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Dianne
Posted: 21 January 2015 - 10:42 AM
Haha Tat, we just cross-posted. Of course no offense! I would be honored to be confused with Mel! But maybe not so much for poor Mel to be confused with me. ;)

What a lovely way to compliment people in explaining a mix-up with your sweetheart's name!

One of our family stories is about the times we would stay at my great-gramma's place on the Chesapeake Bay. The kids would be crabbing and we would just toss the crabs on the ground and the littlest ones would pick them up and put them in pails. Only the male crabs that were 10 inches point to point and never, ever a female or her baby. Crabs were very abundant back in those days. So one day my dad is on the bulkhead, netting and tossing and he turns around and yells, "M..., no Rob..., no T...,!!! By the time he got the right name out my littlest bro had a big old mad crabby hanging off his toe as he hopped around screaming! Haha!
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Dianne
Posted: 21 January 2015 - 10:26 AM
Hey Tat, that was me asking you about the clothes. :)

Whatever makes you feel good you should keep. You're smart enough to be able to make distinctions about eh and good. If your style tends towards the dressier side then the first things to go are the most casual. Keep one outfit for *dirty work*, meaning it wouldn't matter for those clothes to get ruined and then tossed. That level of clothes is always easily and inexpensively replaced.

I used to be a big pj person ~ those silky gowns felt so good in hot weather and there really is nothing like a big, fluffy bathrobe or cozy pj's in the winter! It's a lovely way to pamper ourselves. So definitely keep a few. If they fit the space you designate. WTG getting a bag together for donation since you just shopped a bit last night.

I had the same issue with weight fluctuation. It's very hard to spend decent money on some good pieces and then not be able to wear them. A general rule of thumb for that is if the weight difference is 5 - 10 lbs and you're confident that can be knocked off quickly keep them. If the weight difference is more or you bought the item because it was gorgeous and you planned to fit into it at a later date you might let that go.

There was one big consideration for me in donating my best clothes. When I did dress well it was classic, no trendy stuff. There are places in city areas that help poor women *dress for success*. Women who have serious struggles and are trying, through women's groups training, to get good jobs. They can also use good purses, shoes and nice costume jewelry. My psychiatrist does pro bono work for women escaping abusive situations and when she explained to me how much these good clothes help with the woman's self-esteem and confidence it was a no-brainer to donate ~ a lot. Even things with tags still on.

If there is a particular piece that you love then keep that one. I like keeping in mind what Mrs. Dave says ~ it's nice to share. Even when going grocery shopping yesterday I was tempted to buy all the strawberry and blueberry chobani yogurts since there weren't many left. Then I thought of that simple phrase and put some back.

Since it's easier for you to pare down clothes, keep at that. Just getting those discerning muscles in even better shape will help you pare down other areas later.

Really great work Tat!!
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Tatoulia
Posted: 21 January 2015 - 10:08 AM
Dianne, I think I confused you and Mel last night. Sorry, luckily you are both fantastic people giving fantastic advice so sure no one is insulted! Whenever I mistakenly call someone by my sweetheart's name, I always say, there is no bigger compliment! I value you both so much.
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Tillie
Posted: 21 January 2015 - 10:03 AM
WTG! LR2014 :D

Wishing you a wonderful new beginning full of peace and joy.

(((hugs)))
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Tatoulia
Posted: 21 January 2015 - 08:13 AM
LR, I am so proud of you! Congratulations! Wow you really got that done! So happy!!
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LR2014
Posted: 21 January 2015 - 06:28 AM
I wish to announce that on Sunday afternoon, I officially turned in the keys to my ever-flooding, often extremely noisy apartment. Most of my "stuff" for now is in a 10x10 storage place, and I am temporarily staying in a nice little home with some old friends for a couple of months. (They have a very nice, neat, clean home and they are wonderful friends and wonderful to live with.) I have my own comfy bed to sleep on in a comfy guest bedroom. The new place is about an hour's drive from my old place. More later. Whoo-hoo!

Hugs to all. Couldn't have done it without ya.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 20 January 2015 - 08:35 PM
Hello everyone! Nice to see you Bitsy. I hope you are surviving the winter okay. This time of year I think of my mother, who when we were children, would privately pray for February 1st, because she knew it would be light out til five. I find I do the same now.

Mel, thank you for your sweet post. I wear a lot of dresses and suits, even though my office is "business casual," which unfortunately must people take as casual. I dress up must days and feel good about it. I rarely participate in our jeans Fridays, but every so often I surprise them all. I work from home a day or two a week, which is nice. I don't have a ton if clothes but I know if I were realistic, I'd be able to get rid of more things that I don't wear. Some of my issues concern weight gain. I tend to buy a few good pieces of clothing and then when I can't fit into them, I'm not ready to say goodbye. So I think I could get rid of stuff if I followed the tips and really figured out what is realistic and what isn't.

One area, believe it or not, where I have an abundance of clothes is in the PJ, nightgown, slipper, bathrobe area. I try to stay out of those areas of stores but even last night I bought more PJs at Lord and Taylor. But I promised I'd get rid of some and I am getting a bag together.

I'm general, I just feel like I have too much stuff, so I appreciate all the tips on where to start. I will start on clothes closet. Might as well. Much easier for me to pare down on clothes than other things.

