| Gem | Posted: 04 June 2014 - 11:17 AM |
Our AC is acting up and after our encounter with the paramedic I posted about in the Cleanup Help section we're scared to death to call any AC repair places but being we live in the south going without the AC could kill us. I'm not sure what do to. Anyone have any suggestions? Here's the link to my previous post for reference. http://hoardingcleanup.com/message_board/?msgbrd=3&topic=8611 | |
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| Tatoulia | Posted: 27 July 2015 - 07:05 PM |
Checking in. Write if you can. Thinking of you and your mom. | |
| G | Posted: 01 July 2015 - 09:11 PM |
Gem, I am sorry things have gone from what looked like some possible support to a group of people taking complete control over you and your Moms lives. I will keep you two in my thoughts and hope that somehow someway things end with you two being empowered and stronger with more supports that so many should be ashamed of themselves for not offering over the years of your asking. You are not alone and I know how isolating this is and cannot even imagine with your severe circumstances. Are you sure they are planning to clean your place out now with you guys not there and that the cleaning they did that day was not just to help make way to get your Mom to the hospital? If it is of any comfort, I understand the fear of going into nursing care with the concern of not being able to return home. I have seen it with very severe cases and he person returned home even though they were unable to walk unaided(with of course the assistance of home health care). Hope that is what will be possible and plan. Go with it as though it is, as like Joan said and your concerns are....if they have an agenda that is not in your best interest it is best not to add more fuel to it. You are NOT alone. Know there are people in this world thinking of you here. Not judging you. Who are wanting to see you and your Mom returned home with the proper supports in place(and be and stay in control of how your personal belongings are handled). Easy to say here I know, although while this is super scary and emotional in all ways...keep the faith. Do not ever give up. Never let hope be taken in the darkest of times. Hopefully the agenda is about empowering you two, although again I agree with Joan and your fears...also knowing that the system and those with experience to help just do not seem set up to do so in a way that mostly seems to be humane, kind, caring, empowering and being of service. What a traumatic story... I will keep checking in here as will others because you are in our thoughts and while you may not have physical friends and family, you have us. Do not let anyone make you feel less because of that, as it is the very outcome of the sever circumstances you have fallen. HUGS HUGS HUGS G xx y here I know, although while this is super scary and emotional ierience to help just do not seem set up to do so in a way that mostly seems to be humane, kind, caring, empowering and being of service. What a traumatic story... I will keep checking in here as will others because you are in our thoughts and while you may not have physical friends and family, you have us. Do not let anyone make you feel less because of that, as it is the very outcome of the sever circumstances you have fallen. HUGS HUGS HUGS G xx | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 01 July 2015 - 08:04 PM |
Sending you my support from afar, Gem. So very sorry about all of this. Please keep us posted. | |
| Joan | Posted: 01 July 2015 - 08:53 AM |
Gem, you don't know me, but I have been following your posts for a few weeks. I know how these systems work against people. My advice to you is to get a lawyer, pronto. ! ! ! You are entitled to a lawyer if they have strong-armed you into the "mental health" system. ! ! ! If you cannot get them to divulge which agency you should contact for free legal representation, search under mental health legal services for your state. NAMI (The National Alliance for the Mentally Ill) is a nationwide nonprofit with a legal assistance hotline, but their response will be slower. Let me know how you make out. Good luck. | |
| Gem | Posted: 01 July 2015 - 03:27 AM |
This is long so bear with me. 🙁 The social worker called at about 6:30 pm and said he was coming out with a co-worker to give me some news about my Mom. Little did I know that he was using that line so I'd have no problem inviting him in. Once I let them in that was when they basically strong armed me into coming to the hospital to get checked out then I found out that involved being admitted for multiple tests and taken to a room. Since it was the mental health people calling an ambulance to come and get me to take me up there (which was embarrassing) a cop showed up too. So just to take me up here an ambulance, fire truck, policeman (I think he had a partner but I didn't see much of him), firemen, paramedics and 2 social workers. That was with me putting up no fight whatsoever and giving into