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Subclinical
Posted: 27 August 2025 - 04:59 AM
Good morning!

I ended up not working outside at all yesterday. I did not walk down to get the mail.

I did do the next step on my basement project and I made a small dent in the paperwork (it's mostly not "paper" actually) some online health care stuff, emailing someone about information I needed (she got back to me right away!), ordering some basic supplies I'm out of, and I found a missing (paper) check.

I mostly cleaned up after myself, but I at least cleaned up more than I messed up (there are some dishes from yesterday in the sink, but I ran the dishwasher twice), I washed and dried a load of laundry that is still in the dryer, but I put two other clean loads away...

On the dining porch I cleared and swept the section of floor where my little office area is (inspired by Messi) and I sorted out a stack of actual paper and recycled a lot of it. I have my little Japanese table and mat all ready to do some more work this morning. A hummingbird came to visit while I was working. I found three items to part with (already tallied)

My biggest use of energy was resisting diet soda all day. (Which is part of why I didn't get outside to work - my body kept saying "I'm tired, give me caffeine!" And i kept saying no.)

Today is a school prep and errands day, but I will keep trying to clean up as I go.
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Subclinical
Posted: 26 August 2025 - 06:14 AM
Good morning!

Messi, did the trash and recycling go out? How is your bedroom spot?

The wedding sounds exciting. Can you move one thing away from your water meter today so you know you started? Any small thing.

I spent the day with the boys yesterday and picked up my finally fired lamp project from the studio in town. It cracked in the glaze firing, but I still love it. The crack is really bad - but mostly on the bottom where it doesn't show. I think I can work with the part that cracked on the side- it is toward the back and this has always been planned as a multimedia project.

Today is supposed to be cool and pleasant - finally! So a good day for working outside.

I also need to do the next step on the basement project and take care of some of this looming paperwork. It's a staying home day.

I slept late because I have just been really tired lately and I'm doing more physically demanding stuff. I'm also trying to cut back on/eliminate the diet colas again (so less caffeine) I was drinking way too many and I did the math on how much it costs in a year if I drink even 2 a day (O8)! (that's an emoji, not a number) I read a humorous post about diet and exercise in which the author referred to diet sodas as "fridge cigarettes". Now when I want one I chant that in my head a bunch of times. It is helping. But it has only been 3 days. My count has been zero, one, zero. The reduction in cans will also slow the recycling pile up.

Dh is gone until late tonight, so all I have to do to wake up tomorrow ahead of where I am this morning is clean up after myself, process any mail that comes in, and take care of one additional item. (Well, and some laundry I guess, because he will throw his dirty clothes in the hamper when he gets home.)

That should be easy, right?
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messi
Posted: 25 August 2025 - 11:39 PM
thanks for all the reinforcement and good suggestions for maintaining and maybe creating another small piece of order. I get very overwhelmed, distracted, and discouraged, but now I can think back to your words and keep working on change, little by little. Recently I try use the mantra "One by One, things will get done" to help me focus when I start chasing my tail.
The task for my friend took two days instead of one, yesterday and today, so I didn't get to my task for today. Which Is - clear out a space in the basement by the water meter because I have to get a new house shut-off valve for the water. which will make it possible to address other plumbing issues in the house. This is My goal for the week, but I have to prepare things for my friend's daughter's wedding this coming weekend and go out of town Saturday. Those things come first. Tonight, trash and recycling out to the curb. ty
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Subclinical
Posted: 24 August 2025 - 09:11 AM
Hi Messi!

You a have a clean section of floor! Guard it ferociously! Go look at it when you feel overwhelmed. You did that!

Keep an eye out for anything you can do around the edges of that space to help it grow and spread. If you are tempted to put something in that space, try to stop yourself. Imagine how nice it will be when your whole bedroom floor is clean! You can do that. It doesn't have to happen all at once, but little by little it can happen!

Good luck on your task.
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messi
Posted: 24 August 2025 - 08:03 AM
O my goodness! Such a lot of inspiration from Lila and Subclinical! and much needed. This is a difficult time of year for me, so i need a lot of help to stay on task. Today I need to finish a task for a friend that got derailed earlier this year. That is priority aside from dogs and a meeting. I did sweep out a section of floor in the bedroom this morning - must have been inspired by Lila even before seeing her posts. Ty.
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Subclinical
Posted: 24 August 2025 - 07:29 AM
Good morning!

Dd called yesterday to cancel the overnight because buddy is cutting a tooth and very clingy and sad.

But I still have open house today.

I sorted out the bag from school yesterday. I am keeping the rug, an unopened pack of construction paper (doesn't count - consumable) and maybe some number of magnetic pouches (I need to wash them and see how they work to hold bean's fridge letters and magnet "paper dolls" (animals, cars, scenery, people..)

This morning I am getting ready to go to open house and puttering about. It's nice and cool, but everything is still covered in dew and I don't want to work in the garden because I will need another shower before open house.
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Subclinical
Posted: 23 August 2025 - 04:17 PM
Lila, great job on your desk!

Mine was just my work desk, so the hardest choices were things like "do I recycle this scrap paper or save it for notes?" "If I walk this little piece of pipe cleaner down the hall to the supply closet will anyone ever use it, or should I just throw it away?"

Definitely put the hair in an envelope. Label the envelope and keep going! Do not let this derail you from a clear and clean desk!

I stopped at an adoption tent today when I got feed. As soon as I touched the first kitten I was like "nope. Not yet."

I have pressure washed all the blue puzzle mat pieces from my basement floor, plus 11 more that were in the stack of puzzle mat pieces I brought home from school one year when (yup) the building manager was throwing them out because they were dirty and worn.