Tillie, always great to read about your day. My cat eats my sheer curtains.
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Tillie
Posted: 20 January 2015 - 07:19 PM
Hi :)

Spent the day being sorta lazy. :)
Tidied up my linens while I put away the freshly washed ones.
Put down some fresh scented drawer paper in a couple of drawers.
Sorted out my socks and tossed the ones developing holes.
Went through my sheer lacy window curtains and decided to toss a few that had seen better days.
Cats are very hard on them.
Watched a few documentaries on Netflix as I puttered around.
Made a toasted cheese sandwich. :D
Talked to, played with and helped the cats with their cat problems.
It has been a good day and now there is a beautiful winter sunset. :D

If that "spam" post is bothering people we can ask for it to be removed.
I plan to just ignore it and keep posting as if it weren't there.
They probably won't return.
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bitsy
Posted: 20 January 2015 - 04:42 PM
WAY TO GO MEL! should somebody email Cory?
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Mel99
Posted: 20 January 2015 - 03:20 PM
Will doctor "o" come to our houses and send us on an all expenses paid vacation while he cleans our houses and pays our bills? If not, not interested. ;)
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Tillie
Posted: 20 January 2015 - 12:25 PM
OH for crying out loud! :(
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Dianne
Posted: 20 January 2015 - 09:36 AM
Hey Tat, sounds like Sunday was a good day of rest for you and you still got a lot done late at night at your mom's. Good work shredding, sweeping and vacuuming at your place yesterday too!

You've made so much progress overall. What, for you, would be the next level? What is your ultimate goal for reducing possessions? Are you able to have regular routines for maintenance that fit well with your other obligations?

As far as further reducing you could consider eliminating whole types of clothes. I no longer have any pj's or robes. I use my larger t-shirts to sleep in. For very cold weather I just add an extra blanket and maybe a pair of fluffy socks. I only have panties, bras and some socks. No more slips, shaping undergarments or nylons/tights. No slippers. No more office clothes or Sunday best because I don't need them. No dresses. For most occasions very nice pants will do. I keep a few more formal outfits for a funeral or a meeting with an attorney, etc.

That might be too extreme for most people but for my lifestyle it works. I still have way too much of what I do have. And you may be too young to eliminate whole groups. I know I'm never going to hold a job again where I have to wear nice clothes. I put dating aside awhile ago so I don't need to have especially nice things.

You said you have empty shelf and closet space. Maybe once you do some reorganizing you'll find that everything you have fits nicely. You may not have to pare down. Or you could decide that you like empty space because or the sense of freedom and clarity it gives you.

Ultimately the levels you work thru will be determined by the space you have and the life you are living. Much of my extra stuff was about the life I used to live or the life I planned to live. When we can get those memories and dreams sorted out in our heads it becomes easier to make the decisions about what goes and what stays.

What do you think you need to get rid of still?
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Tatoulia
Posted: 19 January 2015 - 08:15 PM
Very good suggestion, Tillie! I did exactly this with kitchen cabinets over the summer but hadn't considered for bedroom. I have a very good dresser and my entire closet was designed by California Closets so it's very roomy, including multiple shelves, six dresser drawers, different places to hang clothes.

Maybe start easy with the six closet drawers. They are small and not used as well as they could be. Two alone hold nylons and tights. I think I could keep one drawer for nylons/tights and maybe move all the pjs and nightgowns into some of the others.

This sounds so simple but honestly I didn't see it.

THANK YOU!

it's so nice to have you back. Giant hugs.
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Tillie
Posted: 19 January 2015 - 07:19 PM
HI :)
So nice to catch up with you all. ;)

Over did it today. But really, something's were getting on my nerves and I just had to deal with them.

Tatoulia, so you want to get to the next level,
that's fantastic. :D

Emptying a whole room is an awful lot to do at one time and I worry you may become overwhelmed, paralyzed and burned out.

How to get organized...
Think about one do-able area, like a dresser.
Think how you want to use the drawer space. What items do you want in the different drawers.
Now, dump out one drawer.
Only place back what you decided that drawer will be used for.
Sort through the other stuff and place it aside near where you think it will go permanently.
Once the first drawer is done you can now dump the second drawer.
Repeat the sorting out.
Now, there will be things in other locations that you decide belong in the drawers but they are locate elsewhere in the home.
Later, at another time, you can gather them up and put them into their assigned drawer.

If there is too much of any one kind of any items...
Choose to keep only the best most loved and used items and let the others go live elsewhere.
Use this same method throughout the house with closets, cupboards, shelves etc...
Tackle only one small section at a time removing items and refilling the areas with only what goes there.

Layout of my two dressers...
Dresser #1
Top drawer- blouses
middle drawer- dresses
bottom drawer- flannel night gowns
Dresser #2
Top drawer- undies
middle drawer- slips & such
bottom drawer- summer night gowns

I don't have a closet space for hanging clothes & that's why I keep them all in the dressers. :)

My chest of drawers contains
Kitchen linens, dish cloths & towels
socks & pull over tops
skirts
robes
table cloths & doilies

I have the items all put where it is easiest for me to get to them and use them and put them away afterward.
If it is too difficult to get to things and put them away afterward then they tend to pile up and become clutter.


