February 2019 - 04:54 PM
Good Afternoon

Subclinical
maybe put an a plastic bread bag over the socks to keep them dry.
Anyways... Don't stay outside too long once you get wet (((hug)))

Hi Tatoulia
Sorry the laptop is occupied.
Have you tried luring the cat away with a food treat?


Went grocery shopping, bought food.
Before the groceries I stopped by the thrift shop and had a pleasant conversation.
Looked at EVERYTHING in the shop.
Touched stuff, picked up stuff and held it.
Bought nothing.

Bitterly cold day.
Next storm is starting to blow in, should be snow falling sometime after midnight.


Groceries are all put away.
It's just 2:54pm
I am very tired and am going to take a cat nap.
The cat is already sound asleep.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 12 February 2019 - 02:46 PM
Awwww. You ladies are so great. I'm keeping it. I know exactly the types of blouses I will wear with it and it has a nice, classy feel about it. It was under $50. I found two necklaces and a bracelet that I will donate to make more room.

That must be great having the car laid off, SubC! Congratulations! I once had to use duct tape on a pair of boots and it worked a little too well. I finally needed someone to tell me to start over with a new pair. M
Office closed at 2 due to storm and now I'm home. We are expected to work from home but there's a cat on my laptop. M

Am sneaking in a quick load of laundry. Makes me happy.
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Subclinical
Posted: 12 February 2019 - 11:37 AM
I'm not saying she shouldn't be able to keep it and use it, i'm Saying, if it makes her sad, she should return it instead if wearing it - because she said she felt bad after she bought it.

I think we are in agreement depending on us Tatoulia decides she feels about the necklace. A treat should make you happy.

I think it is too late for the boots. I am just wearing my nice heavy socks so my feet stay warm enough even though they get wet. It is only for a short time during chores.

I will need new boots, but I am waiting fir my next paycheck (March 1) because boots are expensive and I use payed off my car. No car payment = good boots!

Gotta go earn that paycheck...
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Tillie
Posted: 12 February 2019 - 09:11 AM
Good Morning

OK, here's my thinking on the necklace...

Tatoulia has done some HUGE major purging the last year.
She has let go of many very lovely and expensive and sentimental treasures.
She has decluttered her jewelry, both costume and real.
She lives and works in a big busy city.
Having lived in Detroit I know the women hold themselves to high standards according to dress.
I am pretty sure this new necklace was not really all that expensive.
She likes it better than one she had and has given away.
Tatoulia has been doing so very well restricting herself from nonessential purchases since she started posting here.
I worry that if we do not ever allow ourselves to enjoy a little treat once in a while we will just give up and give in due to depression caused by always living like a refugee and simply stop trying.

Hi Tatoulia
Once you have paid down your debts we can discuss you starting to put away a set amount monthly for emergency expenses. ;D
Yes, don't wear wool when you will be getting wet.
It gets too heavy LOL

Hi Subclinical
OK, simple crochet stitches.
You will do fine :D

All that water there and your boots leak! :(
Can you patch them with a bicycle patch?

7:00am here.
Seriously planning on grocery shopping today.
Just get it over with so it's no longer hanging over my head.
Hoping while I'm gone he doesn't trash the nice clean house.
Have a shopping list all made up.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 12 February 2019 - 07:30 AM
Interesting idea the necklace, SubC. I appreciate all the views and will take the next few days to think about it! Thank you!

Crocheting sounds like fun and chenille socks sound so cozy!

I am working on my debt. I have some ideas about it and will be in a position to make some decisions very soon. I get paid Friday and will have two checks-one with my unusued vacation time. So at that point I think I can finalize my plan for the credit card debt.

Sadly I do not have an emergency fund yet. But I will get there, with your help.

I have to finish getting ready for work. I'm thinking about wearing a storm jacket type of coat so my wool coat doesn't get weighed down in the sleet and freezing rain as I walk home today.

Coffee clinks!
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Subclinical
Posted: 12 February 2019 - 04:34 AM
I don't know Tillie,

If the necklace is going to make Tatoulia feel bad all the time, I don't want her to wear it. I think it's ok to return it, have the money back, and call it a lesson learned.

Tatoulia, if you return the necklace and pay something down, it will literally and figuratively remove some of the weight hanging around your neck. :)

It's great to hear about the change in your financial situation so far! Do you have an emergency fund saved up?

