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Tatoulia
Posted: 05 October 2014 - 06:58 AM
Hello everyone!

Sandy, I think the best advice is your own advice--do what you can and do not be afraid. I read your post several times and can't quite picture the set-up but I don't need to. It is clear that you have a big heart and are trying to feed as many strays as possible. Please see if there is someone in your area that can help you with your situation. Do what you can and do not be afraid!

I am happy to hear from LR and Diane! I've missed you both. Glad to hear of all the work you are doing! LR, papers seem to breed over night at my house. I shred and shred and shred and still there's more. Diane, once again you amaze me with your hard work!

As for me, no progress, a few moments of backsliding. Weekends are filled with taking care of everyone but me. I asked mom if she wants to clear out more stuff and she does and I asked her which bookshelf we should work in next. She picked the toughest, but the one that will have the most impact-- the one she us wedged up against when she sits at that tiny little cleared area of her table. I think I opened my eyes and her eyes when I discovered that situation.

Going to get up, read the paper (if it's been delivered) and then I am visiting a friend who is 95 or 96. I haven't seen her in a long time and I feel sad and guilty. So today will be great! I will bring pastries from the new patisserie in town (authentic French pastries) and will enjoy our time together.
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Diane
Posted: 05 October 2014 - 12:15 AM
Hi, I have had a busy week. Yesterday a friend came over and helped me do some work here. Today I Put two coats on steps on hte east side of deck that I scraped and washed last week. 2nd coat on the steps on North side. My dryer stopped working last week. Read up on it, guess I have to take top off and check fuses and something else
Tomorrow I am going to the Fall festival , lots of artists. I was going to go today but it was 85n degrees when I finished workiing here
'Nice reading all of the posts
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LR2014
Posted: 04 October 2014 - 08:15 PM
Hi, everybody. I'm more behind on reading posts than I have been since I started here! My next task for the evening is to get caught up on this week's posts!

It's been a busy week for me. I got a major "financial paperwork task" dealt with and sent off this week to a lovely government agency which shall remain nameless. (I'd filed for an extension in the spring.) Nice to have that over with for another year! Yea!

I've continued to look for things to sell and have gotten a few things sold (emphasis on the word "few") during the week. Every little bit of "stuff" that goes out the door counts, as far as I'm concerned! I've also gotten some items cleaned up in preparation for selling them later.

I've done various cleaning tasks while working with others in the chat room this week. As always, that's very helpful to me.

I did a lot of physical work outside today, and I'm very tired. It's a "good" kind of tired, though, the kind of tired I experience when I've gotten a lot of good exercise. And I had fun while doing the work, so that's a plus. Now I get to relax and read everybody's posts. : ) Hugs to everyone.
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Sandy
Posted: 04 October 2014 - 06:09 PM
Today I successfully moved a cat indoors from the front of our house where he normally runs loose, and this is an achievement. Most of our cats are in our backyard inside a cat fence, but 3 of them have lived in front of our house roaming free for the past 6 years. Here's why I moved a cat indoors. Last week the door to our house blew open during the day when no one was home. The mailman was alarmed, and he called the police. They came out and saw that some of our cats had run out. They alerted the animal compliance officer and the code enforcement officer about the cats. They came by the next day to nose around the outside of my house. I was prepared because I had spoken with the police. The animal compliance officer said that the cats inside my cat fence are not violating a code, though there are smells in the back yard that he said I must address using garden lime. No neighbor has ever noticed or complained about the smells in my yard, but the compliance officer appeared to be hunting for animal code violations on my part. He did not cite me, but he told me to fix what he deemed to be a problem. The animal compliance officer also said that I must stop feeding the cats in the front outside the fence (even though there is no code against this) because he said it will attract other cats. He said I have to move the cat shelter in front of my house to inside my cat fence, because I cannot provide a shelter outside for stray cats. There is no code against this either, but I am not going to argue with the animal officer and get him angry. He is coming back in 2 weeks to check up on whether I have fixed what he apparently deems to be code violations. I have been worried about this, but I am taking steps to do what he said. He did say that he has never had a complaint from a neighbor about my cats, and he acted amazed by this. Anyhow, it is my hope that I can show him that I did what he asked me to do and there are no code violations. My 3 cats have been living on the loose in front of the house in their cat shelter since 2008 and have never caused a problem, but now I have to move them. Oh, well. I will do what I must and try not to be afraid.
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Tillie
Posted: 04 October 2014 - 05:24 PM
Hey :)

Lazy day here today, nothing getting accomplished but that's ok 'cause I don't care.
Went grocery shopping, bought some food.
Ate lunch. Need/want to take a nap.
Tomorrow I will do stuff around here.
Plan is to wash windows, screens, porches & door mats tomorrow.