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Tatoulia
Posted: 19 January 2015 - 05:45 PM
Hello everyone! Tillie I started a post this AM but then my lunch dates (friend and her toddler son) were outside and ready for lunch. I did nothing yesterday--lived like a cat--slept til nearly noon (when did I become this person) and after tea and toast I went back to bed. Snoozed, watched movies in Netflix, etc. finally got up yet didn't shower and get out if the house til 8:30 PM. Went over to mom's and was with her as football game finished up. I changed her sheets got her and picked up a little here and there.

Bitsy, thank you for your kind words. I appreciate your support and wisdom while trying to help mom. I think you'll be eased to know that she and her social workers got the organizers in their own and they did not tell me. Her apt is so pretty and I took some more donations out last night. Mom sleeps rarely so I stayed til about 11 PM, when the BF stopped by to get me.

Celeste, good to see you posting. I'm generally reading and posting from iPhone and couldn't read the lighter green print. I hope all is well with you.

Nice newsy post, Mel. My goodness a lot of change for you. You are doing great. Dianne, I didn't post all weekend because I didn't do anything around the house.... Til today! I shredded a bag of my brother's papers which I had planned to do but hadn't. I also shredded a bunch of my own and swept up living room and vacuumed living room and den.

Tillie, I am so sorry you've been sick. I've been pretty healthy this year but after dr's appt last week I am on new meds and I dizzy. And having trouble adjusting. Right now I just feel weird and I think I'd prefer the dizziness. I think this will all pass very soon.

Today was holiday at work so nice to have a 3-day weekend. And I am pleased with working on house. I have much less stuff, but I let stuff pile up on the floor and it drives me nuts. I have to still reduce and need help figuring out what else to get rid of. I never followed through with idea of removing everything from bedroom and deciding what goes back. I need to do this. I need to further reduce. I'm good about not getting new stuff, and I go have empty shelf and closet space, but I know I need to do more. Will take all suggestions and hints and ideas. I want to go to next level.

Missing you all.
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Dianne
Posted: 19 January 2015 - 11:42 AM
Tillie, I think what happens is people just move on periodically. Some newcomers drop by but don't stick around. Some regulars get to a point where real life takes up their time.

And what is bittersweet is when people who have been very involved finally reach goals and don't need to post as often as they used to. We miss their frequent updates but can be very happy that they can now live lives in the real world that they were striving for.

Glad you're feeling better and can get some things done today.

Bitsy thanks for the kind words. Take good care my friend.

Celeste, I hear you about the laundry! It's a never ending project in this house. I read your response to Arron regarding schizophrenia. It was exceptional advice from a very personal point of view as well as sounding professional. Your opinion about revealing the son's death was perfect. I'm sure Arron was able to find a lot of understanding and comfort from your post.

Mel, I love reading your long updates!! I'm so happy that you are reaping the successes of all your hard work! Hope all went well with the *parent meet*. Sometimes kitties decide not to like someone despite all good attempts. After living and working with over a hundred cats throughout my life I've found that with some it can take literally years before they come to a completely comfortable place. That's not to say you can't live in harmony. But acceptance and love will be on his timetable. I'm glad mama kitty is sweet to you. :) Continue to live a wonderful, balanced life!
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Tillie
Posted: 19 January 2015 - 09:32 AM
Good morning

Looks like the Zombie Apocalypse must have happened while I was away. :(

None of my weekend plans got done. Been too sick to get out of bed.
Much better today so I now need to work on cleaning myself up and clean up all the dishes & laundry I have left scattered all around.

Checked into Sunday night online support group last evening and it was the same thing....
nothing but a few lonely tumbleweeds blowing down the lane. :(
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Mel99
Posted: 17 January 2015 - 10:27 AM
Hello all, hope everyone is doing well and having a productive weekend!

LR, hope the move went/is going smoothly! Congratulations!!

Tillie, good for you working on will and advanced directives! We went through the process last year of doing all the paperwork with my folks, including setting up a trust. It was a lot of work (and since they set up a trust, it was pretty expensive) but I feel good knowing that they have all the appropriate paperwork completed, that everything has been decided and written down, and if something were to happen, we don't have to worry about it. Also, happy belated birthday!

Diane, great idea to plus the computer into the tv! I'm running on an old laptop myself and last year I spilled water on it. The keyboard doesn't work properly anymore so I decided rather than trying to figure out if I could afford to buy a new laptop, I would just get an external keyboard. It's a little frustrating at times but way cheaper than a new computer!

Dianne, really nice thoughts on life lessons. When I was young, I was picked on, teased, and bullied for many years. I think about that kind of thing a lot. I might post about that separately because my posts are always so enormous even without that :) But I will share my thoughts.

Tatoulia, congratulations about your mom! And good job working on all that shredding!

Celeste, good luck with the folding! Are your kids old enough to help out?

I haven't had time to post recently, tho I have been reading peoples' posts. On the fun side, it was my birthday week this week and I've had lots of fun celebrating. On the not-fun side, there were a series of layoffs at my workplace, and my boss, who was very high up in the company and had been there for 20 years, got fired unexpectedly. We have a newish CEO (been there for a little over a year) and he's been cleaning house since he got here, but since she had made it so long we thought she might be OK. I already had a good working relationship with the person I am now reporting to. He "inherited" several people from the department i've been associated with, and he told me that the person he was most excited to work with was me, so at least I feel like that's a positive thing. Still, it's a huge change, plus I had been working with my boss for 7 years and we had a really good relationship, so I was very sad for her as well.