I have also pressure washed my green rug. It was filthy and took quite a while! I measured and it will fit perfectly. Plus I really wanted green because it will be fields and yards for Bean when he sets up trains or playmobil.

I did a couple of loads of laundry (but didn't put them away) and ran the dishwasher. I also unloaded my car, got feed, and returned my library books.

I haven't done any of my paperwork. Dh wants to wait and drop the truck tomorrow evening so he can use it tomorrow. It just has to be there by Monday morning.
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Lila
Posted: 23 August 2025 - 02:12 PM
ohhh we are desk sisters, SubC! I just worked on my desk for one hour. And around it.

I was able to get donate 4 items. I also sorted ALL the papers, even in the folders piled on my desk, and I am sure I threw away more than half of the papers.

However, it was very emotionally draining. There were a lot of papers regarding Teen, and my dog that passed away, and my former husband. And under it all, dog hair. Of the dog I lost in March, my heart boy. I am not over it, I am still in a lot of pain about it, and I just could not cope. I left the hair there. I have a thing about throwing it all away so there is no trace of him anywhere in my house. I got over it enough to vacuum the whole house. I saved some of his hairs in a box. I almost never find a hair of his anywhere. This is probably the last 'organic' trace. I just can't. I might have to wipe it all into an envelope or something so I can clean the rest of the desk. I can save the envelope and deal with it later.

But, it was all overwhelming, and I am taking a lunch break now.

I am proud of myself for sorting every item on my desk, and it will be nice when it gets all cleaned off.
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Subclinical
Posted: 23 August 2025 - 05:49 AM
Good morning!

Go Lila!
Be sure to have nice big containers for trash and recycling when you tackle that desk!

I worked in my classroom for 7 hours yesterday with a two hour break to buy a supply I needed and have a lovely long lunch with heartdaughter. Near the end my Dd stopped by with Bean and I said "I need to tackle this desk. Dd said "looks easy. Grab the trash can and the recycling bin. Pick something up. Ask yourself "does this recycle?" If the answer is yes, recycling bin. If the answer is no, trash. Keep going until the desk is empty - there is nothing there you need." I told her "not helpful."

She did then carry items from the desk to locations I requested while I did in fact recycle and trash a bunch of stuff. Well, it felt like a lot, but when she took the trash out for me, the bag was only about the size of a full plastic grocery bag.

Meanwhile, the building manager decided she was going to take DD's approach to the hallways and gathered up almost every remaining thing teachers had left out for other teachers to take to throw it in the dumpster so the school would look nice for open house. My car is full. Including a high traffic area rug for my basement that I took OUT of the dumpster. (It needs to be power washed. I have a power washer. The school doesn't.) We now have a "rug service" that will switch out our rugs every two weeks and bring them back clean two weeks later - so the building manager threw all the old rugs in the dumpster. The one I took is green. The rest are black. I would have taken more of them, but they are heavy and hard to get out of a dumpster, and my car was full. Most of what I took will go to the thrift store or recycling/reuse hub. Any thing I keep (like the rug) I will claim in the tally later.

Today is a home and errand day. Unload car, feed store, library returns, drop truck off for body work (somebody hit us, their insurance is paying, but we'll be truckless for a bit) various paperwork tasks, dishes, laundry, prep for open house and visit from boys - I will be bringing them back after open house to spend the night. This will be Buddy's first overnight without momma!
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Lila
Posted: 22 August 2025 - 10:03 PM
Second hour in room:

Note that the section I am working on has been sorted and purged repeatedly this year! So hour 2 I only donated one item, but I put a lot of things in their actual place, and I emptied 2 boxes and threw out trash and consolidated and threw the boxes out.

I also vacuumed more. I did put all the random loose parts that I am not sure what they go to into one small box which will go in the sorting room. It is cords and parts, I think to the computers in my bedroom. Another day I will try them out and get rid of any that are not useful.

What was left is still a bit much but it is all in one small area. I am just not sure what to do with it. Will reconsider.

Next area will be the desk, omg, it is pile upon pile.
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Lila
Posted: 22 August 2025 - 02:36 PM
First hour in the room:
- sorted several boxes of protein bars, threw away expired ones, bagged some for my son, kept just enough that I will actually eat
- sorted a bin of kitchen items and donated a bunch
- vacuumed up some open areas, unclogged vacuum
- started in far corner, sorting, tossing, donating

I did change my "save for later" box to a donate box. So far there is nothing in my save for later box :)

15 items gone to trash or donate, many items sorted and put in their places.

Resting and will go back in! I am working from one corner inward and around the room.
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Lila
Posted: 22 August 2025 - 01:37 PM
omg SubC, THANK YOU! Reading those brought me to happy tears. It means so much to me that you took the time to "speak to me in my language," the scriptures (Messi, I am a ministry leader at a church) to touch my heart in a new way right before I am about to get up and work on my bedroom! I will echo these words in my heart as I work.

As an interesting note, that last verse, where it says
But give as alms those things that are within, and behold, everything is clean for you. - Luke 11:41

I looked it up and the original Greek word there in the bible for "clean" is the root word for "cathartic", with associations to the good kind of purging resulting in cleanness and is also associated with worship. That is pretty profound to me!

Off I go! I will report back after my first adventure into the room (I expect to do short stints of time in there with breaks to do other things like laundry, brush the dog, go outside, etc).
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Subclinical
Posted: 22 August 2025 - 05:08 AM
Good morning!

Tatoulia, thanks for the check in!

Messi, how are you doing with dog walking? Trash? Do you feel ok about your fridge?

I usually address you guys first, but I'm popping back up to talk about my day before my note to Lila, because I want her to end reading this focused on herself.