TTYL :)
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Tatoulia
Posted: 04 October 2014 - 03:30 PM
Very motivating to read about your Autumn cleaning, Tillie. I slept in today, grey day in the northeast. Have been taking my usual suspects on their errands. Coming up on 4:30 and I haven't done anything for myself today other than sleep in! Ah, the night's still young!

Hope everyone is having a great day!
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Tillie
Posted: 03 October 2014 - 10:53 AM
Good Morning :)

WAY TO GO!!!! Everybody! :D

Already have three loads of laundry on the clothes line and a fourth one in the machine.
Washing mattress pads, a quilt, table cloths and other stuff from around the house.
Temperatures will be in the low 80s today so I am taking advantage of the warm day to get heavy things dried on the line.
Busy, busy day today. Doing lots of little things that will really add up in the long run.
I LOVE my "Spring" cleaning in the Autumn! :D

Have a good one!
TTYL :)
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Tatoulia
Posted: 03 October 2014 - 05:44 AM
Mel, congratulations! You are doing a great job. I'm glad you are getting your mammogram today--For me, once I started working on my hoard, I found it easier to take care of myself. It was as though the chaos/clutter in my house was stopping me from taking care of other things in my life.

Keep up the good work! So pleased to read your posts!
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Mel99
Posted: 02 October 2014 - 11:20 PM
Hi all, thanks for the support :)

Sandy, I agree with the others who say to find a cleaner to help you out. Is it possible to just tell them that the junk rooms are off limits? I do totally understand your worry though. When I had a plumber come out a couple years ago when my toilet wasn't working, he was not nice and I had worries that he would contact the health department or something. I'm really sorry that the other cleaner tried reporting you. That's awful. What about the second house cleaner you hired to come out before CPS came? Could you call them again?

Tatoulia, it sounds like your visit with your mom went as well as it could have! That's so great! Hopefully this is the beginning of a smooth transition.

Tillie, I love it when I wake up early and I have time to go back to sleep for a while. It's so nice!

I worked late today and went to the gym, worked out, and had a nice shower. When I got home, I really didn't feel like doing any cleaning but I convinced myself to sort through three boxes of stuff. Unfortunately, a lot of it was stuff that needs to be shredded, but I opened all the envelopes and threw all the stuff that didn't need to be shredded into the recycling bin. Now my recycling bin is full.

I made a to-do list of all of the stuff i need to do. It's huge. But it might feel good to mark stuff off the list. I'm off work tomorrow so I'm really hopeful I can make some good progress in the morning. I have a mammogram at 1 so I'm going to clean in the morning, go to get my mammogram, and then go do laundry. I'll be heading over to my boyfriend's in the evening and I hope that I will have another tote bag of books and at least one bag of clothes to put in the drop box on my way over there.

Happy almost Friday everyone!
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Tatoulia
Posted: 02 October 2014 - 09:24 PM
Bitsy I would help you in a heartbeat! No need for a twin! You kept me honest and kind today. Thank you!
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bitsy
Posted: 02 October 2014 - 09:07 PM
Tatoulia,
Sounds really great and balanced.Do you have a twin to come and help me? just kidding.Treasure your time together.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 02 October 2014 - 08:32 PM
Sandy we are here for you. It is tough to break these habits. You are teaching your daughter resilience and perseverance and strength. What a wonderful example for her. Keep chipping away and develop new habits! I have faith in you. And if you lose faith in yourself, we are here, standing by your side.
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Sandy
Posted: 02 October 2014 - 08:02 PM
Thanks to those who have offered support and useful recommendations for help with my hoarding problem. It's true that just because you clean your house once, it doesn't stay that way automatically. It takes regular effort, and old habits are hard to break. I will take the leap and hire the cleaning service. I will use the service that I hired the last time....the cleaner that did not call Child Protective Services.


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Tillie
Posted: 02 October 2014 - 05:45 PM
YEA!!!! Tatoulia!
WAY TO GO!!! :D
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Tatoulia
Posted: 02 October 2014 - 05:37 PM
Mom's a champ! I went over 1/2 hour before her dinner, so there'd be a definite end to the exercise. Mom was fantastic. I got her a chair and I held up everything on the bookshelf by the door. If she said keep, I put it right back. If she said donate, I put it in a donation box. We also made a box of books she thought my boyfriend's sister might like. She decided everything within seconds and I put right back if she said keep. No discussion, other than she enjoyed talking about some of the books.

It was great. She agreed that it went well and if looks really nice when first walking in. We got rid of more than half the stuff on that bookshelf and the keepers are nicely arranged. We discussed our next steps and I left with the boxes.

Fantastic! She had gathered up three bags of garbage during the day and I took those too.

I will try again on Saturday, but after I've taken her out for some fun. She was great. I will check in with her tonight to see how she's doing. I hope she'll be up for another round this weekend.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 02 October 2014 - 03:48 PM
Yay Tillie! Sometimes those stolen hours on the AM are the best sleep ever! Yay!

