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dave
Posted: 30 January 2015 - 01:15 AM
I have done battle with the microwave. Not sure of the winner. I have my Warm Oatmeal Cookie hot chocolate. I also have a lightly burned throat.

I am busily not admitting to my depression, failures, lack of cleaning progress and the conflicts that is creating.

I experienced the eerie "someone's walking on your grave" feeling a little bit ago while washing dishes. I hope I was being prayed for and not cussed out!

I am thinking about some threads I have read in.

Wednesday afternoon I went to end of the ladder height in 2 mulberry trees and did some trimming. Wednesday night and this afternoon I managed to reduce a large mess to a compact pile of short sticks in the trash can. One round of spring yard waste out of the way in January! (I may or may not have been safer than last summer, the chain saw is broken so I only had a hand saw and pruners.)

I am wondering how long it takes for the dog to show symptoms.

I am wishing each of you a nice day in a few hours and shutting down.
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Tillie
Posted: 29 January 2015 - 09:38 AM
Good morning :)

Hi LR2014 :)

Maybe ask if they still have the microwave owners manual around or possibly look it up online for that model.
This should tell you more about how to nuke veggies without jerking them or blowing them up. :)

People naturally have their ups and downs.
Life happens and we all have our fears and worries about the outcomes of events and issues.
Sometimes just having a place to share helps us.
Many times I look around me for the good and positive to write about rather than the ugly and bad in my life and that helps me to see the positive and not focus only on the negative.
Sort of like writing in the what are you grateful for thread.
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Tillie
Posted: 28 January 2015 - 10:03 PM
No.
You might make the dog sick.
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Dave
Posted: 28 January 2015 - 09:01 PM
drive by question:
Inquiring minds want to know if it safe to lick dog's noses?
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Dave
Posted: 28 January 2015 - 09:00 PM
drive by question:
Inquiring minds want to know if it safe to lick dog's noses?
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LR2014
Posted: 28 January 2015 - 06:04 PM
Hi to everybody. I've been having a "down" afternoon (mood-wise). A short while ago, I thought about just lying down for a while and "being bummed out." But then I thought about catching up some on some of the posts here. I'm glad I chose the latter.

I noticed there has been a lot of discussion of sharing the downs as well as the ups. I'm so glad that people in the past have done that here (shared both). If I read about how everybody was always happy and cheerful and "successful" all the time, I wouldn't really want to be here (on the message board). I would feel like I had to always put on an act, and I would feel like I was watching some scripted movie of some sort instead of interacting with real people dealing with real life. I would feel like something was wrong with me when I started slipping backwards and would probably feel hopeless again. Instead, I can more clearly see ups and downs as just a natural part of the process of changing.

Speaking of changes, it's been over a week now since I left my apartment and have been staying at my friends' house. On the amusing side of things, one challenge has been to get used to different appliances, including the microwave. Diane, I have turned more than a couple of servings of frozen veggies into "veggie jerky." I have yet to figure out how to work the settings on their microwave to make my veggies come out right. I thought that surely by today, I'd have it figured out. Instead, at lunch today I managed to create a small "veggie explosion" inside the microwave that had to be cleaned up. :(

Hugs to all. Jessica, I'm really glad you have joined us.

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Dianne
Posted: 28 January 2015 - 09:11 AM
Tillie, take care of that cold. Napping with kitties is a very good thing. Projects will still be there ready when you are.

Today is bright, sunny and bitterly cold. A good day to stay in and get some work done.

I think one of the reasons I backslide is that I get too rigid about maintenance. I spend so much time doing that and areas that have gotten junky again get neglected. I get discouraged, tired, don't care and then it really goes downhill in all areas.

So I'm going to try and be more balanced about maintaining cleaned areas. These aren't just little pick-up things. (Well some are.) They are the big time consumers like scrubbing floors everyday on hands and knees. With all the animals the hands and knees scrubbing does have to be done (my OCD just will not allow a mop) but maybe not every single day. The litter boxes do need daily scooping but maybe not every time I pass one and see a poop. It's nice to wipe down the washer and dryer but not every day.

Instead of being rigidly tied to my dailies, bi-weeklies, etc. I'm going to use them as guidelines and look at things in a more discerning way. Is this the best use of my time right now?