them. It turned out that social worker guy was moving this weekend and fully acknowledged he didn't show up or call to say he wasn't going to when I mentioned he had been a no show. To me if you're going to take on the responsibility of giving people bad news like he did Friday you should make sure your follow up with that person before 3 1/2 days go by and not make empty promises to them either when their vulnerable already. They want to send my Mom to some kind of nursing home but they aren't telling her why. The nurse said for rehab so she can come home probably but my Mom and I get the feeling that may not be true. It's like they waited for her to get near the time for discharge so we wouldn't be in the same place for long. She could use some physical therapy but there are therapists like that who come to people's homes through home health. Something just seems really fishy and my Mom and I are scared of what they are going to try and do to us next since they know we don't have any friends or family here to object to anything only each other. So basically they've gotten both of us out of the house so we won't be there when they clean it out. The social worker said neither of us being there wouldn't affect the court related stuff that's going on regarding the house but he's lied to me more than once so now I'm scared he was lying about that too. So we won't be there at all to know what they are going to throw away and what they won't. I was there when the guardian and the guy cleaned up some and I didn't get in their way or try to stop them at all but I was THERE. I'm fat and they didn't bring the stretcher up to the door and we live on that small hill. They made me walk from the door to the ambulance hanging onto the arms of one of the senior paramedics, then I had to climb into the ambulance with help and get myself off the floor of the ambulance onto the bench on the side that's inside and I rode to the hospital sitting on that not being strapped in at all. I feel humiliated, frustrated , scared, mad, sad and all sorts of other feelings. The social workers and etc were all saying they were there to help but it was all in that tone of voice people use when their patronizing someone. Hearing it said that way from so many people made me so frustrated on the inside. So here I am at 3:15am ct in the hospital bed alone typing this message while watching Big Brother After Dark worrying about what the hell they are going to do to us next. Sorry this is so long. I didn't get up to this room until after 10pm. | |
| Roxie | Posted: 30 June 2015 - 11:22 AM |
Well, shoot, I made a post but it didn't "stick." Anyway, just to send hugs. Could you bring yourself to tell the social worker how you felt? Maybe he had other pressures on him that didn't permit him to stick around or return? I think it is important that you perhaps think about what you can do in the future to meet other people and form friendships so you do not feel all alone. Hugs | |
| G | Posted: 30 June 2015 - 10:26 AM |
Oh Gem...it is so very harsh is so many ways. You take as good care of you as you can and I am soooo sorry for all you are going through and the upset on top of what was already not ok.....both for you and you Mom. Thanks for posting and hang in there. It is hard not being in control, especially when so much is out of control. No one knows who is not in your shoes.... HUGS | |
| Gem | Posted: 29 June 2015 - 10:51 PM |
Thank you to everyone for being so caring and supportive. When the social worker and his co-worker came out to tell me on Friday my Mom had no idea they were doing so and didn't even ask her permission. She's not happy about that fact. | |
| Gem | Posted: 29 June 2015 - 10:49 PM |
My Mom is still in the hospital. There's supposed to me some sort of meeting with the guardian, social worker and others tomorrow somewhere and they are going to discuss how they are and can help us. It just hurts that the social worker thought it was fine to only spend 5 min when he came to tell me about my Mom and then not to show up or call at all afterwards over the weekend and then again today when it was clear to him and his co-worker that I was upset when they left. | |
| G | Posted: 27 June 2015 - 10:26 AM |
it was supposed to say great big HUGE hugs for you and your Mom(sorry about the technical difficulties.... xxox | |
| G | Posted: 27 June 2015 - 10:24 AM |
Gem, I too am very sorry to hear about this news with your Mom. Thank you for sharing with us and staying in touch. After all the hard work to get someone to help and realize you need help, it is very sad to also find out this new news with your Mom I am sure. Glad it sounds like there are now people who are there and want to help, as well as people who are upset at how your many efforts were responded to. Maybe just maybe whatever the outcome will be for you Mom, it will be more supported now that there are what appears to be supportive people who know your guys circumstances involved. I too will keep you in my thoughts and hope you come back to chat to share maybe for Sunday meeting? We ARE here for you and as much as I know this is all very scary and overwhelming......please keep us updated here. May everything that cannot be changed be supported and helped with as much kindness as possible. For anything that can be changed! I wish from the bottom of my heart for the kindest most skilled patient and understanding support. Great big HUGE huge for you and your Mom...... G | |