Heading to mom's where I will be kind and understanding and not raise my voice. I'll brush the kitty at while I'm there because that's something that will make both of them happy. I won't rush through it. I'll show my mother respect. She's my mother, she's an old lady, she's tired and she's overwhelmed. Oh my goodness, I'm practically drawing a picture of myself!!

Take care, dear friends.
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Tillie
Posted: 02 October 2014 - 12:48 PM
Hi again :)

Woke up at 6:00am, laid back down and slept until 9:00am.
Must have needed the sleep. :)
Taking it slow today, doing some laundry and a little bit of housework.
Last night got a weather warning about the first freeze. Unhooked the water hoses from the outside faucets.

TTYL :)
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Tillie
Posted: 02 October 2014 - 12:11 PM
Good Morning :)
Great to read so many updates!


Hi Tatoulia :)
If your Mom is resistant to sorting out some books, ask her what category se would feel more comfortable with starting on. Maybe start with a pile of junk mail & work your way up to that book shelf.
Once she sees that it can be done without her getting anxious she will be more willing to tackle the harder decisions.
Keep reminding her that it's for her health and safety to have clear pathways, clear doorways, clear access to windows, no clutter around heat sources like heaters, stove/oven and water heater.
(((hugs))) good luck. :)

Hi Bitsy :)

Hi Mel99 :)
WAY TO GO!!! for all you are accomplishing! :D
Keep baiting and setting the mouse traps.
There must be a "bumper crop" of mice this year.
Yes, poison bait too often kills other animals instead of the targeted pests.
To keep mice from taking the bait but not getting trapped I tie a piece of food like cat/dog kibble to the trap and smear peanut butter onto the food. The mice get greedy and try to take the tied on food and end up tripping the trap. ;)
Plus the boyfriend's cats will appreciate any "fun toys" you may have running around.
Mice learn quickly to stay out of houses with cats.

Hi Sandy :)
Keeping a home clean involves "Daily Maintenance" and weekly, monthly and annual cleaning tasks.
Daily maintenance is keeping the home clear of clutter (putting things away after we use them) and cleaning a little bit to keep the clean areas clean (wipe up spills, sweep, vacuum as needed).
Since your home is clean enough to pass a CPS inspection please keep looking for a cleaning person to help you do the weekly, biweekly or monthly cleaning.
With this help you will be able to maintain your home and also have time and motivation to finally get to sorting out those other rooms.
I know you are afraid to ask for help cleaning right now but honestly, it will be the best thing for you. (((hugs)))

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Tatoulia
Posted: 02 October 2014 - 11:20 AM
Oops I thought I was writing TO Sandy and mistakenly logged in AS Sandy! Last post was from me, Tatoulia.
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Sandy
Posted: 02 October 2014 - 11:18 AM
I am so sorry about your circumstances. I have been working on my hoard slowly and surely and still I have clutter creep. So no matter if it's all at once, or day after day after day, the basic habit of hoarding is (I am learning) a powerful habit to break. Let me congratulate you on your hard work-- this is very tough and I hope you take a moment to congratulate yourself on having made great progress and giving your daughter a lovely home to live in. Don't be discouraged--and when you are, remember we are here to help and support you.

Mel, I'm sorry you are sad and I'm sorry about the mice! Trust me, once you have kitty cats living there, the mice will stay away. Keep your chin up--you are making progress.

Will write more later.
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Mel99
Posted: 02 October 2014 - 09:47 AM
Good morning everyone, I hope we all have a good day today!

i'm having a rough morning today. I live across from a field and every fall i get a few mice in the house. I usually keep a couple traps out and usually catch them. On Tuesday I caught a mouse and saw two more, so I went out and got more traps and set them. Over the next couple days I caught 4 more and this morning when I got up, all of the traps were empty and i was feeling better about it. I decided to move a couple of traps around in case there were some other areas that needed to get checked. That was when I noticed the bait in the traps were gone, and one of them had several dropping around it. So feeling really disheartened now. I don't really want to put down poison because I don't want dead mice all over the house,plus my boyfriend and his cats will be moving in next month and I don't want to accidentally poison them with poisoned mice :(

On the plus side, yesterday I put out my garbage and recyclables, I donated a big tote bag full of books and a full bag of clothes at a donation box, and I gave my friend a box of stuff that she was interested in.

My boyfriend hasn't been here in a few weeks and a week from today, we're celebrating the anniversary of our first date by revisiting the place we went for our first date, and he's going to spend the night. I feel like I've made a lot of progress but I also feel like you can't really see the progress. Just feeling sad about it today.