For me, going to the extreme of making sure the cleaned areas remain just so is as debilitating as the extreme of letting them go completely. Black or white, all or nothing, perfect or a wreck thinking isn't healthy. Moderation and balance is what I will strive for.

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Tillie
Posted: 27 January 2015 - 02:17 PM
I had plans for today.
Fun plans.
Projects I was looking forward to doing today.
But, I woke up with a miserable cold. :(
Been trying to ignore it and wish it away but that is not working.
So, I sit here with the tissue box
looking at my projects all neglected in the corner.
Think I will lay down on the couch with a cat or two and take a nap.
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Dianne
Posted: 27 January 2015 - 08:33 AM
We didn't get as much snow here as other places so I'll be able to run the vehicles so the batteries don't die and get out if necessary.

My plan for today is getting back on top of the daily maintenance, which I was neglecting, and some end of the month paperwork.

Stay warm everyone!
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LR2014
Posted: 26 January 2015 - 03:33 PM
Was just clicking around on the website for a couple of minutes before leaving on some errands, and I saw . . .


Roxie!!!!!


Whoo-hoooooooo!!!!!!!! So great to "see" you!!!


(Hi to everybody else, too!)

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Jessica K..
Posted: 26 January 2015 - 03:08 PM
Thanks to ALL of you for your "ears" and your postings! It is a privilege, indeed, to be one in this group. I find MYSELF in each of your posts .. buying multiples (in case), a warehouse vs. a home, saving the world (instead of my life), a lack of boundaries, no! lack of vintage dishes, the need to analyze every item I pick up ( re-any possible use? ; and then, who? what? where?). I frequently give up before I make the determination and the item stays where it is. Getting started is ALWAYS an issue. BITSY - I'm going to think of you as I NEVER GIVE UP! My best wishes to you all!
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Tatoulia
Posted: 26 January 2015 - 01:21 PM
God bless you, Tillie
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Tillie
Posted: 26 January 2015 - 12:16 PM
Good morning :)

Monday, again....
This weekend I sent a lot of stuff off to various donation spots.
Two large bags of blankets, linens and other household cloth items to the local animal shelter.
Two pair of my very old prescription eye glasses to The Lions for them to give to people who need glasses and can't afford them.
A large bag of assorted items to the charity thrift shop.
Then I sold 30 DVD movies to the local pawn shop.
I had gathered up a lot of other items to donate but the hoarder I live with freaked out and grabbed them all up to add to his hoard.
So even though I have released them from my possession, they are still here on the property, somewhere.
Oh Well...
This just makes me want to get rid of even more of my things, to compensate.
I am running out of things LOL :D
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Tatoulia
Posted: 25 January 2015 - 09:57 PM
Yes, Dianne, yay you! Fantastic work!
Much love to everyone from your very tired friend Tatoulia.
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Dianne
Posted: 25 January 2015 - 07:12 PM
Ok January 25 (hey I just realized one month exactly) and both my live Christmas trees are down and lights put away. Usually it's into the summer. Yay me!

I got a lot done today to prep for the big snow headed our way which means having to keep the dogs in for awhile. Dog and cat beds are all cleaned, litter boxes cleaned and a full load of trash to the dump. Kitchen had some work done and some food we're not going to eat is set aside to feed the fox and squirrels and birds. Floors are washed, although that's just going to have to be done again tomorrow. But getting back to it on a daily basis will make it go quicker.

I ran the vehicles, gassed them up and squeezed the truck into the garage. All kinds of supplies take up the other side.

I'm beat. Will get a bite to eat ~ also went to the grocery store and got only healthy food, can't hardly believe that! Then get everybody bedded down early so I can read a little and go to sleep.

Good Night all!
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Dianne
Posted: 25 January 2015 - 06:59 PM
That's really cool Tillie! It certainly has become the heart and soul of this site! :)
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Tillie
Posted: 25 January 2015 - 10:35 AM
Dianne,
I was talking to Cory and asked if I could make this and he said yes and transferred my introduction here. :)
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Dianne
Posted: 25 January 2015 - 09:24 AM
Hey Tillie, I thought only Cory could create the main categories in the Forum and that we could start new threads. How can we do that?

Diane, we must have been on the same wavelength. I only got one little tree down. I did get the lights put away though instead of left piled on the floor. Today will be the 2nd tree for sure. Same wavelength again ~ I celebrate 2 years here this month. :) That's pretty cool that you got to see your donated items used in such lovely ways. It's a good vision for all of us to hold when we hesitate letting something go for donation. It really will brighten someone else's life!