My boyfriend is taking a couple more classes (he's done with his "core" classes but has a couple of electives to finish up before he graduates in June) so we haven't been doing a lot of cleaning. I've been doing my best to keep up with my stuff, and he shredded three full banker boxes worth of stuff in the past week. Since he's the one who usually gets the cleaning moving, we haven't made a ton of progress in the past couple weeks. However, he did previously finish cleaning out the second bedroom, which was amazing. I can't remember when the room was so clean. He even organized a ton of my CDs into alphabetized stacks. I had major anxiety when he threw out the stuff he had shredded - I didn't think he mixed it up enough, he didn't add yucky fluids to the bags, etc. I know I'm probably being way overly paranoid about it but I've known people who had nightmares with identity theft and it just scares me. I've worked really really hard to build up my credit, and it's not perfect, but it's not bad.

I'm sort of getting adjusted to living with the kitties. The boy kitty does not like me at all, but only shows his displeasure with me if my boyfriend is not around, hissing at me, swatting at me as I walk by, etc. I've tried feeding him, giving him treats, petting him, playing with him - nothing works. The mama kitty is sweet to me and I like her. Unfortunately the kitties aren't keeping the mice out. Or maybe (hopefully) it's just one. We have a "bread drawer" in the kitchen where we store all our bread products. Last week I bought my favorite bread and a few days later I discovered it had been chewed on. I moved all the other bread out of the drawer and put a small trap in there. So far no luck. I don't really have a lot of options. I can't put poison out at all with the cats around (plus I wouldn't want to put poison so close to our food), and I have a trap in the drawer but it's not catching anything. Do I get more traps? Even those I'd have to keep in the drawers since I don't want to hurt the kitties. Thankfully the bread appears to be the only thing being eaten. It even left alone a bag of candies and a different bag of bread.

Today I am planning a trip to the library, possibly taking a friend out to eat, and spending some nice quality time with my boyfriend. Tomorrow his parents are taking us and my parents to breakfast. It will be the first time our parents will meet, so it's a little exciting and scary. My sister dislikes my boyfriend so I'm a little worried my mom will say something about that (I love her but she often puts her foot in her mouth when she's nervous about meeting new people). My dad has parkinson's and alzheimers, so if he's having a bad day tomorrow they're going to stay home. I would like them to meet so I'm hoping he'll be doing ok.

Sorry for always babbling on and on. I hope everyone has a great weekend!
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Celeste
Posted: 17 January 2015 - 07:32 AM
Also, Does anyone know if there's maybe a system update or something going on? I have been trying to connect into group chat, to see if anyone's up for a little buddy session today, to motivate me to task. I haven't been able to connect, either phone or computer. Just says says "connecting" for the guest sign-in. Thanks for any feedback.
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Celeste
Posted: 17 January 2015 - 07:26 AM
Hello all,

I hope to tackle some folding of clothes. I have more bagged up clean laundry than I can count...seriously. I then hope, although ambitious, to bag up dirty laundry with all the empty bags. I could do a load of laundry for 365 days just to tackle it, however, all the new dirty would just collect. Soooo...one load drying and another in the washer. The hardest part is putting away the clean before someone knocks it over, and pets lay on it or kids step on it, then it has to be washed anew...again. Maybe I can pack away summer clothes before the season changes, for the 10th year in a row!So that is my plan for today! :)
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bitsy
Posted: 16 January 2015 - 08:35 PM
Dianne,
" there comes a time to let go and accept the help that's offered to us. Easier said or written than done. I really, really need to do more work on myself." thanks for putting it into words
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bitsy
Posted: 16 January 2015 - 08:17 PM
Tat,
kudos to your Mom, social worker, and organizers. and you. your Mom deserves some happiness. thank you for giving her love and understanding.
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Tillie
Posted: 16 January 2015 - 11:22 AM
Good morning :)

Friday, again.
Anybody have any weekend plans?
Maybe going to finally tackle that long put off task?
Or maybe you will be going out somewhere and having some fun?
Curious minds want to know. :D

January has no special dates for me.
December there were three.
A very special wedding, the last HOBBIT movie and then my birthday.

My one big plan for this weekend is to get outside and make a huge bonfire.
Have LOTS of small branches from that tree we cut down and now they are dry enough to burn.
There is also a bunch of other things that I have gathered up to toss into the flames.
This is always so much fun and spiritually cleansing.

TTYL :)
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Dianne
Posted: 15 January 2015 - 02:49 PM
I don't get Netflix so no Hoarders for me. :(

Good for you Tat, shredding papers. I just trash them and figure nobody is going to steal my identity because then they would really have bad credit! :D

Yes Tillie, I never give myself credit for making the best decision I could at the time. It's very natural for me to berate myself especially with 20/20 hindsight. I always think I SHOULD HAVE been smarter, more observant, not so emotional, whatever. Even knowing the shoulda/woulda/coulda syndrome is pointless and detrimental it's deeply rooted. I rarely have the lightness of spirit to say c'est la vie. It's a very good perspective though. :)

Today I've been working on laundry again. Those doggies in and out with the melting snow, what a mess! And scrubbing floors.