Good luck to everyone today. Tatoulia, special good wishes for your time with your mom tonight!
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Mel99
Posted: 02 October 2014 - 09:47 AM
Good morning everyone, I hope we all have a good day today!

i'm having a rough morning today. I live across from a field and every fall i get a few mice in the house. I usually keep a couple traps out and usually catch them. On Tuesday I caught a mouse and saw two more, so I went out and got more traps and set them. Over the next couple days I caught 4 more and this morning when I got up, all of the traps were empty and i was feeling better about it. I decided to move a couple of traps around in case there were some other areas that needed to get checked. That was when I noticed the bait in the traps were gone, and one of them had several dropping around it. So feeling really disheartened now. I don't really want to put down poison because I don't want dead mice all over the house,plus my boyfriend and his cats will be moving in next month and I don't want to accidentally poison them with poisoned mice :(

On the plus side, yesterday I put out my garbage and recyclables, I donated a big tote bag full of books and a full bag of clothes at a donation box, and I gave my friend a box of stuff that she was interested in.

My boyfriend hasn't been here in a few weeks and a week from today, we're celebrating the anniversary of our first date by revisiting the place we went for our first date, and he's going to spend the night. I feel like I've made a lot of progress but I also feel like you can't really see the progress. Just feeling sad about it today.

Good luck to everyone today. Tatoulia, special good wishes for your time with your mom tonight!
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Tatoulia
Posted: 02 October 2014 - 06:47 AM
Bitsy, thank you for your words of support ! We will see how it goes tonight. I am trying very hard to apply all of the lessons I'm learning here and appreciate all feedback! It's certainly one thing to work on myself and another to have to help my mom open her eyes. I tried to use the word "we" with mom so she would feel involved and not so much that I'm coming over to just throw things out. I want her to feel like it's just a project, like knitting a sweater. Good to hear from you, dear Bitsy. I hope all is well with you.

Sandy I haven't read your post yet and look forward to doing so once I'm up and having a cup of coffee.
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Sandy
Posted: 02 October 2014 - 05:16 AM
I have not posted here in months. Hello to all. Apparently I was under the incorrect impression that doing a major cleanup one time would solve this problem. But the junk returns. I last posted back in the winter when I was planning to move my daughter upstairs to a new bedroom. I bought her new furniture, and I organized a sleepover 12th birthday party for her. Before the party I cleared out the clutter from the house as much as I could. Then I hired a house cleaner. I was lucky to find someone at the last minute who would come out in the middle of a huge snowstorm and clean the house. The house cleaner cleaned and cleaned. When she was finished, she said she would be happy to come out on a regular basis, and she gave me her card. She said, "In 9 years of house cleaning, this is the second worst house I have ever cleaned." I asked, "What was the worst house?" She answered, "A hoarder. But don't worry; you are not a hoarder." Of course, she did not know that I am a hoarder, and I had spent a long time clearing out clutter before she came. Anyhow, I did not call her again because she had used ammonia in cleaning, and I had to leave the house while she was cleaning because it affected my lungs so badly. After her visit, I kept the house reasonably clean and orderly. About a month later, I got a call from child protective services. The lady said that someone had called and reported my house for being unclean. I am pretty certain that the house cleaner called them, as no one else had visited in that time. I made an appointment for the CPS lady to come over. The house was reasonably clean, but I hired another house cleaner before her visit just in case. The house looked great except for the 2 junk rooms that I have never tackled. I kept my fingers crossed that she would not look in those rooms, because there was no way I was going to get them cleaned out. They are rooms that we don't use, because they are filled with junk. I kept those doors closed, and she didn't look there. She said my house looked fine. She was impressed with my daughter's nice bedroom. The woman wrote a report saying that our family has many strengths. She recommended that I keep hiring a house cleaner to clean regularly. The problem is that I have been afraid to hire any house cleaner, because I am afraid they will report me to child protective services like the house cleaner with the ammonia did. Or I think she did. But over several months my house has been getting bad again. I tell myself that if I just clean a bit myself and make sure the house is presentable, then I can hire a house cleaner and not be afraid. But I am afraid. So that's where I am. I am working on doing preliminary cleaning so I can hire a house cleaner without fear. It's ironic that I am afraid to hire a house cleaner because I fear they will call child protective services over my house being dirty. Isn't that what a house cleaner is hired to fix?
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bitsy
Posted: 02 October 2014 - 12:39 AM
I was glad to hear your mom talked to your sister and she sent you a note. It is great you are helping your mom but it seemed like you "were in charge"... trying to move too fast for her before she new how much she can trust you. I liked seeing the word "respect".

"and see if there are any books WE can let go of"
the use of we in this sentence is like a parent or teacher talking to a child.
I hope you take it slow and easy... at least at first. your Mom needs you.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 01 October 2014 - 06:22 PM
Wonderful work, everyone! I am so pleased for you.

Received a note from my sister today saying that mom is really anxious. Since I stayed at work nearly 2-1/2 hours late to finish up some reports, I called mom to see if we could reschedule to tomorrow night. I'm perfectly willing to go now but thought instead we could spend some time on the phone, and I could reassure her that we will start with one bookshelf and see if there are any books we can let go of. I did not mention that if heard from my sister. I acted like mom was doing me the favor, and then we discussed her books a little bit. I emphasized that I want her to be able to stay in her place (even though it's assisted living) as long as possible and we need to eliminate the fall hazards. She was pretty cooperative. She did mention her anxiety, so I thought that was good.