Roxie, don't wait to catch up on postings. Tell us everything that's been happening in your life!

Today (after the other Christmas tree) I'll be concentrating on the kitchen and breakfast room. Since the laundry room is next to that I can be running laundry all day too.

For those of you with sunshine enjoy it!!
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Diane
Posted: 25 January 2015 - 12:04 AM
loved the blue dish story. I donated lots of pottery last year, then went to a friends and she had bought many of them at thrift store and made yard art by gluing several together, very nice, one little old pink plate, hand painted, gold edge, was the one thing I saw that I regretted donating. I went through her house and searched for all my donations, saw many nice things and thought I should have made this art. Truth is she enjoyed my stuff way more than I did, and used it in a great way to be appreciated by many. As you say Tat, we have too much stuff and have to give away some good stuff, so there is room to live in our space.
I only got 1/2 of dishes washed and put away.
It was sunny today, and WARM, I was outside all day. Cleaned up some slimy leaves off rocks, and cleaned up some of the yard. So much easier this year since I started 2 years ago, cleaning up all the dead junk, and getting rid of yard junk.
Benny had a really good day, went on a long walk. Thanks for the kind words Dianne, I appreciate being acknowledged for my many hours lovingly encouraging Benny to enjoy life here. He usually is just left at kennel, and since he just cowers, could not be out with other dogs, so having my big yard and me home all the time has been so great for him. His parents are aware of how difficult he is and are thrilled he is with me. Roxie, you made me so happy reading that you are safe with brother. Tillie, so great you are back on here sharing your life.
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Tillie
Posted: 24 January 2015 - 07:32 PM
I created "The Daily Chat" because I saw we all needed a safe place to talk to each other.
There are no requirements to be eligible to post here.
Just having some human contact is so very important.
Some weeks the only outside contact I have is right here in "The Daily Chat."
Also, we need to be understood and accepted and we can get that here.
So happy or sad, cleaning or not please keep "talking" here.

:)
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Tillie
Posted: 24 January 2015 - 07:26 PM
ROXIE!!!!!!

(((HUGS))) :D
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Dianne
Posted: 24 January 2015 - 05:08 PM
ROXIE, ROXIE, ROXIE!!!!

I am SOO HAPPY to see you!!!

I had feared that you had a fatal heart attack.

I want to give you massive hugs!!! I missed you so much!!

much much love ~~ Dianne
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Tatoulia
Posted: 24 January 2015 - 03:21 PM
Roxie, my heart leapt! Hello hello!
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Roxie
Posted: 24 January 2015 - 03:06 PM
Finally, I'm back online. The story is too long to tell, but I've been away from home since July, either in a hospital or a nursing home. Now I am at my brother's home in Minnesota, still trying to recover. I've made good progress.

I have so many posts to read through to catch up. Just thought I'd let you know I'm still alive.

Love
Roxie
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Tatoulia
Posted: 24 January 2015 - 11:41 AM
I'd like to second what Dianne said. Lack of progress shouldn't pose a hurdle--we are all here for the same reason! We have too much stuff. Also, Diane, I am continually amazed by your hard work and industry. And I just love hearing from you.

As to newcomers, I think I started here last May. And within a short time I was welcomed warmly. I think it was LR, but it could have been anyone--please remember, we all belong here. We have good days and bad days and great moments and unfortunate moments, just like our real-life friendships. From my perspective, nothing is a deal-breaker here. Each day gives us a new page. So please, the more the merrier! I look forward to reading and posting and sometimes I read more than I post.

And remember, We may see progress where you don't.

Okay off to cook.
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Dianne
Posted: 24 January 2015 - 11:26 AM
Tat, your little blue dish revelation is a giant leap forward!

"....just because I finally found a use for it doesn't mean I need it. Therefore, I'm not going to spend my time ruing the day I let something go...... I can further refine my thinking as I dig in to Level 2: finding a use or potential use is not going to be my guide. My question is, do I need it, now."

I love that as you have been doing Level Work you are refining your thinking! Thinking is the real basis for change. In skipping that process so many hoarders slip back.