Little Christmas trees are still up. I don't turn on the lights because they are so dry. Really need to get those babies down.
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Tillie
Posted: 15 January 2015 - 12:31 PM
WTG! Tatoulia :D

Hoarders episodes can be very motivating.
I like to put then on the big TV when my hoarder is home and it keeps him from stagnating.
He will go outside just to get away from them. HAHAHA :D

HI LR2014 :)
WAY TO GO!!!! for all the hard work you have done.
You continue to be an inspiration to us all. :)


Hi Diane :)
What I was trying to say is that I have come to accept how my life has changed.
WTG! figuring out how to use the TV as your computer monitor! :D
Hoping you have been having a GREAT time with your loaner dog. :D

Dianne,
many decisions/choices we make in our lives were made using the information/knowledge/facts that were available to us at the time we needed to decide/take action.
Later, other factors may have come into play making our decisions of the past the wrong way to have gone.
But at the time, we made the right/best decisions/plans given what we knew then.
Hind sight is always 20/20 but that is no reason to beat ourselves up since we are not fortune tellers or have crystal balls.
JMHO, life is like a roll of the dice, we place our bets and accept the outcome.
But we are allowed to roll the dice again to try to improve the situation.
Even if that just means we need to make a heartfelt apology.

C'est la vie

:)
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Tatoulia
Posted: 14 January 2015 - 05:18 PM
Woo hoo is right! I will watch tonight as I shred my papers. Making some decent progress on the trunk of my car, Tillie!
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Tillie
Posted: 14 January 2015 - 10:53 AM
WOOHOO!!!!!

Netflix has "HOARDERS" available again!!! :D

Season one, 15 episodes.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 14 January 2015 - 09:29 AM
Tillie, thank you for your thoughtful post. It sounds like you are taking stock of your life so far and taking a look at your future. When I turned 50, I had a bit of a crisis, realizing that I've devoted my life to taking care of others and trying to fill their needs. That was very sad to me, but I put the energy into purging my hoard--I was keeping so many things for just in case and buying duplicates in the event some one else needed them. I felt I was reclaiming my life by deciding that I will not be a store or a warehouse for some upcoming need for someone. And that's when I found you. I think that it's tough to face the facts of our own mortality and as hard as it can be, it's good that you are mapping out a course for yourself. It feels sad and good, all at the same time.

Diane, good for you figuring out the TV/monitor situation. LR, you are doing it! Sending you hugs and strength! Dianne, thank you for sharing so much of yourself. I take great strength from everyone here. Thank you.
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Dianne
Posted: 14 January 2015 - 08:38 AM
Hey LR, it's good to hear from you! Congratulations on your move tomorrow! You've worked very hard to get to this point. How long do expect to stay with your friends?
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LR2014
Posted: 14 January 2015 - 07:22 AM
Hi, everybody. Here's a quick checkin. I've been packing boxes, labeling boxes, (donating and tossing . . . but not in mass quantities), packing boxes, labeling boxes, etc. Trying to get moved out of my place this week (hopefully by the end of the day tomorrow, if not before). Most things are going to storage and are fitting into a 10x10 space. I myself am going to be staying with some friends for a while. Bye, bye, excess flooding and crazy-level noise! Whoo-hoo!!! (I'm happy.)

Thanks for your help and encouragement through this process! Hugs to everybody.
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Dianne
Posted: 13 January 2015 - 04:11 PM
Diane, what a smart idea to try the tv screen with the computer!

I look forward to seeing you every day again and hear how you continue to improve your life!

How is that good boy, Max?
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Dianne
Posted: 13 January 2015 - 04:00 PM
Tillie, I also have been reevaluating my life. Feeling the age.

Unlike you I have many regrets. I think it's natural for some people to wish they had done things differently, made different choices. For me the key has been not to let those regrets continue to haunt me or shape my life. That's a very, very difficult process. I have to work on it every day.

Considering that way of thinking has also taught me to consider mistakes I continue to make, learn from them and let them go. Ruminating does no good, especially for someone of my mindset, and is a big factor in regret. I look at baseball players, who after making a really awful, rookie mistake and the intense feeling of agitation they must feel for a moment, hearing the groans of the crowds and knowing the cameras are on their faces to catch the pained expression. And the intense discipline it must take to just knock that moment aside. The is no room in the game at that moment to regret anything. The moment was there, it passed and the next play is just as important. Keep going. Rethink later when the time is appropriate, learn from it, let it go. That's what I try to do now knowing I still have lots of potentially regrettable mistakes to be made in life.

I also, like everyone person, have had disappointments in what some people have done deliberately to me. Some of those things have been devastating causing me much upheaval in my life, destroying my trust, crushing my spirit. That has been a tremendous source of growth for me as well as the initial pain. Through it I have learned that everyone suffers in ways that others cannot understand. I have learned compassion and that it is a source of regret (again another lesson) when it occurs to me that I have caused the same horrible disappointments in others. Yes, some deliberately.