I did not get most of my stuff done yesterday because I spent the entire afternoon online and on the phone - mostly with automated systems, trying unsuccessfully to get help with a medical records mess triggered by this whole swimming thing (short version- my primary care practice dropped me and I can't access my health records from before 2024). At one point I got so frustrated that the actual human I had finally reached (who couldn't help me) had trouble understanding me because I started crying. I gave up when everything closed for the day. I did a little sorting in the basement to try to soothe my nervous system. (Isn't that a change!)

Today I am going to focus on school and try to meet my heartdaughter, whom I haven't seen all summer, for lunch or dinner.

Lila, usually "back to school" time gives me a huge surge of energy. I'm feeling a little discouraged this year that I can't seem to find my usual level of enthusiasm. It makes me wonder if I've been teaching too long. Especially because I have two new coworkers this year whom I taught as children! Hopefully it's just that the heat has been particularly hard on my all summer and the cooler weather will snap me out of it.

I'm sorry yesterday was so hard. I think about teen sometimes and I hope that the place she is is helping her.

Here is my encouragement for "project bedroom":

Do you have a place to donate to that gives items to those in need or sells them to help people in need like St. Vincent's or the Salvation Army? My Mom takes everything to a church thrift called Halo.

I'm asking because I know that you are a Christian and that the Bible is a source of encouragement for you in this task. I was trying to look up the story about the servant who buried his talent (resources) in the ground to keep it safe instead of investing it for his master, to see if it could help you with not boxing things, but I found these:

Do not neglect to do good and to share what you have, for such sacrifices are pleasing to God. - Hebrews 13:16

Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. Provide yourselves with moneybags that do not grow old, with a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys. - Luke 12:33

Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. - Luke 6:38

But give as alms those things that are within, and behold, everything is clean for you. - Luke 11:41

I particularly like the last one in this situation!

The Bible tells people to give of what they have:

For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, so in Christ, we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others. We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with your faith; if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach; if it is to encourage, then give encouragement; if it is giving, then give generously; if it is to lead, do it diligently; if it is to show mercy, do it cheerfully. - Romans 12:4-8

You have been struggling so hard to give time and energy that you do not have to spare, because you can't give generously in money. But you have a generous supply of stuff. So much stuff that you can afford to box it up and stash it away. So I am hoping that you have a place that can turn your extra stuff into good in the world and that this will help inspire you to let the stuff go as you work to follow the encouragement to "keep your house in order".

Bless others with the things you don't need now and trust that the blessings will return to you when you need them.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 21 August 2025 - 10:46 PM
Quick drive by to say hello. Welcome, Messi!
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Lila
Posted: 21 August 2025 - 10:07 PM
Thank you Messi, I am glad this was encouraging to you!

SubC, you are doing a lot. Yay on the good blood pressure and the good shelf!! Do you find your motivation or energy is better this time of year? Mine is the worst in winter.

Today I worked, went to a funeral, and walked dogs at the shelter and almost got bit. Strays can be unpredictable, sadly, but I did not get bit. I was in a sad mood due to the funeral and some grief that bubbled back up about my other dogs and Teen (who is no longer a teen, how sad is that, that I missed her 20th birthday? She is in an institution now). Anyway I stopped everything early and came home because I felt overwhelmed and needed to just decompress, but when I got here TotsMom had TWO extra kids here, older kids and it was complete chaos. I got a headache and an upset stomach from the stress but now they have left to go somewhere else but now I just want to sit and cry. I am usually okay, and better lately, but sometimes, the grief is just bubbling up again.

Anyway, the room.

Tonight I am "preparing" to have a good day tomorrow. I am
- loading the dishwasher and will run it before bed
- hand washing the cookie sheets etc
- throwing out trash as tomorrow is trash day
- putting dirty clothes in the basket to wash tomorrow

Tomorrow my goal is to get my room halfway done or more. Even if I pack it all in boxes and move it to sorting space, I want to have an organized, decluttered, clean bedroom by Sunday. Big goal - it looks like a thrift store after an earthquake - but I am going to try.

Somehow it is easier to throw half the clothes into a box for "later" than to donate it. But I will try to donate things and not just move it all around. But really, the goal is to have a clean room for the first time in like 15 years or something.
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Subclinical
Posted: 21 August 2025 - 06:35 AM
Good morning!

We got some interesting news about the possible long term future of the school at the staff meeting yesterday. Nothing is going to happen for a year or two, but there are some possibilities I may want to be a part of.

I did almost nothing I had planned to do during our work hours. There was a large, good quality shelf being removed from a storage area and I said "can I have that?" It fits perfectly under my windows and holds a lot of items that were in a hodgepodge of storage solutions. But I had to unload everything that was there and remove the things that were leaving. I also had to haul the shelf upstairs (using the freight elevator and a cart).

So I got the kiln unloaded - planned
Got the old storage emptied and removed - not planned
Put the shelf in place - not planned
Went to a two hour lunch meeting - planned
Started filling the shelf mindfully - not planned

I have to go back tomorrow and glue tiles to the wall, finish organizing my stuff (my desk is BURIED), print out welcome packets, exchange a work table (they tried to fix one of mine but it is still too wobbly. I found a replacement in storage), carry the small wheel back up to my room and set it up again, and set my room up for open house.

i had planned to do all of that except the work table yesterday. Also yesterday I was expecting the stuff organizing to be a much smaller task.

Today I am at home and have another much too long list, including typing up everything that has to be printed out for the welcome packets for eight classes.

The current situation with my basement is feeling very overwhelming because it is well into the "worse before it gets better" stage but likely to continue downhill for a bit.