Thanks for that inspiration and keep up the great work!!!
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Dianne
Posted: 24 January 2015 - 11:16 AM
Diane, I think everyone should always be welcome here. There shouldn't be a prerequisite that we are actively making progress. IMO. There are so many times we all hit slumps and backslide. If we come here and constantly read of all the wonderful work being done it can hit us in a couple ways ~ we can be inspired and energized or we can be discouraged and think what's wrong with me that I can't get something done in my life. Support comes in all forms, cheering each other on, advice and plain old listening to the pain.

And for any newcomers reading I know it can look intimidating to try and come into a group that has established good friendships. But remember we were all new once. The way we learned about each other was by sharing.

Still, Diane, I am happy to read you had wood delivered, stacked and cleaned the chimney. That's huge work right there, physical and tiring! I'd be done for the day with that. You say you WILL wash the dishes before bedtime. How about this ~ I am not a challenge person so instead, in your honor of pushing through, I will take down my two live (dying) Christmas trees today. I won't promise to get the stuff put away but I will get them down. :)

You are such a good doggy sitter momma to Benny!!! Each time he comes he will respond faster and faster because he'll remember you provide him with safety, love and interaction. There is no way he would get that in a kennel environment. In a kennel people pay extra for walks and playtime. Isn't that sad? I hope Benny's owners realize what a treasure they found in you!!
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Tatoulia
Posted: 24 January 2015 - 10:27 AM
Good morning, everyone! Great to read your posts. There is snow here and it's very pretty. Goingvto relax and wake up before starting my day.

OK I just had an important moment in my kitchen. And I probably won't describe it well. Background: I love vintage dishes and got rid of scads of them this summer (yay!). I use odd saucers and little plates as soap dishes (kitchen, bathroom, tub). I have a little stack of about twelve. As I was switching out the soap dish in kitchen this AM, I thought about a little blue dish that I hemmed and hawed over this summer before relegating it to the goodwill pile. Today, just now, I thought, oh I never thought to use the blue dish as a soap dish, I wish I still had it. Revelation: just because I finally found a use for it doesn't mean I need it. Therefore, I'm not going to spend my time ruing the day I let something go.

I knew this wouldn't sound as dramatic as it felt. But I can't explain it any better right now. So, I can further refine my thinking as I dig in to Level 2: finding a use or potential use is not going to be my guide. My question is, do I need it, now.
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Diane
Posted: 23 January 2015 - 08:26 PM
Thanks Dianne and Tat, so great reading your posts and reassuring me I am still welcome here in spite of doing very little cleaning. Thanks for asking about Max, he went home Sunday night. Benny came to visit on Monday, Benny would not leave his bed first day, each day a little better. Today he actually played fetch with toys I made him.
I got a cord of wood delivered and stacked it. Cleaned chimney really good today. Went to kitchen to dishes several times, and still have not even started them. I WILL wash dishes before bed time. (tonight) Grey all day, with a little rain.
LR congrats on move, I think of you every time I microwave vegetables, so good.
Tillie thanks for reminders on how to go about cleaning and organizing. See you all tomorrow
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Dianne
Posted: 23 January 2015 - 02:20 PM
Bitsy ~ never give up, never give up. You read my soul.

Diane, great to see you! So what if you haven't been keeping up with maintenance. Winter sucks. Well it's actually very beautiful but the down feelings we can get aren't.

Just post. I know how crummy it feels to just post and say, same old same old here.

Sometimes we need to vent or cry and don't want advice. We want understanding and love. You know that's in abundance here. :)

My little Christmas trees are still up. I'm promising myself they will be down before the new ones come in this December.

Spring is coming, we'll all feel better!

How is Mr. Max doing? Good visit? How about Shy Dog? She been back?
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Dianne
Posted: 23 January 2015 - 02:07 PM
Tat it is wonderful to read of all the people you help out of the goodness of your heart! I mean that. So often I listen to the news and just don't get it. Where did all the kindness go? Stories from you make me see it's still all around, it just doesn't get the attention it deserves.

It doesn't surprise me one bit to hear that you mentor at risk inner-city youth. I bet they are drawn to you like bees to honey. I was always impressed when you wrote of cooking for a shUt-in :) or visiting an elderly person. Continuing to look after someone like the fellow whose house you cleaned is a continued blessing for them. Showing visitors your city so they enjoy their stay, wow! :D

We each have a heart for something in life. Clearly yours is to nurture, help, guide, protect and show love for those who need it most in tangible ways. I love you for that!