I'll keep you posted. Great work, everyone! Tillie I love the smell of Murphy's Oil Soap. Thank you everyone for sharing your stories. We have a great support system here!
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Tillie
Posted: 01 October 2014 - 05:34 PM
HAPPY OCTOBER! :D

All done washing walls & ceiling in the main room.
Kitchen cupboards all washed with Murphy's oil soap. Smells good in here.
Rest of this week I plan to do the other cleaning.
Stuff like wash the furniture with Murphy's, vacuum the couch, wash drapery, wash nick-nacky items and clean the ceiling fan & dining room light fixture.
I am so happy that the hardest job is all done! :D
Tired now, will sleep good tonight.

Hoping you all have had a GREAT day and everything going according to your plans.

TTYL :)
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Mel99
Posted: 30 September 2014 - 11:34 PM
Nice to see everyone's updates! Way to go everyone!

Tatoulia, good luck to you for tomorrow. Be kind is probably the best thing to remember. It'll be hard but just remember that every little bit that gets done is progress, and that we're all here rooting for you (and your mom)!

Last night I did manage to go through two more boxes and get rid of EVERYTHING in them, which was a great feeling. I didn't break down one of the boxes because I have some stuff that one of my friends is interested in so I've packed that stuff into that box to take to her either tomorrow or this weekend. Today I feel like I didn't get as much done as I did yesterday, but I sorted through two armloads of clothes and completely filled a bag of clothes to be donated (including a sweatshirt that has my last name on it that I almost couldn't convince myself to part with) and only kept four pieces (a long sleeved shirt that I use for layering in the winter, a comfortable and pretty sweater I wear to work, a cute and comfy red skirt, and a fancy black blouse. And in typing this I've decided to pack up two of those items into the donation bin!). I also signed up today to rent a 65 gallon garbage can and 65 gallon recyclable can. they'll deliver it next tuesday, and my garbage day is Wednesday so that's perfect timing. I also did work late today and I went to the gym and worked out and had a nice shower. Wednesdays I go see my sweetheart after work so I most likely won't get anything done, but I will at least put my garbage and recyclables out.

I took Friday off work and have a mammogram scheduled for the afternoon so I'm going to try to spend the morning sorting through my enormous clothing pile. I'm hopeful I can make good progress on it. It will definitely help make my second bedroom easier to sort through if I can get the excess clothes out of there.

Have a great Wednesday everyone!
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Tillie
Posted: 30 September 2014 - 10:07 PM
Hi :)

Looks like we have all been pretty busy.
WAY TO GO!!!! :D

Well, today I finished the living room area and then did all the dining room area.
Then I got the kitchen area all ready to do tomorrow.
Since the living room area, dining room area and kitchen area are all in the same room, it will be nice when every area of wall and ceiling are all washed.

Also got the usual daily stuff done.
Laundry, dishes and cat related tasks.
Been taking my time washing the walls and ceiling. Haven't been bothering to do any other type of cleaning in these areas because I plan to do that afterwards.

In doing all this cleaning I have only found three small spiders, Scooter ate them for me.
But absolutely no other types of bugs. :D

Diane, have a great time at work tomorrow. :D
Tatoulia, good luck and best wishes. :D
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Tatoulia
Posted: 30 September 2014 - 09:08 PM
What a lovely post, Diane. I honestly don't know how you do what you do--so much labor! Ah the first really cold night --stay warm and enjoy the air.

Always happy to hear from each of you. Have a wonderful night.

Ps I hadn't realized that I repeated myself re mom's condition. Thank you all for your support. I will be there tomorrow night, after work. My boyfriend has boxes for me and I will get to work once mom is done with her dinner. I need to remind myself to Be Kind. Be Kind. Be Kind. Kindness is all we need.
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Diane
Posted: 30 September 2014 - 08:16 PM
Tat thanks for telling us all that is going on with you and mom. I did not see my mom as a hoarder until I had to empty her apartment. Just saw her as messy. I support you and your kindness to your mom. Tillie, you are such a good girl, eating well, taking breaks while working.
I woke up too early again today. Got up, finished scraping steps, got up on roof, cleaned chimney with chimney brush, then cleaned out the stove. Washed dishes. Watered bushes, then took a shower, washed hair and went to work. Been reading my medicare book that came in mail today.
I have no energy left, darn, really want to get more done, maybe will get second wind tonight.
Get to work with a friend tomorrow, looking forward to that, we have a 45 minute drive to another town, so will get to catch up on her trip to coast this weekend. Will work at a bank and a lumber mill tomorrow, so will be lots of fun. Today went to 2 companies that have the happiest employees, with good friendships, I never had that at my jobs, always focused on work, not friendships, so today realized how lucky I am to work tomorrow with a friend. Today I was more open to befriending the person I worked with, need to be more accepting of people that have different values.
Going to be under freezing tonight so that motivated me to clean stove, now will make a warm fire in wood stove. Want to clean out a teapot that I put on stove, increases humidity in here plus can have tea whenever I want, also so fun to cook soup on wood stove.
Fire starter is signing off.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 30 September 2014 - 04:17 PM
Tillie that sounds like hard work--congratulations on the deep cleaning. Good to hear from Mel and Jar. Jar, I can't go to anyplace with vintage stuff right now. I do not miss digging for treasures--the treasures just became too much for me and I feel like I've od'd on it.