Bright spot - Dh is signing us up for the health center at his job again. I had to go get my BP taken by them yesterday and it was 113/67. First time in a long time I have had a good reading not at home. If my gp clears me (I'm a bit concerned because I haven't been to the gp in years - like, some time precovid) I will be able to start swimming after school. If my gp says "who?" I don't know what I will need to do. The last time I saw them, they made me fill out new patient paperwork because I hadn't been in so long. Basically the gp is where I get my tetanus shots. (My eye doctor and gyno pretty much cover all of my actual health concerns - I suggested they contact the gyno, but just embarrassed the boy taking my blood pressure who said," no, I'm sure the gp will be fine"

Messi and Lila, keep up the good work!

Hi Tatoulia!

We miss you CM!
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messi
Posted: 20 August 2025 - 11:45 PM
Lila - thanks for posting about what you did and give yourself points from me. Those things are a great start, they changed something, and reading about it encourages me to do those smaller things that totally improve the big picture.
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Lila
Posted: 20 August 2025 - 09:58 PM
oh, first teacher day! I hope it went well SubC!

Good job on the fridge and dogs, Messi!

In my room, what I did:
- folded the towels that have been in a basket on the floor for a month, and put them all away
- put the empty basket downstairs
- took an empty Kleenex box out to the trash
- threw away some old dried out dog treats that have been sitting on my desk for months
- found my grounding mat under a pile and put it back on my bed and plugged it in

It's not much, but it's a start. I had to go to work.

I will be working on this on my days off, Fri and Sat.
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Messi
Posted: 20 August 2025 - 08:24 AM
Subclinical - Good luck with the first teacher day of the year. I hope you have a great teaching year!
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Subclinical
Posted: 19 August 2025 - 09:27 PM
Good evening!

Messi, good job on the fridge. Also yay for walking the dog. Do you have any goals or spots you'd like to work on that will make you feel better?

Lila, you are DEFINITELY worth good quality clothes. Also, cheap quality things are usually more expensive the long run. Plus, you can get good quality cheap if you watch for sales and shop second hand.

Look around to see what you like. Take yourself shopping somewhere you can't afford and try things on. No one will stop you. If the sales people get pushy, tell them, oh, I'm not buying today. I'm making a list for my friend who is helping me update my wardrobe. She couldn't come with me today because she lives in Ohio. Make notes about what you like - brands, stores, styles, fabric, colors, and come tell us about them.

I you can sometimes buy a $75 top off a clearance rack for $20. One $20 top you love is a cheaper and better choice than a $10 top and a couple of $6 tops that don't make you happy. And it would take up less space and probably last longer.

Right now my closet is my favorite "room" in my house. It is a walk in and I actually go stand in it when I need a lift. I don't miss any of the clothes I got rid of, because I wasn't wearing them anyway.

What did you do in your bedroom today?

I did go to the thrift store. I did not find a rug. But I did find some work mats (large square napkins) for 40 cents each for my class and a small six drawer steel cabinet for me for $5.

I came home and puttered around a little more and found four things that can go - one is a gallon+ sized bag of beads I am taking to one of the other art teachers at school tomorrow. The others are small, but two of them were hard because they were sentimental, but I've realized I don't need them to keep the memories or the feelings.

Tomorrow is our first teacher day. We have an all staff meeting at lunch time.
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messi
Posted: 19 August 2025 - 06:51 PM
WooHoo SubC and Lila! Changes! Yikes and Yays! for me, i came here to report i got rid of 4 things from the refrigerator that had been there too long, doing that as a prelude to walking the dogs. I'm off before it gets too dark. Thanks!
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Lila
Posted: 19 August 2025 - 12:54 PM
SubC, thank you for the thoughts on clothes! I do wish we could drop in and have an in person visit sometimes too. If you ever get out to the Pacific Northwest, maybe you can come by and see the famous Counter of Piles and Bedroom of Doom! Although by that point, it will all be cleaned up right?? :)

My "cheap" clothes are super cheap, as I do not have a large income. The shirts were $6 to $10 each with free shipping and free returns. So back they went! I think I do not believe I am "worth" buying good quality clothes.

Wow, great job on the basement!! That will be so nice and make a real difference for your grandkids! So happy you are doing this. It is encouraging me, that when my family moves out, I can make the downstairs a welcoming place to hang out for them, too!

Hi Messi! So glad you are here with us! You are making progress with your small steps, be proud of yourself.

I am working long hours today but don't have to go in until noon. Then will work straight through until about 10pm. So relaxing this morning.

I woke up this morning and suddenly it's like I have "new eyes" in my bedroom. My eyes were opened and I SAW the piles. Do you know what I mean? I saw them and remembered something my boss (a pastor) said to me this week. He said something like I probably do need to make sure I take my two days off each week, then he named some reasons, one of which was "to have time to keep your home in order." I was like omg. It is not in order, and that is actually a Biblical thing, to have a home of order. So this morning I "saw" my bedroom, for real, and had a newly strong desire to have it a place of peace and order. I also am not waiting until my day off to start. I am starting right now, when I finish this post, and will aim to complete it on my days off. Even if that means SOME of it gets boxed up and moved to the sorting room, it is important to me now to have a home in order, starting with my bedroom, MY space that no one else comes into, and no one else messes up!

Please bug me about this and help me stay focused and give updates Friday and Saturday!!
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Subclinical
Posted: 19 August 2025 - 12:21 PM
I am tired. I am hungry. I am covered in paint. But after 2 hours and 45 minutes of work, the wall is painted and the painting tools are washed.

It looks much better!