And it teaches me to forgive all those who have hurt me. Even deliberately. Maybe I had done something to make them want to hurt me. Maybe they were just mean. Maybe they were reacting to something else and I was in the line of fire. I've always taught my kids that if a dog bites he had a reason. We may not understand it but it made sense in his mind. How could I not extend that same consideration to a human?

I may not put myself in a position to be hurt again but I do forgive and pray that the thorns in their lives will slide out relieving their pain. And if the opportunity arises that the person who caused the pain wants reconciliation I am willing to go there fully with them. My dear sister-in-law has blown me away with the lessons of forgiveness and love she lives in her life.

Your thoughts on time and enjoyment are spot on. I see more and more people, as they age to be sure, recognizing and living with those ideals. When my brother became aware that his time was going to be cut short the important things in life became crystal clear. I will be forever grateful that my father had a will and advanced directives in place. It is a final gift to those we love. I need to get that done too.

I would love to hear others' thoughts on life lessons. In addition to having a space to share hoarding issues this board has allowed me to learn a great deal about myself in many areas. Putting things into writing helps tremendously.

Much love and peace and thanks to all of you ~~

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Diane
Posted: 13 January 2015 - 12:12 PM
Good morning
Tillie, I am not sure how to interpret what you are saying. Are you saying your life is about to change? I wish you the best for your happiness, as always.
I finally broke my computer screen trying to make it work, had to push on upper left corner, harder and harder to make it work. I was ready to go buy a new one, when I thought, might as well see if I could plug into tv. Well computer screen was the problem, now can use computer on tv, just not screen attached to puter. It is so much faster to use now that I don't have to twist screen after every word.
I feel like now that puter works, I can rejoin this group and start making my living situation better, without group, seem to let clutter take over. Thank goodness that I had inspiration to try using tv screen for puter. I will soon feel part of this group again, hooray. Now I will read all of your posts and catch up, so happy to have you back in my life.
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Tillie
Posted: 13 January 2015 - 10:59 AM
Good Morning :)

Been evaluating my life...
There are no regrets for the things that I have done or chosen not to do.
I am only human and as such the mistakes I have made were to be expected.
Many disappointments as to what some others have done deliberately concerning me.
But through this I have learned so very much about the differences of various types of humans.
There have also been many people who have touched my life in wonderful positive ways.
I will keep my focus on my memories of them.

Time.
None of us know how much time we have here.
I will evaluate my future plans and declutter those plans/things that do not bring me satisfaction, peace, joy.

What possessions will I be leaving behind?
People tend to save the good stuff for some later date, just in case they will regret having used and enjoyed it and no longer have it later.
I say enjoy it today because tomorrow is not guaranteed.
Eat from the good china, use the good silverware, drink from the crystal goblet, wear the nice clothes.
Should these things break or start to show wear, remember the joy you had using them.

Daily,
look around you
find the beauty
listen to the music
dance
sing

I am going to make up my will and advance directives.
It would be unfair to not have my wishes written down, leaving people to guess as to what I would have wanted.
Been there, done that. It's emotionally quite difficult.


TTYL :)
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Dianne
Posted: 13 January 2015 - 09:37 AM
Yes Tat we all are more fortunate than we might realize.

Even in the worst circumstances just the ability to close our eyes and imagine better is something to be thankful for.

May Hope touch everyone's heart today and bring a smile. :)
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Tatoulia
Posted: 12 January 2015 - 04:25 PM
Oh boy. Both of your daughters sound like wonderful, caring and dear people. Ultimately, even with illness and health problems and hoarding and everything else, we are all so fortunate. Hope and friendship, I heard someone say once, are the true miracles.

You are doing a great job on everything.
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Dianne
Posted: 12 January 2015 - 04:22 PM
Oh my gosh Tat no!! I just saw your other post.

It's a sad joke that I am definitely going downhill. Three times I've gotten out of my car, shut the door, reached in my pocket for the key to lock it and realized the key was still in the ignition and the car still running. :(

At Christmas my nephew was telling us about the girl he plans to marry (she lives out of state and not everyone has met her) and I turned to my sister-in-law (his mother) and opened my mouth to say, "Oh have you met Dana, she is the nicest person." and then remembered, DUH of course, she stayed with them. I told her the slip that almost came out and we all laughed. I used to be an excellent speller. Now I find I *lose* my words and can't quite remember what they mean. If I really need to remember something Laura comes with me.

I watched my father and brother who passed away go thru some dementia and it terrified them. Both were very, very smart and losing parts of their minds was awful for them. I have no pride in that area as I am not the sharpest tool in the shed so I can laugh at my mistakes. But a time is coming soon (like with the cars) that's it's not going to be so funny.

So dear sister/daughter you are certainly not pesky or jerky! You have earned the right to give advice and I always look forward to hearing it. Will I follow it? Hmm.......I may need some prodding! :D

And Tat I wish there were private messages here but since there aren't I have to just post it ~ I really do appreciate you responding to me. {{{hugs}}}
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Dianne
Posted: 12 January 2015 - 03:52 PM
Tat, my married daughter feels the exact same way. She would have some help but decisions and caregiving will fall to her. With her son facing the prospect of more surgery for cp she doesn't need any surprises or added stress from a stubborn mother.