I understand the staying home and never wanting to see people again. Once we got snowed in for 11 days - bliss!

It is strange to me that you are cold and i am not. It's supposed to get into the 50's today. But it has been raining almost nonstop for two days andwill continue. Everything is underwater. Even though we have some slope, the rain is coming down too fast to drain off. The barns and the house are little islands in a 1- 2" ocean. And my boots leak.

I think you should grocery shop. I want you to get away from Steven for a while and have a better variety of food.

So far I learned how to make (chain?) stitches (in knitting it would be cast on) then turn around and single crochet in the other direction. The character stockings I want to make for my family for Christmas (using the chenille) have a knit version and a crochet version, and I like the crochet version better, but I only knit. I will need to learn single crochet, working in the round, and decreases. It seems doable.

Stayed up too late because dh got home after my bedtime and now I am tired.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 11 February 2019 - 10:08 PM
Do try to get out tomorrow, Tillie. Just for a change of scenery.

I cannot believe how a few short weeks of not spending has changed my perspective on spending. I get paid on Friday and my bills are up to date and there's still a bit of money in the bank. I'm not feeling so paycheck-to-paycheck right now.

I don't know what to do re necklace. BF says I should keep it. I was only shopping because he wanted to shop. I'll gave to think about this. If I can't enjoy the necklace, it's going back.

I can also think about if there's something else I'd rather do with the money. Not spending per se but paying something down or putting it in savings acct.
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Tillie
Posted: 11 February 2019 - 09:08 PM
Good Evening

WAY TO GO! Subclinical!
You did fantastic in the studio.
Good decision to let the gates go since you don't need all but the one for "Justin Case" something needs corralling.

What kind of items are you going to learn to crochet?
I have been crocheting since I was a little girl.

Hi Tatoulia
OK...
Here's what you do...
enjoy the new necklace and wear it all the time.
Let the necklace remind you that you have a goal to reach and you ARE going to achieve this goal this year. (((HUG)))

Stay safe in the storm.
My next storm is expected Wednesday.

I am debating going grocery shopping tomorrow or not.
Should go.
The longer I stay home and have no interaction with humans the less I want to leave home and talk to people.

Steven is holed up in his bedroom so I think I am safe from cooties.

The icicles are about a foot long today. :D
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Tatoulia
Posted: 11 February 2019 - 08:12 PM
Great work and great decision-making, SubC. I hope you are able to feel a sense of relief as you get rid of things. I know I do.

Tillie I bet the house smells nice! I'm glad Steven went to the doctor. Give him a wide berth as I don't want you to get sick.

Forgive me, for I have shopped. I bought a necklace. I got rid of a "silver" necklace because it just didn't suit me anymore. I found a very nice one for a low price and bought it.

And do you know what? I felt terrible instead of good. I am enjoying the feeling of not being wasteful with money and not adding more to my home. I'm not sure what I will do. I may return.

I am home. Haven't been to work on a Monday in a long, long time. I'm going in tmr too then I have volunteer stuf
We are expecting a messy storm tomorrow. I shall wear my boots.
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Subclinical
Posted: 11 February 2019 - 07:39 PM
Yay for cleaning!

I gave the whole addition cleaned up.

Worked in the studio. Intended to make bowls, but it was so overwhelming I ended up just trying to purge and organize. I filled 3/4 of a tall kitchen bag with trash. The wheel and bats are clean for tomorrow and the wedging area is clean and ready and one shelf of the drying rack plus some space on a makeshift board drying area, with clear paths between the areas so hopefully I will throw tomorrow. I need to get back to it.

I decided to get rid of most of our baby gates. ❤️gs is ten. If anyone else has a baby and we need to, we can buy new ones. These are 25 years old already. We have four, and I had loaned two of them to dd1 to contain her puppy. They've been in the garage for months and I was cleaning them to put them away. I think I will just keep one in case I need to contain an animal on the dining porch temporarily. Dd1 says she doesn't ever want them back.

Tatoulia, i'm sure more reusable bags will come into your life. Meanwhile, you can ask for paper and reuse those.

I went to a crochet class at the library tonight. It was strange to leave the house at night alone. But the class was good. I'm going to go back in two weeks. I still beat dh home - it is almost quarter to nine and he is still at work. (It's a bad time at work for him, which is part of why I signed up for the class. I hate spending my evenings waiting for him to come home.)
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