I definitely deserve a thrift trip to look for a rug!
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Subclinical
Posted: 19 August 2025 - 09:27 AM
Messi, thanks for the cheering.

I love having the people here to celebrate with because in the real world if you say "look! This side of the basement has cupboards that are falling apart on one wall, with a bunch of different stuff shoved in, but one of them only has food in it, and I think almost none of it is expired, and there is another shelf on that wall next to the chest freezer with the bins piled on top of it, which is really full, but not overloaded, and then this other wall has two huge overloaded storage racks, but the floor is clear except for this 200 cubic foot pile of bins and boxes.and this table with all the art supplies piled two feet deep."

They don't say "this is amazing! You have six clear feet in front of that fourth wall! And you're going to paint it? That will really brighten up the place!" They say something like "well, it's bad, but not too bad. I bet we could clear it out on Saturday if we really worked at it."

I know, because Dh asked me if I was going to clear out the rest of it and paint the whole room.

Anyway, did an hour and a half in the garden and have spent 30 minutes cooling down, so now I think I'm ready to paint!
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messi
Posted: 19 August 2025 - 07:51 AM
SubC - congrats on the progress you have made and are making in the basement!

It is encouraging me.
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Subclinical
Posted: 19 August 2025 - 07:16 AM
Good morning.

Today is a "home alone" day - Dh is working at the office and then playing golf this evening, and I have no people scheduled to come.

In a few minutes I am going out to work in my garden until I get too hot (on Sunday I was only able to do 20 minute shifts) and then come back inside and paint the basement wall.

I have foam mats I need to scrub before putting them back down on the floor, and I may take a trip to the thrift store to look for an area rug.

My goal is to create a warm and welcoming play area down there and have most of the toys Bean plays with easily accessible.

When I started this journey - over ten years ago - that side of the basement was a warren of boxes, bins, and loose objects crammed into shelves and piled to the ceiling (and our basement has 11 foot ceilings) with "aisles" where you had to turn sideways and sometimes step over things. I was able to create a small play area for Bean a few years ago, but it isn't nice - it's just open space with the mats on the floor.
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Subclinical
Posted: 17 August 2025 - 06:57 PM
Checking back in. Made some progress on my basement project (primer on a wall I'm going to paint.)

Also moved some things from two boxes to one storage bin. Added five actual items to my out bag and changed my mind about the cardboard boxes. I'm not going to count them as outs.
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Subclinical
Posted: 17 August 2025 - 02:03 PM
Good afternoon!

Hi Messi! Cheers for having your meds. And remembering to take them!

Also I'm glad you replaced your bras. You can get a long way on a goodnight of sleep, a healthy breakfast, and comfortable shoes and underwear.

I've been puttering around today and I have come to a decision about the boxes. For every new container in use, I will let myself count one cardboard box out - but the box has to actually be generated, so if the container allows me to consolidate two boxes, I will only count one of them as an out. But also, if I get a box emptied and it uses more than one container, I will only count that one box as out, not carry over. Because when I get rid of empty storage objects - I count them out, so I don't want to double dip too much if I eliminate the contents of some of these later and count them out.

The storage containers were chosen because they will make better, more efficient use of available space than the random boxes do.
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messi
Posted: 17 August 2025 - 10:43 AM
good morning! Subclinical, thanks for asking about my meds. Yes, I did go get them. they have a place on the counter for now, so that I see them and don't forget to use them.
sorry to hear about dd and her friend's loss. take care of yourself.
The other day i took a look at the daily tally board and i had to laugh at your post because that day I had two bras coming in the mail, on sale, free shipping; it took me a long time to find and buy something that fit and it is such a relief. so that is what I get now. pricier in the beginning but so worth it, lol, and i don't waste time and money trying other things out that don't work. I had two of them bite the dust recently so the sale was perfect incentive.
in regard to boxes, DEFINITELY count them as an out. Acquiring too many of them is its own kind of issue. (this through experience)
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Subclinical
Posted: 17 August 2025 - 05:31 AM
Good morning!

Messi, did you get your meds? Do you have a place to keep them where they won't get lost or buried?

My house is a wreck right now. The plan for the weekend changed significantly.

DD's best friend lost her father (both unexpectantly and not - she lost the person he was several years ago and did not know how many years of being basically his guardian through medical emergencies and various crisises she had left) and instead of going to the camp out, Dd spent all day yesterday with her and Buddy stayed here with us. Dd got back very late last night and I'm tired. (I couldn't sleep late because Dh got up early to go play golf)

Dd and Buddy are still asleep. They are leaving this morning to go help pack up the campsite because Bean and dsil have the small car and don't have room for everything.

I have, once again, a very long list of things to do that probably won't get done. The boys are back tomorrow, so I'm thinking about just ignoring the toys all over the floor. The dishes I need to do though.
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Messi
Posted: 16 August 2025 - 08:07 AM
Hi. more later, but for now, i just need to set a goal of picking up meds today, have put it off and need to get on track. so, i'm off and running...
thanks
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Subclinical
Posted: 15 August 2025 - 05:52 PM
Ok, that was a lot.

Take anything that helps and ignore the rest.

Sometimes I do wish we could drop in on each other.

Maybe you could help me with the food block I'm struggling with at the moment. I just don't want to cook. At All. And I'm hot all the time and don't want to go in the garden, which is showing it.
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Subclinical
Posted: 15 August 2025 - 03:57 PM
Hi Lila.

I am proud of you for sending the clothes back. But I wish I could come help you redo your wardrobe!

First, don't buy any more things online cheap. If they are cheap, they are going to be fast fashion and you are going to hate them.

What do you like about the tops you "sort of" like? Those are your first clues. Now, you have clothes to wear, even if you don't love them, you have them, so you can wear them.