{{{{{GIANT SQUEEZING HUGS}}}}}

It is VERY nice to know you think I am absolutely terrific. :D But what's cooler is to know the source from whence that compliment comes. Laura and the fur babies thank you as well. :)
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Tatoulia
Posted: 23 January 2015 - 06:52 AM
Diane! Bitsy! Glad to hear from you. I understand those "dry periods" on not getting anything done. Just glad you are here because I miss you. Diane do you still have Max? Have a great day, everyone! Hope to hear from you all and that includes you, Jessica! We are in this together!
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Diane
Posted: 23 January 2015 - 01:14 AM
hello everyone, good to read all of your posts
I have not posting because I have not been keeping up with maintenance and have been dealing with good old winter blahs
I can start over tomorrow and start making progress
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bitsy
Posted: 22 January 2015 - 10:58 PM
Jessica K.,
thank you for posting. It helps me to feel so not all alone. everyone here is so supportive.
it is such a struggle usually for me to get started and get anything done. reading these posts helps.
never give up
never give up
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Tatoulia
Posted: 22 January 2015 - 09:42 PM
Okay okay I wasn't going to admit but since I live in a city and walk everywhere, giving directions that include cut through this building/park here and walk, it's by where the old pharmacy once was etc etc so generally I would walk the person. Recently while going through piles of paper I found letters from a woman from Little Rock AK, whom I met one night and then walked her around the city, ran errands with her, then dropped her off at the hotel. Her exact question that led to this was, is there a grocery store nearby? But that was pleasant , and borne of a desire to make sure that visitors have a good time in my city. And not a chore. So I have walked a lot of people a lot of places. But I'm more discerning now. An English speaking family of four does not need or want my help as they each look at their smartphones for guidance. No need to step up and insist. But an exchange student from Uganda? Let's walk!


I love saving and rescuing things. Not animals because I have a cat and she is plenty. But I do want to save all the cats all the time. One thing I haven't talked about here is I mentor at-risk inner city youth-- or did you know that? When I took the remaining orientsl rugs to my sister's I brought one of the kids with me, but maybe I told everyone that. I too like rescuing people, old people, everyone, but I'm in "not taking in any new patients" mode right now. Taking care of the people who are precious to me (the youths in the city, mom, a few assorted elderly people, brother, one disabled person and that's it). Sometimes I resent it when I go to mom's and the people just expect me to do for them. If they have children or spouses or even paid help I won't. But if they need me, truly need someone, I am there. And I can tell the difference.

I also cook for shut ins, as I think you might know because I think I used the expression shit-ins once by mistake. So if Diane with one n is out there, this shit-in is for you. The trash hoarder whose house I cleaned and cleared before hisive lives in a beautiful place now and in fact, I am cooking for him at his house this weekend. I cooked for him at his house a couple of weeks back and it went okay.

Now none of this has anything to do with my career, I just do this as I walk through life.

Before I sign off,Dianne I think you are terrific. Absolutely terrific. Isn't that nice to know? You are loving and warm and welcoming. And your rescue of animals makes me happy. I think of your daughter reading to them. And i feel something palpable yet indescribable.
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Dianne
Posted: 22 January 2015 - 08:45 PM
Ahh no Tat. I find it extremely hard to say nice things about myself. So much easier to see the good in others! But I'm trying to learn to say, hey Dianne, great job. So keep your prayers coming they are always very much appreciated here!!

Your story of stepping in to give directions is mine too! I've even gone so far as to say, "I don't pay attention to road names (being rural) only landmarks so follow me and I'll get you there." I rescue animals, people, books, old beloved toys, things that others have kept as treasures in their memories.

I'm quite sure it's because I have always felt the very desperate need to be rescued myself. I know the horrible fear of feeling totally incapable of taking care of myself in abandonment. My lack of healthy boundaries makes me project my fears/needs onto another (whether they feel it or not) and I feel I must spare them those awful feelings.

It takes many mistakes and some time to accept we are not the world's saviors. :)

Great job on the purse and wallet switch-out! I am a bag lady and appreciate a beautifully organized handbag. :D
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Dianne
Posted: 22 January 2015 - 08:24 PM
Jessica, as hoarders we isolate ourselves. And that can feel good. It feels safe. It can also feel lonely and odd. Sharing is HUGE progress!! I can't tell you how much I've learned about myself by posting here. There are times I've felt utterly stupid and weird. I ramble and I get overinvolved and I learn. I also get to understand others' reasoning and behaviors. Sometimes I get hurt and pull back into my turtle shell. And then I come out again and keep that turtle crawl going. What an amazing journey!!