| Roxie | Posted: 27 June 2015 - 09:52 AM |
G\((Gem)) I know you are hurting and I wish I could help. If it can help, rely upon us here at the board. There may be also other online groups or boards in which you could get involved, or if possible, a real-life support group. I am actually very heartened to hear about the kind of support your are now getting. Remember that it is true that "this, too, shall pass." What can we do to help you feel not so alone? | |
| LR2014 | Posted: 27 June 2015 - 07:48 AM |
Gem, I'm so sorry to hear that news about your mom. I'm also sorry that you didn't have much emotional support right after you got the news. I'll be thinking about you both! | |
| Gem | Posted: 26 June 2015 - 07:55 PM |
Well our lawyer for the house and the court guardian came to the door Wednesday and after some prodding I let the guardian in. She was nice about it all and even if she was disgusted she didn't show it. The lawyer stayed outside I think he could tell how scared I was about just letting the guardian in. The guardian called the mental health center who sent their mobile support team out who were a guy and gal. The pair talked to my Mom and then me and were very understanding when I told them how I had been trying to get help and how the police and even a social worker (who was the first person to tell me) I'd go to jail or needed to. The social worker from the MHC wanted to know if I knew who the crisis counselor was I talked when I called there because he seemed surprised when I told him all she had told me to do was make an appointment. Fast forward through some other stuff like the guardian and a guy helping clean up a bit in the den so the paramedics could get in because the social worker and her wanted my Mom to go to the hospital to get checked out yesterday. Our lawyer even went out and purchased a new bolt lock and knob/lock set and installed it (our old ones had been in the door since before 98 when we moved in) for us while my Mom was at the hospital and the guardian and the guy she brought were cleaning. As I mentioned before my Mom has had kidney cancer and had to have one removed and may have to have the other one removed too. Now while she's been in the hospital since yesterday they've found something in her head and I'm absolutely crushed. I only found out a a few hours ago. I'm just so sad and scared because my Nana died from lung and brain cancer when I was 12 and having to see her deteriorate like that was so hard because my Mom and I lived with her and she was like my other Mom. I don't know how I'm going to make it having to watch my Mom go in the same way if it comes to that. The social worker from the mental health center came to the door at the house with one of his co-workers and said he needed to talk to me about my Mom and I knew it was bad but I didn't think it would be something similar to my Nana's ordeal. I don't know what to do. I'm so scared. I know I shouldn't worry about something that hasn't happened yet confirmation I mean. When the social worker and his co-worker from the MH kinda came, told me and I started crying and then left I was just stunned. He said he'd be back tomorrow when he could spend more time with me but it kind of hurt to be left alone so quickly with that kind of information being so fresh. | |
| Roxie | Posted: 15 June 2015 - 11:01 AM |
Gem, I also don't want you to think badly of yourself. I don't hear you make excuses. Has anyone near you or related to you offered anything at all besides criticism or non-helpful advice? You could go to GoFundMe.com and see how people post fundraisers there since you have a computer. Might get some money to help? | |
| LR2014 | Posted: 15 June 2015 - 12:03 AM |
Gem, I don't think you're trying to make excuses. Yeah, I understand about the frustration with the "outside person" thing. I think that part of the problem is the "theme" of this particular season of the show. Instead of thinking of this as "begging," think of it as persistence. I'm hoping that your persistence is eventually going to pay off in terms of some kind of help! Sometimes, help comes at surprising times and in surprising ways. I'm glad to see you've posted. I was thinking about you earlier today! I don't know about your blood relative situation, but you have a "heart family" out here who is thinking about you and is cheering you on in this difficult situation. | |
| Gem | Posted: 14 June 2015 - 09:16 PM |