Here is my approach to clothes - Dh says I have "peanut butter and caviar" taste.

What this means is that I either want something really nice and good quality that is exactly right, or the cheapest acceptable option. So I do most of my clothes shopping in thrift stores. The great thing about thrift stores is that they have so many different styles and brands. See if you can take a day and just try on a bunch of stuff to see how different necklines, sleeves, lengths and cuts work on you. Make notes. If you find brands that seem like good quality but don't fit, make notes. There are also virtual try on apps.

Then, look for some high quality pieces that you can use as everyday basics (check out capsule wardrobes for ideas.)try searching "sustainable plus size"

If you find one top that you love, get it in several colors - try poshmark, eBay, and thread up for good prices on used clothes (which sometimes haven't even been worn) or watch the brand for sales.

I don't know what your range of "cheap" is, but I'm guess you are paying return postage, so on average you are spending a lot in search of a good top.

I always bought my shorts at goodwill and they were usually worn and cost about $5. They last a couple of years and generally fit/look ok. Sometimes I would buy a pair that didn't quite fit thinking I would get into it - $5 wasted.

I have stopped buying clothes "for later"

My Dd got me a pair of $75 shorts for Christmas a few years ago. (She bought them on sale $37.50 plus 20% off your first order) I still think that is expensive. But I love them. They look good on me (I've been told) very comfortable, functional pockets. I loved them so much I bought another pair the next summer ($37.50 plus 20% off your first order) I have since added two more pairs. I have found them for as little as $12 in excellent condition online resale. I hardly ever wear any other shorts. I have not bought other shorts at goodwill since. So for about $92, I have gotten at least 360 days of shorts (probably more) so, less than 26 cents per wear. Maybe I could have gotten just as much wear out of $20 worth of goodwill shorts, but the goodwill shorts would have been not quite right - tugging or rubbing, or chafing or squeezing or not the right color and just generally not making me feel good about myself, plus they would be ratty and need replacing by now, and these are still in great shape. Those are clothes "for cheap" a $10 sweater you wear twice is actually more expensive.

And eventually, you will have enough nice, good quality clothes to get you through a couple of weeks and be ready to ditch all the not quite right stuff. But don't settle. If you can't find exactly right, keep wearing what you have until it is worn out or you hate it so much you get rid of it.
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Lila
Posted: 15 August 2025 - 01:04 PM
post 2 today -

I have such a problem with clothes!!!

I hope you will be proud of me for this. I a fit of frustration, last week I ordered 4 tops from online cheap. I got 3 of them. I tried them on and kind of hated them because the fabric was too thin but also just "gave up" in my head and thought, "at least I will have something to wear even if I do look like crap." (see where my head is?) But then 2 days ago, I had a re-think and decided to return them. They have been mailed and I got a refund. There is still 1 item coming but if I don't love it, it is going back.

My bedroom has devolved again and there are clean clothes draped over the rocking chair, office chair, desk, etc. I don't know what my issue is. I can never find anything I LOVE to wear, so I do wear the same 5 or 6 tops all the time that I "sort of like." I have gotten rid of SO MANY clothes.

Bottom line is, with the weight I have gained, I hate how I look, I don't feel like anything looks nice on me nor CAN anything look nice on me because my body shape is not what it used to be.

But, I do need to get my clothes organized and put away in some order. This is probably my most difficult, long standing issue even with the thousands of items I have cleared out and donated in the past 3 years on the Daily Tally.
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Lila
Posted: 15 August 2025 - 12:45 PM
hi friends!

SubC, I would count the boxes as "out" in this case, because you replaced them with something else. Therefore the net should be 0, which happens by counting both in and out! My thoughts :)

hi Messi! I also need to build the dog walking habit back in. I have a German Shepherd. Do you have big dogs or small ones? I love dogs!

Yes! I made the pickles and am so proud of myself and looking forward to eating them! They are a treat. I made 2 quarts and a pint. One quart is very thinly sliced on a mandolin, one quart is crinkle cut, and the pint is sticks and chunks.I like to wait about 2 weeks before eating them, but the nice thing is, as they get emptied, I can re-use the brine to add more fresh cukes!

I am working on "eating what I have" this week. I took a quart bag of plumcots out of the freezer last night, and this morning I made a loaf of plum bread and some plum muffins. Family is already eating them! I also took out a quart of sliced peaches from last summer which I will combine with sliced fresh peaches someone gave me to make a peach crisp for tonight.

I decided to make dinner for the whole family tonight which will include chicken, mashed potatoes (leftover, for the kids), and a nice fresh vegetable curry with rice. I have carrots, onions, broccoli, cauliflower, zucchini and some other stuff I can throw into the curry. I may also add tofu or bake it (seasoned cubes) for people to add on top if they like (I like!)

Today I also
- washed a few dishes
- took some trash out
- put the green bin to the road

Will post again but this one is long.
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Subclinical
Posted: 14 August 2025 - 03:15 PM
Good afternoon!

I have worked on the basement project again a little bit. Now the basement is a complete disaster and I need to paint a wall. I need to wait until Tuesday though because Dd asked me to minimize the paint fumes for the boys. She and Buddy will be sleeping here tomorrow night, and Saturday night as well - their church camp out is nearby and she doesn't think Buddy will do well in a tent.

I have a question. I added all the containers I brought home from school to my "in" tally. (Periodically all the containers in some rooms get replaced and the old worn/scuffed/don't match anymore ones get put out for people to take - either for their rooms - which is where all the containers in my room have come from - art rooms have different metrics for curb appeal, or to take home - because they never all get claimed.)