I was up at 3:00 this AM worrying about where to start on my mother's place. I spoke with her last night to give her a pep talk. I keep telling her that it breaks my heart to see how she's living. Again, I knew it was messy but I didn't ever really see it before. She has one tiny little area to sit and eat, and she's jammed up against an overflowing bookcase filled with books, junk, magazines, all of which are just waiting to topple on to her. It's a mess. And I know it's going to be a struggle but it will be worth it.

Tomorrow's the night. All suggestions gladly accepted. I actually thought I'd start on the overflowing bookcase by the bathroom first because it looks like it has fewer Things That Must Stay and it will be good practice to get rid of stuff.

Regards to all.
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Jar Lady
Posted: 30 September 2014 - 07:15 AM
Hi Tat, and thanks!! :) I knew there was someone else here who had a love for vintage things, but I couldn't remember who.

I used to have a lot of home decor items, and a few years ago I removed a lot of them from around the house, and stored them in boxes. From there, I gradually sold/donated some of them. At present, I am trying to keep just the favorites...some on display, and some still stored in boxes, for when I'm in the mood to switch things up for a new look (this way, I can keep decor looking "fresh", without shopping for new stuff.)

I still buy vintage things at garage sales/thrift stores, but try to limit these shopping expeditions...because honestly I cannot handle the anxiety in trying to decide what to buy and what to leave behind...I'm like a scared rabbit...I stand there shaking, with heart palpitations, and sweaty palms...picking stuff up off the shelf, and putting it back down...I must look like a total idiot in there...LOL.

Hi there, Mel! I sell most of my stuff through an online buy/sell site. If it doesn't sell within 1-2 weeks, I re-list it and lower the price. Sometimes I have regrets...when the customer is all happy and excited to receive my stuff, I start thinking whoa, if it's that great, maybe I should keep it?!?!?
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Mel99
Posted: 29 September 2014 - 09:49 PM
Hi all, and happy Monday!

It's such a good feeling to accomplish something even if it's not "huge" in the scheme of things. Every little bit helps. Tillie, I love the idea of the washed walls. This gives me something new to put on my mental list of things I can do around the house.

Tatoulia, lots of support to you. I'm glad that it sounds like your mom is willing to 'make a deal' to get some stuff out.

Those of you who have sold stuff... How did it go for you? If it didn't sell, did you re-list it? Did you have a hard time sending it off once it was sold?

I'm trying to hold myself accountable to doing at least a little something every day. Today I cleaned the bathroom sink and the toilet, and hung up a bunch of clothes that I washed on Friday. I'm currently relaxing but I think in a little while I'm going to grab two boxes from the other bedroom and sort through them. My favorite feeling is when I get everything out of a box and i can break down the box and put it in my recycling bin. I sold Avon for a while so I have tons and tons of Avon boxes all over the place (all filled with stuff, of course).

Sometimes I just want to take everything, all of my stuff, and throw it into a garbage bag, but i'm so paranoid that I'll throw away something important or something that someone can use to commit identity theft. But the idea of just stuffing everything into garbage bags until it's all gone is extremely tempting.

It does occur to me that once I get rid of all of the excess paper and trash and get some things given away and/or donated... i'm still going to have too much stuff and I'm still going to need to work on that. If I think too much about it I get overwhelmed.

I hope we all have wonderful Tuesdays!
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Tillie
Posted: 29 September 2014 - 05:45 PM
Hello :)

Got up this morning, ate breakfast, yogurt & a banana. Drank my tea.
Then at 9:00 I got busy washing walls and ceiling in the living room area.
Took my time, didn't rush.
Took lots of little breaks, ate lunch.
Quit working at 1:00. Because I promised Diane that I would take it easy & not push myself. :)
Have only one corner area and the ceiling over it to finish washing.
But that can wait until tomorrow.
I took a shower & washed my hair and have been sitting resting and enjoying the view of my freshly washed living room.
Tomorrow I will finish that one area and then start on the dining room.
And yes Diane, I again promise not to push myself too hard. :D
I am really enjoying this feeling of accomplishment for a job well done.