I know it sounds like all I do is make up excuses and I'm sorry about that. The producer wants to contact the people I tried asking about the show but I don't want them to think I begged the producer to try and get them to agree. I wish having an outside person wasn't a requirement. I don't want my Mom and I to have to go on TV to get help. Really just ready to give up everything. | |
| Gem | Posted: 09 June 2015 - 02:36 AM |
Nobody that I called ever called back. I didn't get a name for the lady at the health department. I think I'm going to try calling there today and see if I can get the same lady. Here's to hoping I remember her voice. Cory referred us to some cleanup company that's not really near here but said would try and work with us. After I sent pictures though that place said my best bet was the TV show because they would charge us $10,000 to $15,000 or more. | |
| Gem | Posted: 09 June 2015 - 02:29 AM |
The TV show seemed like it was our last hope but it doesn't seem like that's going to work out either because we don't have any friends or family to drag onto the show with us. We just want this stuff out of here so bad. Some of it has been falling and when you try and pick it up more falls. I'm a member of a group about this on FB and had to quit responding there because people kept telling me all I did was make up excuses. I don't know if they didn't get how bad it is or didn't believe the health issues my Mom and I have. I was honest with them but some of the stuff they were suggesting wasn't possible. It gets so tiring having to explain things in such detail and even then so many people don't get it. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 13 May 2015 - 01:20 PM |
Just popping in to say hello. Write when you can--no pressure--just want you to know I'm thinking of you! | |
| LR2014 | Posted: 11 May 2015 - 01:37 AM |
Ditto to what Tatoulia said! You have friends here who are cheering for you! (I wish I were in a position to do more than just "cheer" at the moment!) | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 10 May 2015 - 06:49 PM |
Great work, Gem! You did a lot on Friday! Congratulations on your hard work and for not giving up when the going got tough! I am happy you posted. Keep up the good work and keep us posted! I am right by your side. I sure your mother is very proud of your perseverance. | |
| Gem | Posted: 10 May 2015 - 03:58 PM |
Friday I called places and got varying results. I tried calling Catholic Social Services and they told me they had never been asked about hording help before and if my home was cluttered with actual stuff that I should box and bag it up for the disabled veteran charities or other places here to come pick up. She told me to call the mental health center to get myself some counseling. She wanted off the phone with me ASAP. This place made me feel like we were the only hoarders ever to live in MS. The mental health center and the crisis counselor could only tell me I needed to come in. It's not near us and if I did get there once for an appointment there's no guarantee I could get back there and would probably get discharged not long after for not showing up to appointments. She told me to call churches too, call human services myself and admit our issues and call the health department. She told me I needed to put stuff in trash bags and get it out of the house even if it was just on the lawn. I old her if I could do that our house would have never gotten this way. She got on to me for waiting so long to seek help. I told her I've tried contacting places and they either tell me it will be big $$$, don't know what to do or tell me to call other places. I waited so long because the social worker a couple years ago when the house was barely messy was already telling me I would probably go to jail. The mention of jail was enough to make me want to crawl in a hole and die. Oh and the counselor said I may need to call the police again for help if I can't get any other help. I thought to myself "yeah right" after the verbal beatdown the cop today gave me I don't know of anyone who would want to call the police for any kind of help after that. I found a name and number for a hoarding therapist in New Orleans on the Louisiana resource listing here which is kinda near and talked to her for a bit when I called. She called back and said her brother who lives in this city and is a hoarder too who she's helping and that she would call the TV show and try and see if she could get us any further with that. She also said she'd try and see if she could find any other resources here in MS that might be able to help. I called the health department too yesterday and got a nice woman who was a social worker there and said she and a co worker were going to brainstorm this weekend and try and see if they could find some help for us. I'm just scared about tomorrow and feel like I'm on death row and my execution is tomorrow. I'm doing the best I can to make my Mom's Mother's Day somewhat enjoyable though. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 10 May 2015 - 07:35 AM |
Hi Gem, just checking in. Write when you can. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 08 May 2015 - 06:53 PM |