I'm so sorry you had to deal with the trauma your brother suffered at the same time as your mother's move. It must have been very reassuring to know that your mother was being looked after so you could devote your time to your brother.

And you're completely right as to how this will affect Laura. She has always lived here and hopes she can die here. The animals are a big issue. Our beloved German Shepherd has been going downhill and he and his deceased brother were companions and helpers for her. I can't take on another one. But Laura found a breeder who is actually closer to where we would move that gives a guarantee that should the owner not be able to keep the dog for any reason during its lifetime they will take him back. She adores the smaller dogs and cats but she considers the big fierce dogs her protectors.

We had a bad break-in here and another time I was attacked. That's when I found those two who needed homes and the big boys were very comforting to have around. A couple times when my son-in-law was travelling my daughter asked if I could leave one of the shepherds with her as their house is semi-rural as well.

It would definitely be better if I could ease Laura into a situation of living with other people before I'm gone. That's always been my plan but like so many other things I kept putting it off.

Lots of food for thought here. Thanks Tat!
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Tatoulia
Posted: 12 January 2015 - 03:20 PM
Not meant to be offensive--not suggesting you will go downhill. Forgive me, I didn't express myself well. Please, Dianne, we all know what a pesky jerky sister I can be!
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Tatoulia
Posted: 12 January 2015 - 03:13 PM
Dianne, my only advice is to make your decision before you need to. I figure that any move will be unsettling for your eldest daughter, so if you can make the decision before you go downhill, it will be better for her on the long run. She will already be settled in her sister's place. With my mother I kept begging her to make the decision before she needed it, so she could have input and choices and at a time that would be convenient for me--as I am the one on whom all this falls.

One issue I had was her move date was the 15th and she had her place til the 30th. So she wasn't packed or ready or cooperative with the movers, and I still had to fight and argue and cajole for 25 more days with her. Couple that with my brother was found unconscious and in a pool of blood the night before the move, and no one knew what happened. It was a mess. Frankly, I thought the timing ended up perfect, because during the terrible weeks of brother on hospital (stroke) she was living where they were feeding her three times a day.

This is food for thought as you consider the offer and as you think about the timing of any potential next steps.

French books were well received! Thank you for remembering!
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Dianne
Posted: 12 January 2015 - 11:07 AM
Thank you for that advice Tat. You sound just like my daughter. (But wait, I thought you and I were sisters!) Oh well the family dynamics are there. :)

My brothers and I knew with our dad that he was so entrenched in his home that the only way he was leaving it would be in an ambulance after a fall or in a body bag. Some rooms were hoarded in that nicely stacked collections way. He was a fascinating man, a history buff and world traveler. Also a tough New Englander and a decorated Marine. No living with the kids or assisted living for him. After a fall and a hospital visit I asked that he be admitted. I just wanted a couple nights to sleep knowing he was safe.


It was a three month slide from there to death. some of it was probably age but some of it was that he just gave up. When he died, very peacefully with much forgiveness and expressed love all around us kids found out how well Dad had really taken care of everything.

A while ago on this board I wrote of the discoveries we made, the humbling, awe inspiring military funeral he had, the amount of people who honored him from far away and how easily things went with settling his estate. My new goal became To Die Well.

I need to revisit that goal. To do things before I *need to*. I detailed what an amazing opportunity my one daughter and I were being offered in moving in with my younger daughter's family to put down in writing how foolish it would be for me to turn that down. Like I know my father would have flourished in the company of his peers in the facilities we wanted him to move too. So what is it in some people that they would choose their own increasingly not-so-good living space to an opportunity for better? And even stranger, knowing they will be happy in the new place but still resisting?

Lots of other things in my life that I have been avoiding are all conspiring to make me get my head out of the sand and make some deeper changes not just my dehoarding ones.

I really appreciate hearing about your mom's journey Tat, thanks!

Also how did your boyfriend like the childhood books written in French that you gave him for Christmas? And *lushing* an idea on someone might not be such a bad idea! :D
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Tatoulia
Posted: 12 January 2015 - 08:55 AM
Push not lush. Sorry!
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Tatoulia
Posted: 12 January 2015 - 08:41 AM
Dianne, you do have much to think about and change is hard. My mother had a beautiful condo on a beautiful building in a nice area. I live right in the city. I watched some developers take an eyesore of an empty lot and turn it into a lovely assisted living facility. I would gently tell my mom wouldn't it be great if you lived there. When she was 74 I started to lush the idea. I noticed she was no longer going to concerts or other activities downtown. I had her in there just befits she turned 75. Now she's a few city blocks from my house and my BF is a few blocks past that. The ckeanouf of her condo was terrible-- it was very pretty and for the most part okay, but getting rid of stacks of magazines and books etc was a terrible struggle.

My reasoning to get her into assisted living was to do it before she needed it. And now she will say she's glad she did. She was still driving for another year or two, and she was able to ease into it while still active.

It's tough looking to the future, when big decisions need to be made. Rest up today.
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Dianne
Posted: 12 January 2015 - 05:00 AM
I lost that last post and had to rewrite it.

One of the things I forgot to rewrite was that Tat, you are such a wonderful support for your mother and your brother and they are so blessed to have you!