Hope you all are having a good day today too. :)
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Tatoulia
Posted: 29 September 2014 - 11:06 AM
Hi Jar Lady! The color scheme sounds really pretty. I too love vintage items, which I have been working in to get rid of. I love them all, and have significantly pared down my collection. One thing I did is I tried to keep representative pieces rather than all of them. I also was able to let some things go by saying "I loved them enough." I ended up donating my items because I was afraid that 'selling on eBay' would end up being, for me, code for 'let's continue to keep'. I applaud you and LR for finding a way to sell your items! That makes me very happy, even though I can't do it myself.
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Jar Lady
Posted: 29 September 2014 - 10:31 AM
Hello everyone! I plan to do more fall cleaning today, and also want to rearrange my spare room. I have a lot of pretty vintage items stored in boxes, which I want to pull out to change the look of the room.....trying to work with a white/pale yellow color scheme.

Hey LR! I'm glad to see you decided to try selling some of you stuff! WTG! Will you be using Craigslist? If you need advice on wording, photographs, pricing, or whatever, let me know (I have lots of experience).

Hugs to all, now let's take on the day!
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Tatoulia
Posted: 29 September 2014 - 09:12 AM
Thank you LR for the suggestion. Last night I stopped by mom's and was there til about 11. We talked about all sorts of things including reducing her items. It is so shocking to realize she has one little area on her dining table where she can eat her breakfast. And the chair is jammed against a bookshelf that is piled beyond its capacity. It is uncomfortable and packed and poised to fall. We talked about reducing books and what it's going to take for her to agree to get rid of some of them. I mentioned sample titles to get a feel for the level of difficulty in getting rid of books. I also made the suggestion that we get her 3 stuffed bookshelves down to one, meaning she can keep one third of her book hoard. I will go over Tuesday or Wednesday night and start the process

I could tell she has opened her eyes a sliver because she did say if she ends up in a wheelchair, it would never fit.

We have made a deal that if she lets me take out six boxes of stuff, I will take her to a specific place she wants to go.

This will not go easy but i will be starting this week. Digging Out looks like a particularly good book because it appears to be addressing exactly what I am addressing, an elderly hoarder who has safety/fall/balance issues.

Oh and I told her last night that she's done it 'her way' got the last 10 years in her place and we are doing the next 10 my way--goodbye clutter.

Thank you for your support. This is going to be a toughie. When I cleaned out the trash hoarder's place, it was emotionally easy because he just let me do it without a fight. Of course it took a terrible toll on me, seeing how he lived. But it brought me here to deal with all my stuff.
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LR2014
Posted: 29 September 2014 - 08:41 AM
Diane, I'm sorry about that wreck that was near you. It really upsets me when those sorts of things happen. Yea for laundry, dishes, and for having some fun. (I also relate to things getting cleaned up after spills, such as the inside of my refrigerator.)

Tillie, yea for the rain!

Tatoulia, many hugs as you deal with the situation with your mom and your feelings about it. If you don't have the book called Digging Out, I would encourage you to get it. It will help you as you try to work with your mom on this issue.

Me: For part of my goals for the day, I plan to spend 30 minutes looking for items I can sell. I've already set aside a few give-away and recycle items.

Hugs to everybody!
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Tatoulia
Posted: 28 September 2014 - 07:11 PM
Nice to hear from everyone. Have a lot going on but wanted to take a minute to say hello. Diane, enjoyed the fact that you reacted to your spills with humor. Good to keep moving forward! As to having a job and dealing with hoard, I'm not sure that anything makes dealing with a hoard any easier OR any harder, it's just hard no matter what. I don't think my situation would've been any different if I only worked part time.

Ok, I realized something about two weeks ago and I've been upset ever since. My mother, who lives in assisted living and is walking distance from my house, is a hoarder. I knew she had messy issues and I recall how difficult it was to get her to let go of stuff when she sold her place(10 years ago). I just hadn't realized she's a hoarder until about two weeks ago and I was upset. There is stuff piled everywhere. Now, I see my mother all the time but I guess I never really noticed it. We had a very difficult discussion that night and mainly she's in denial. I have now convinced her to let me come over and clear out her place. She has worked through her anger at me and I've agreed to hold things up one at a time and let her decide without a fight from me. We will hopefully start Tuesday night since it promises to be cooler and I really need cool weather to be in her sticky, packed place. I also will have access to boxes on Tuesday night.

This has been very, very upsetting for me to open my eyes. I am very upset that I never noticed. I just thought she was a slob. She cannot open her closets, there is stuff everywhere.