Oh Gem my heart breaks for you. I am so sorry that this happened today. Please, it is not your fault and you shouldn't be afraid to post here. I'm so glad that you did. You and your mother have a serious situation and no one should yell at you or abuse you. I don't know what to say to you. this must've been very frightening for you and your mother. It sounds like the police escalated the matter when you needed some compassion. That is unfair to you and to your mother. I am so sorry about all of this. Thank you so much for posting. I don't know anything about the show's requirements or screening process but am praying you find help. Real help, not just some jerk yelling at you. Please, please keep us posted. And know that if I could swoop in and help, I would. And if I knew the righ thing to say, I'd say it. But for now, just know that I am standing by your side and I am so glad you wrote, | |
| Gem | Posted: 08 May 2015 - 02:02 PM |
I tried calling the Ph.D guy listed for Mississippi under the listing here and got the respatory department of the hospital he was supposed to be at. The gal hung up on me when I tried to explain who I was calling. After some Googling I discovered that guy who was the Ph.D and who's name is all over the internet on lists for help in MS died in 2009. http://djournal.com/obituaries/obituaries-june-4-2009/ | |
| Gem | Posted: 08 May 2015 - 01:58 PM |
My fault for waiting I know this so please don't tell me that in any replies. I've been kicked and verbally abused enough today. The police were here again about an hour and a half ago. I guess someone in the neighborhood called again this time because of the mailbox being full. It was either that or the pizza guy last night who comes here often because we order a lot from there and other places because we can't cook in the kitchen. That pizza guy "jokes" a lot about all the boxes behind me that he can see. So I'm wondering if it was him who called last night because he was acting really weird. I was so exausted last night that I forgot to lock the door so I got woken up by the policemen already in the house asking if anyone lived here and where we were. Even though this is a house it's laid out more like an apartment and the size of it too. My Mom's room is catty corner to mine and I stood at my doorframe trying to talk to the one policeman out of the four who came in who was doing all the talking. He was screaming and yelling at me but my Mom couldn't make out what he was saying because she's hard of hearing. He kept asking how I could make her live like this, why I thought it was ok and how disgusting the house and I was for letting it get this way. I told him I was trying to get help and he told me I needed to do a hell of a lot more then that and that he was calling Adult Protective Services and that I will probably go to jail. He thought my Mom was completely bed ridden because she has a hospital bed bed she can get up and walk around. He and some policeman I couldn't see were saying if she did get up she'd probably break her neck. I asked the main guy if he had ever seen the show Hoarders and of course he said no and said again how wouldn't have to see it to know that I'm just a disgusting human being who likes to live in filth and that I have no problem letting my sick Mom live in too. That I should be ashamed of myself. I kept begging them to just leave and call human services because I couldn't take being yelled at, called names and being told what an awful person I was anymore by the one guy. I called the Hoarders people back and sent Cory Chalmers another message on FB saying I needed to speak with him as soon as he had time. I got off the phone with the producer for the show who had called before and told her everything that went on and our situation. She said this season they have to have a family member or friend who hasn't been in the house for years that they can talk to too. The problem is we don't have any friends and haven't seen family in over 20yrs. I just gave her the name of a cousin I talk to on FB who is really nice but I'm doubting he'll want to be the "family member" they speak to to help us get help. I don't want to go to jail. I'm too sick for jail. They think because I can stand up and talk to them that I'm fine and should have been able to prevent all of this. | |
| Concerned | Posted: 07 April 2015 - 12:07 AM |
Hi Gem | |
| dave | Posted: 01 March 2015 - 08:01 PM |
I found this for Gulfport, if that's useful. You would have to ask Cory if he has any comments about the company (ies). http://www.junkbusters.org/junk-removal-prices.php | |
| dave | Posted: 01 March 2015 - 07:53 PM |
There is a national organization called Love, Inc. that has affiliates in a few communities around the country. I do not see any listed for Mississipi. There is one listed in Lafayette LA. You could try contacting them and see if they are aware of any groups in Southern Mississipi that do a similar type of thing. | |