So happy to have you on it as well! :)
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Tatoulia
Posted: 22 January 2015 - 07:54 PM
Dianne, thank you for saying such lovely things about me. I take them to heart and can only pray that you say as many nice things about yourself. Tillie, I thank you for your encouragement. Easily got another bag of things together today--cardigans that have seen a better day. welcome Jessica--glad to see you posting!!!

I would buy multiples of things on sale--not paper towels or other stuff that will be used--but Christmas stuff or Easter stuff or books or pots or this thing or that thing. This way, I could have at least one for me and be the hero and give away to someone. BTW Dianne, you have a fantastic memory. I say to myself all the time, like a mantra, I am not a warehouse. It feels great. And I note that my need to rescue the world is spilling over to other areas of my life. Before, if I saw someone who was getting directions, I would step in and add my two cents. If I saw someone who needed directions and I didn't know where it was, I would find someone to tell them. How obnoxious. If they already have someone helping them, who elected me mayor to step in and contribute? And isn't it okay to say "I don't know" once in a while? I still need to rescue people and help out and my generous spirit is intact, I just no longer have this crazy notion that the world is looking to me to have an extra Phillips head screwdriver on hand.

Tonight I am switching out purses to the new one that Santa (aka my sweetheart) brought me and I'm swapping out wallet too. Old wallet can be thrown out; old purse will be emptied completely, put in a fabric bag, and placed on shelf in bedroom. Old purse was a gift ftom BF probably 8 years ago and I've used it on and off for 8 years. I never fail to get a compliment on it.

Missing you all and sending you my love. Don't sell yourself short, Jessica. We need you here!
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Jessica K.
Posted: 22 January 2015 - 03:33 PM
Dianne - Thanks for the kind and understanding encouragement ! I know there are millions(?) of "us" in varying degrees of "mess and distress". Yet, I feel quite isolated. Again - I am mystified at my OWN habits and behavior. Sharing IS progress.
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Dianne
Posted: 22 January 2015 - 12:38 PM
Tillie, I absolutely agree with your assessment of your hoarder. I used the same justifications for my things.

When I offered some stuff that would be politely rejected it brought up uncomfortable feelings. I felt personally rejected (over connection with my stuff) and miffed that they didn't appreciate my *generosity*. It kind of furthered my thinking that perhaps I should just keep all these wonderful things for myself since no one else appreciates them anyway.

Whenever I look at extras now I think Tat's thought ~ my home is not a warehouse. If someone by some odd chance would ask me if I have a whatever that they could borrow or have I can say not any more.
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Dianne
Posted: 22 January 2015 - 12:25 PM
Hi Jessica, welcome!

Believe me there is still plenty of fear and anxiety here. I struggle with that daily. No matter what stage of hoarding you find yourself there are always valuable contributions to a post. Perhaps you say something as a beginner in this process that awakens something in another reader not posting and they feel understood.

Or one of us has been backsliding and your post will have some inspiration to get us back on track.

Our ships aren't always floating as well as it might look. We'll help you pull up your Titanic while you help us bail the continuing leaks in ours. :)

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Jessica K.
Posted: 22 January 2015 - 12:08 PM
I've only recently started "eavesdropping" on these chats. It has been comforting. Fear/Anxiety have stopped me from contributing ... much the way they've stopped me from actually making progress with my own SERIOUS situation. I don't understand why. You all seem relatively evolved in your progress. I feel like I'm trying to bail out a ship that sank a long time ago (Titanic !)
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Tillie
Posted: 22 January 2015 - 11:21 AM
Mr. Hoarder, the hoarder I live with, justifies acquiring and keeping a LOT of stuff by saying
"maybe somebody will need this someday and I will have it and can give it to them".

Whenever he has tried to give something to someone they don't want or need it.