Anyway, the question is - if I put things that were in cardboard boxes into my new containers, and get rid of the cardboard boxes, can I count the boxes as "out"? Normally I do not count empty boxes as outs, but this seems like a 1 for 1. Opinions?
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Subclinical
Posted: 14 August 2025 - 05:23 AM
Good morning!

Messi, I'm glad you enjoyed your walk. It's great to have something that lifts you up every day! Do you mind sharing a little about where you are walking? Do you live rural, city, or suburb? Is it late summer or late winter where you are?

Do you have a dishwasher? Do you think an empty sink would be a reasonable goal? (It's ok if it isn't right now.)

The lamp needs at least one more multi hour session at the studio. That might not happen until Wednesday after the return to school meeting for teachers at my job. - I don't know if you caught this, but I live out in the country, and my job and the city studio are both about an hour away. But only a few minutes apart and near most shopping or errands I ever need to do and my daughter and heartdaughter (long story, love makes a family.)

We had a great Lego day. It was hot and humid outside and rained a little, so good weather for being inside. Lots of good conversation and I got to enjoy Bean's imagination. I really like one on one time with any of the boys. It was a little bit hard when I took him home and Buddy came right to me and then clung and didn't want me to put him down and leave.

We found a bunch of random bits mixed in with the Lego - beads and stickers and tiny plastic toys that belong to other sets. Even a gum wrapper. Every time I found a non- Lego Bean rolled his eyes and invoked his uncle's name. We kept some boats and our castle with a hawk aviary assembled for another time.

Today I am staying home and working around the house except for a trip to the farmer's market (a mile and a half) Dh will also be home because he has Buddy's cold which is of course completely debilitating because he is a man. I have a list which currently seems completely reasonable but will probably end up half done.

Ok, yoga.
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messi
Posted: 14 August 2025 - 12:13 AM
Subclinical - walks with the dogs are wonderful in general. Sometimes my anxiety about doing other things interferes and the walks get shortened, shortchanged, but still they are a breath of wonder. Thanks for the tip for helping balance what comes in with what goes out, one more dish cleaned over the number of dishes used. How is your lamp coming and did you have a lego day?

I, too, have been wondering about Lila's pickles. Mmmmm...
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Subclinical
Posted: 12 August 2025 - 06:57 PM
Good evening!

Messi, how was the walk? It's fine to start slowly. It's good to have little successes you can build on. Try to reduce what comes in and wash more dishes than you use. Same with the trash, if you collect it as you go and add anything that was already there, you've made progress. And you are building good habits - any day you do that is really good.

Lila, did you make pickles?

Somehow food is just a struggle for me lately.

Today I did yoga. That will build. I didn't do anything else that will buy me time, space, or energy,

But I worked on my classroom a little and then went down to the studio to work on my lamp. The glaze work is slow and tedious, but I am looking forward to having it done.

Before that I talked to dd2's BFF on the phone for two hours. She's struggling with her husband and kids over household stuff and discipline, and apparently I am the only person she knows besides her Mom who has been married more than ten years, and she thinks my kids turned out better than her siblings.

And I brought stuff home from school - more on that later, because some might go back.

I want to work on my basement project again, but I'm having trouble finding the energy.

I think I'll probably just do chores ,shower, and start the dishwasher.

Just Bean is coming to spend the day tomorrow so we can have baby-free Lego time.
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messi
Posted: 12 August 2025 - 07:02 AM
Good morning! Thanks for the friendly, encouraging notes. I got A FEW dishes done. SOME trash is taken care of. I hope more today. I am discouraged looking around, but have to remember it's one thing at a time. I have trouble with that and get overwhelmed. The first order of things is to walk the dogs before it gets too hot. So, I'm off to do that. Many thanks and good days to you all.
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Lila
Posted: 11 August 2025 - 04:12 PM
"To make future me happy..." What a good thought Tatoulia! I will use that!

I don't remember your cat stress - are your mirrors unattached to the wall? I worry about things falling on my grandkids, so I get it. (Things that their parents have and think are stable, and probably are, but I worry).

Oh I forgot to take my iron since I got back from my trip, SubC. Thank you for the reminder. I will go take it immediately after I post! I got the SOS tonic to try and boost my iron stores. I also ordered the functional mushrooms today and will try it out for a month. I have a mini goal to figure out how to get off some of my medications. I think they are making me tired, giving me brain fog, etc. I am talking about too much clonidine, and a couple of GERD meds, and allergy meds. Will work with my Dr.

hi Messi! I'm so glad you've joined our little daily chat! Share whatever you like, or are comfortable with. When you are ready I'd love to hear more of your story, but feel free to just share goals or how you are doing or anything. We are pretty casual.

I am a grandma in my mid 50s and have been working hard to dig out of the clutter. (See the Daily Tally thread!) But moreso, I come here to work on the mindset. To get myself encouraged to do something, anything, good for myself or my space.

Today I am working from home, but I also did a few things:
- washed a few dishes
- uh... I think I did more things??? lol

My main thing I want to get done today (besides work) is to make refrigerator pickles. The ones I made last year were sooo delicious, better than any store bought pickles I've had, and my family agrees! I think I have enough cucumbers (from the neighbor) to make 2 quarts or a little more.

So far I washed the cucumbers, got out the clean jars with lids, got out the mandolin and crinkle cutter (for two types of slices) and got out most of the ingredients and the recipe.

I need to find the peppercorns. I think they are in the spice cabinet shoved back on one of the shelves. See, this is why I procrastinate. It turns into getting out a stepstool, digging out all the cabinets which makes a mess, just to find an ingredient. But I am doing it. And hope to throw away some of the cabinet things to make it easier to find stuff next time!