I know I don't have to ask for strength. I know I will find it here.
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Diane
Posted: 27 September 2014 - 10:26 PM
Hi T&T, nice hearing how life is for you. Rain is so great to clear the smoke, happy for you T.
I worked until 6pm last night then to Costco, then on way home, had to slam on breaks, fatal accident in front of me, took a long time to get home. So today I washed dishes then painted some stuff for my relaxation. Then decided to take deck umbrella down, knocked over paint on deck, what a mess, fun cleaning it up, slapping it on a board. It was can of red hi gloss enamel, so was funny on my newly painted deck (from this summer) I also knocked over the cup of water with paint brush from earlier this morning. It was on kitchen counter. Seems I have to knock something over on counter to motivate me to clean it. I made a fire in wood stove, cool day. One load of laundry, still on line.
Today I was thinking how much harder it is to work on hoard while working, thinking of people on here with real jobs, not easy, happy my job is only 2 months.
Tomorrow I plan to cook some soup, vacuum.
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Tillie
Posted: 27 September 2014 - 06:30 PM
Thank you Tatoulia and my cats thank you too. :)

Still raining here! :D
Went into town, shopping, and almost everybody is in a GREAT mood because of all this wonderful rain.
Sun has not shone at all today and that makes it cold, 40s to 50s but that's just fine too. :)
Splurged on some mini candy bars, Snickers.
They will come in handy when the chocolate cravings strike.
When we came home Scooter ran out the door and then ran right back in. LOL
He hates getting wet. :D

So, what have you all been up to?
Missing reading about your days.
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Tatoulia
Posted: 27 September 2014 - 10:46 AM
Tillie I've been praying for better weather/clearer air for you! And of course my cat has been praying for Marty and Scooter!

Much love--I must say that everyone's Autumn clean up plans and winter preparations are very inspiring! Thank you all for your stories!
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Tillie
Posted: 27 September 2014 - 10:05 AM
WAY TO GO!!! Tatoulia :)
For keeping up with the maintenance.
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Tillie
Posted: 27 September 2014 - 10:03 AM
Started raining at 10:45 last night and is still going on!!!!! :D

HAPPY DANCE!:D
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Tatoulia
Posted: 27 September 2014 - 05:58 AM
So happy to have time his morning to catch up on everyone's posts. You are all doing great! Busy week for me but kept up with basics--all dishes done and our away, kitchen counters clear and clean, all laundry done and put away.

Will write more later. Stay well, keep up the good work, and I'm so glad you are all here!
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Tillie
Posted: 26 September 2014 - 05:04 PM
LOL!!!
The garage is stuffed floor to rafters, with a narrow goat path down the center.
No way I could possibly maneuver through everything to find it.
He would be furious when the credit card bill came and he saw that I bought insulation, when he already has insulation in the hoard, somewhere.

My chili turned out fantastic!
I have 3 days worth in the fridge to eat now and 3 one gallon ziplock baggies 2/3 filled of it in the freezer to eat later.
I love having home cooked meals in the freezer all ready to eat.
Keeps me from nibbling on nonsense when I am hungry and no time or inclination to cook.

I also made a big double batch of corn bread and wrapped & froze a lot of that too.
Goes so well with the chili. :)
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Dianne
Posted: 26 September 2014 - 04:47 PM
Thank you LR, I am feeling better. Today was restful and more vitamin C should knock things out soon.

Tillie, your bison chili sounds yummy! Can you order some insulation online? Or while he's at work can you look in an area where he may have put what you need?
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Tillie
Posted: 26 September 2014 - 01:31 PM
Hi :)

Got a good night's sleep last night so woke up with energy and motivation.
Temperatures have dipped over night into the low 40s.
Winter comes early at the higher elevations.

Started a huge pot of chili soon as I got up.
Special chili, made with ground bison! :D
Smells so wonderful simmering on the burner.

Just did an inventory of my cold/flu supplies.
Have everything I would need except fresh lemons which should be easy enough to get should/when I need them.

Have my & the cat's winter bed linens all ready.
Quilts, comforters, flannel sheets, afghans, blankets.

Have enough winter clothes all ready.
Jeans, warm tops, socks, flannel night gowns, shoes/boots, coats, gloves, hats.

I need window & door insulation.
Scooter (the cat) has removed what I already had in place on the two doors and one window.
My hoarder won't let me buy any because he says he already has lots of it, somewhere.
He can not find it in his hoarded garage.
This is so frustrating and always happens.

WAY TO GO!!! everybody for all your accomplishments! :D
Even if you have just been doing the mental work of processing through all your emotions and thoughts.
This process is very important to getting you to where you want to be and keeping you on the right tract.

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LR2014
Posted: 26 September 2014 - 11:40 AM
Dianne: I'm so sorry you're feeling ill. I do hope you feel much better soon!

Mel99: I hope you find the source of the odor. It's great that you got rid of a lot of things in there while trying to find it! Way to go!

On the Sunday night chat, I mentioned that the next area I want to work on (with more concentrated effort) is my living room. Well, yesterday in the middle of the day (when I was present), my "main" TV set (the one in the living room) died. Perfect timing! Now I can take it (and a few other things) to be recycled. Getting it out of the way will allow me to more easily access other things in that living room that I need to deal with. I don't plan to buy a replacement TV right now. Have a very small one that I can use if I "need one."

Hugs to everybody.
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