I am very blessed too with a wonderful family. Like your mother and brother have opened themselves to your loving care and help I'm thinking it's time for me to seriously consider doing the same. We get so settled in our ruts and are so resistant to change not even able to recognize how nice those changes could be. Whether the changes are small or huge there comes a time to let go and accept the help that's offered to us. Easier said or written than done. I really, really need to do more work on myself.
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Dianne
Posted: 12 January 2015 - 04:43 AM
Tat, it was a *hit the wall* feeling of tired by the time I got home. So now I'm up at 3:30 feeling uncomfortable. This old body forgets its limits when the mind is saying go! But I do love children and I was especially pleased that two of the boys remembered me from the games we played at Halloween and were happy to see me and show off their basketball skills.

I'm so happy your mother is in more comfortable, pleasant surroundings! It's good for her health and spirits and good for you because you don't have to worry as much. It's nice for her to have a few pretty new things like the chair cushions and the little table. And really nice of you to reinforce her progress without pushing her.

My daughter and son-in-law are looking at a much larger home to buy in their area. Five bedrooms each with its own private bathroom. A couple powderrooms on other floors. Massive rooms and the basement is completely finished including a kitchen and bar, exercise room, several entertainment areas and a small basketball court. The basement is a walkout to a patio. There's also a very large, screened and glassed covered addition off the breakfast room which, because of the slope of the yard, is almost 2nd story height. It has lots of beautiful outdoor furniture and a raised firepit thing to sit around. That has stairs down to the patio and overlooks beautiful parkland.

They want Laura and I to move in with them. I know I have to downsize from this house within 10 years. But we have a lot more land here which I dearly love, several deck areas, a patio, pool and poolhouse. This is a very large traditional house where I raised my family. I don't want to give that up.

But Tat, hearing about how pleased your mom is with her place makes me want to slow the pace of my life. I think in a couple years I'd like to have my daughter kind of take the reins. I'm tired. I had hoped at some point they would move into this house but they don't want the expense of keeping up the property. I would also wait til a few more of our animals have passed away. More are in the geriatric ages now and I don't want them stressed with a new environment.

Of course it also means I would need to really amp up getting rid of things. My daughter's family are clean, clean people. After allowing myself and my other daughter to live a very relaxed life to put it gently it would be a huge adjustment for us to eat regular meals, always clean up after ourselves and wear clean clothes every day.

Then there's the people. They are very social and I'm not crazy about......people. I like my privacy and their house tends to be the gathering place. Even more so with all that entertainment stuff available.

I don't know. That's probably why I'm awake in the middle of the night too. I don't like change. But I think I need to accept that sooner or later it's going to happen. And I should be getting ready while I can rather than wait til the bitter end and have it be forced upon me.

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Tatoulia
Posted: 11 January 2015 - 08:49 PM
That's a good type of tired feeling, Dianne. I bet you sleep well tonight !

Cushions are great. Look really nice and mom finds them comfortable. I also bought her a tiny table to go between her two upholstered chairs. It's a piece of garbage but I wanted to get something as a placeholder til I find something nice for her. It's the right size and height, and it actually looks okay, but it's a piece of junk at heart.

I changed her sheets and took her bag for goodwill. She seems very pleased and I even got her to agree to donate a few decorative boxes (which I had purchased for her several years ago to put gifts in). She's pliable right now but I'm not going to take advantage of that. I'm just going to reinforce her progress. I picked up Kleenexes she had dropped and I know it's hard for her to bend. That sort of stuff. It was so nice and not crowded and so pleasant. I am happy for her!!

Wishing you all a goodnight. Would live to hear from LR and Mel and Bitsy and Roxie and Diane and everyone else! If I forgot to list you, inadvertent. Trust me, I count you all as my friends!
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Dianne
Posted: 11 January 2015 - 07:46 PM
Tat, it sounds like your mom is all set. Did she like the new chair cushions?

Tillie, hope you feel better.

After the daily chores my daughter and I went to spend the day with my grandkids. They have a new basketball net outside and we played with some neighborhood kids. I was surprised to see we had more snow than they did although they are a good deal further north. Then dodge ball and some other roughhousing after dinner and I was almost too tired to drive home. But the nightly routine for fur babies must be taken care of.

This week I have no outside obligations and a lot of plans for inside work.

take care ~~

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Tatoulia
Posted: 11 January 2015 - 05:59 PM
Oh Tillie I'm so sorry to hear about your health. I wish I could snap my fingers and be there to help you out! I also wish I had the right words to provide you with the type of comfort you have provided me. You are gifted and sympathetic and practical and funny and supportive and I truly appreciate you. I think of you as part of my life, and I thank you for the important role you have played in getting my eyes open to the reality of my life.
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Tillie
Posted: 11 January 2015 - 02:42 PM
Hi :)

Been busy ever since I got up, doing "stuff".
Just now 12:30 so I am resting.
Got a LOT accomplished today.
"He" woke up and got out of bed, so far...
Tomorrow I will do a little general house cleaning and then spend the rest of the week taking care of my health along with doing the usual daily stuff, like taking care of the cats.

Really want to get outside and do some winter clean up in the garden area. Prune some things, rake a little.
Wishing I was well enough for it and getting depressed since I can't.

Oh Well.....
Hope you all are having a fun productive day. :D
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