I also need to find the salt but I think I know where that is!

See you later...
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Subclinical
Posted: 11 August 2025 - 01:17 PM
Hi Messi!

Welcome! Welcome!
We are glad you got up the courage to post!

Let us know if you get any dishes done. Good luck on the trash. Be brave. Whatever you can collect will be gone tomorrow and things will be better!

I'm looking forward to getting to know you and hearing more about your life and goals!
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Messi
Posted: 11 August 2025 - 10:09 AM
So, I'm new. It has taken a week to get up enough courage and make a time space to post. I am losing my mind over my mess. I'm between a level 3 and 4 on the hoarding scale. I almost couldn't type the "H" word in that last sentence, lol. Reading posts has been encouraging. I have never posted anywhere before, so let me know if I "mess" it up. I hope to get some dishes done today and get the trash out for pick up tomorrow.
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Subclinical
Posted: 11 August 2025 - 04:54 AM
Good morning!

Lila, I saw the typo after I posted - lol! I often wish we could edit.

I hope your lighter week at work helps. I don't know anything about mushroom supplements, but taking iron changed my life, so I hope you find what works for you.

Tatoulia, it sounds like kitty is fine with her nightly accommodations.

Good job both of you on the housekeeping tasks!

I'm still working on keeping up with the housekeeping tasks, but I'm thinking of larger things - I set up the coffee maker every night so that morning subc will have coffee, but that is a small task with a short payoff that will be over. Yoga doesn't really have much of a short payoff, but when my Dd was born, my grandmother was 80. And I remember her getting down on the floor and popping up from behind the coffee table to make toddler Dd laugh. That's why I need to do yoga. (Also so I can pick up Buddy next week!)

Coming up with three things a day is an aspiration, not an expectation. It will probably be hard to find three many days, but looking for them will help me focus more on long term goals and get less bogged down in day to day. It might also help me make better choices in the moment - like a savings goal, where you chose putting money aside for something big in the future instead of buying small short term treats.

Yesterday I did yoga, took care of one step on a basement reorganization project I have been putting off even though I really want the results, there is always something I "need" to do more than the basement, and ordered a "buy it for life" hose nozzle, because I am tired of ours breaking every year or two. Break even on the cost is 4-10 years, but currently there are things that are taking me longer/more effort because the hose nozzle is broken. And I expect to be using it for more than 10 years.

I also spent some time when I was tired and it was too hot to go outside sorting some craft items. That is a "micro" goal that doesn't do much for the big picture, but it is better than watching YouTube videos.

Now I'm going to do yoga again and chores - the boys come today!

CM, we miss you!
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Tatoulia
Posted: 10 August 2025 - 10:47 PM
Ps I did the list below, after procrastinating forever.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 10 August 2025 - 10:46 PM
Lila! I missed your post! I'm sorry!!

I have to wash some pet stuff too. The cats are shedding a lot. My mother's cat has been stressing me out. She's pawing at my mirrors and they are big and heavy and she is causing me a lot of stress. So I've been putting her in the bathroom at night. Not ideal but I don't know what else to do. She has food, water, litter box, towel. And she's fine in the AM. She actually comes in to the bathroom to supervise my activities and isn't trying to avoid it at all, so maybe she's happy there? She used to hoke up in mom's closet so maybe she's happy there. She is absolutely stressing me out terribly.

Maybe I already told you about this development with the cat. I will make a vet appt for her.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 10 August 2025 - 08:51 PM
Okay it's 950 and I need to do a bunch of things to make future me happy
Clean both cat boxes
Gather up garbage
Fold sheets
Fold towels
(Fold means fold and put away)
Do dishes.
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Lila
Posted: 10 August 2025 - 06:16 PM
hi Ubclinical! Welcome to our forum! I hope you feel welcome here!
(ha, ha...)

Mmmm, raisin bread sounds good. Hi Tatoulia too!

I worked so hard this week that I decided to stay home today. This week should be easier because there are repairs going on at work, so we have to mostly work from home (except for my off site event). So I will get to rest more, working from home.

Today I did wash my sheets (they are not dried yet) and I washed the dog's bedding and disinfected her crate, which she is almost never shut in but she does go in there to eat her treats, so it gets messy and crumb-y. It will be nice and clean now. I had hoped to wash her today but Son slept all day and I needed his help. I dunno when I will get to wash her.

I would like to mop but I am too tired.

I am looking into functional mushroom supplements for energy and brain fog. I have to do something. I can't keep going with no energy and brain fog.

All for now...
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Tatoulia
Posted: 10 August 2025 - 04:16 PM
Nice on the raisin bread! Yes for making future you happy! I've been doing that recently so that I don't have to do something the next day. I'll start to look at it through the lens of building on things.

Back from the gym. Glad that you are taking care of your body with yoga!

We are expecting a heat emergency in the city next couple of days.

I'm going to go see if the washer is open and if so, I'll take a load of towels down.
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Subclinical
Posted: 10 August 2025 - 07:11 AM
I did the yoga. I had to adapt a couple of poses because my hip still hurts a lot. But I did it.

I'm thinking about trying to do three things every day that will make future subc's life easier. Not just keeping up with- like dishes, or laundry, or cleaning off a surface, but progress that can be built on - things that make me stronger, or healthier, or remove stress or future work from my life.

Yoga is one, so every day that I do the yoga, I will only have to come up with two more.

Also today I have done my chores, run a load of laundry, put a loaf of raisin bread in the oven, and unloaded, loaded and started the dishwasher.

The raisin bread will be done in about 45 minutes, so I need to stay in or near the kitchen so I don't forget it.
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