I think the "keeping it for others" is just an excuse for keeping it all for himself.
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Dianne
Posted: 22 January 2015 - 09:54 AM
Tat, you said something that was an eye opener for me, just the way you worded it ~ I am not a warehouse to store things for others. Really gave me a new perspective as I had stored huge amounts of stuff for my married daughter because she likes to keep her home with only what they use/need. She has no problem at all culling and donating. Little by little I am taking things that belong to her to her home and say I'm clearing some things and wanted you to make the decisions on these. I never ask what happens after that, it's hers.

Level work is the best if there are no time constraints or other pressing issues. For those without severe hoarding issues (like actually saving trash or rotting food not just avoiding it) the first level allows us to clear things that don't need a lot of decision making. It can still be very hard but it probably doesn't involve the agonizing that comes with the later levels. But by the time we get to the later levels, as you said Tat, you feel good and strong. You've seen that you can make excellent decisions, the anxiety does lessen and as your home opens up you can appreciate what you accomplished and feel very successful. Those feelings can crush the need to hoard!

Level work does involve some redundancy in handling items more than once. But for a hoarder, trying to make decisions on one item at a time can be destructively overwhelming as we can see on any Hoarder show. Overall, when someone is dehoarding on his/her own and can make use of support like we have here, I think level clearing is an excellent choice.

Empty space can feel freeing and give clarity especially to one who has been literally surrounded by stuff. Depending on the size of the dwelling it can also feel frighteningly open, untethered and cold. For a hoarder to find a good balance in their comfort level probably involves more head work than just *getting rid of*.

When I first had my upper front hallway completely cleared I was a bit afraid I would fall over the railing into the foyer although there was a ridiculous amount of space and had no need to be even near the railing. Having it hoarded made it much more likely I would trip and fall. My backwards thinking made no rational sense but I felt *safer* with some furniture there and added a few pieces. Above one fireplace I had a large painting and on the mantel, at either end, two statues complimenting the painting. There was plenty of open space along the mantel under the picture so I filled it with lots of small sculptures of many dog breeds and a centerpiece of St. Francis. The overall effect was much too crowded and took away from each piece on display. As my hoarder eyes were clearing I could remove 90% of the grouping and see how the empty space gave correct focus to the three pieces that were left.

Tat, your approach, on your own, with help from people here and with help in the real world has been a model of success! I mentioned before and repeat again, I really, really hope you stick around to offer your excellent, hard-earned advice. Your compassion and support are also invaluable. Fighting our hoarding tendencies will probably be life-long. It is so uplifting to know someone who is getting on top of it!

Excellent work on the jammie donation bag!!

(how funny ~~ my code to put in has PJ in it haha)

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Tillie
Posted: 21 January 2015 - 10:05 PM
YEA!!!! :D
Way To Go! Tatoulia
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Tatoulia
Posted: 21 January 2015 - 09:34 PM
Bag of jammies already in the car, destined for Goodwill! Washed them so they are fresh.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 21 January 2015 - 11:38 AM
I learned, over the summer, that I keep and buy stuff in case someone needs it and I must tell you I am forever cured of that. I will work on clothes with everyone's tips in mind. Tillie, it's funny that you mentioned empty spaces because now I like having shelf room and empty spots. It makes my home feel less crowded. I will work on closet including making decisions on next level of shoes and purses.

You know, I found the first level of dehoarding hard, and saved stuff so I could decide on second level, yet I'm not afraid and not anxious. I feel good and strong. Thanks to everyone here.
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Tillie
Posted: 21 January 2015 - 10:59 AM
The main rule when decluttering, minimizing and organizing possessions is
"just because there is room to store an item, that does not mean we should keep the item."

Everything must meet certain criteria if it is to be kept.
What questions do you ask yourself when deciding keep, toss or donate?

Try not to keep things just "because"...
somebody may need that someday and I will have it here for them.
Someday I may need a thing like that and would hate that I once had it but let it go.
I spent good money on it and letting it go would be wasteful even though I have no need for it or even like it any more.
Or any other just "because" reasons you may think of.

It is a very personal decision as to what we decide to keep.
It is a very personal reason as to how much stuff or empty space we each need to feel comfortable in our homes.
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Dianne
Posted: 21 January 2015 - 10:49 AM
LR, this is the very best news!! :D

A fresh, new start!!! You deserve it after all your very hard work!!

{{{BIG HUGS}}}
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lue
Posted: 21 January 2015 - 10:49 AM
Congratulations on your new place LR! I don't know how u did it but way to go. your my hero.
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